iPhone 6

[Blown2CV]

viggyp said:

Ok, I've noticed some people are having issues connecting their iPhone 6's via bluetooth to their car stereo's and headsets.......and I'm having a similar problem which is driving me up the wall. The problems below have happened with iOS 8 and 8.0.2. Apologies in advance for the dull post.

I'm no tech-head but how complex is bluetooth technically?

With my "5" it paired to my Kenwood stereo and Plantronics headset easily. To connect to the stereo, all I had to do was press the button with the phone icon. This button would give me access to my phonebook and I could start and end a call also.

First thing, the "6" pairs with my headset and I can hear everything but cannot end a call with the headset, only the phone?!

With my car strereo the "6" pairs and plays music via bluetooth but It's trying to sort out the phone part which is driving me nuts.

To start a call I now have to press the volume knob on the stereo but cannot end a call from it as it puts the call on hold and dials the previous number which I contacted. Again, I have to end a call via the phone meaning the "phone" icon button on the stereo is now rendered useless. No ringtone or voices are coming through the car speakers.

Anyone else having the above problems??

bluetooth is just a communication protocol, the issues usually arise from the services that the device exposes through bluetooth. For some reason it's a case of reinventing the wheel each and every time. I have no idea why there are no standards emerging for common things done using bluetooth (or other such protocols that may emerge in future) that dictate how e.g. making a call, list of contacts, call history, voice control and so on should work, so that they're compatible across whomever implements the standard. It's not as if bluetooth is new!

[viggyp]

Blown2CV said:

viggyp said:

Ok, I've noticed some people are having issues connecting their iPhone 6's via bluetooth to their car stereo's and headsets.......and I'm having a similar problem which is driving me up the wall. The problems below have happened with iOS 8 and 8.0.2. Apologies in advance for the dull post.

I'm no tech-head but how complex is bluetooth technically?

With my "5" it paired to my Kenwood stereo and Plantronics headset easily. To connect to the stereo, all I had to do was press the button with the phone icon. This button would give me access to my phonebook and I could start and end a call also.

First thing, the "6" pairs with my headset and I can hear everything but cannot end a call with the headset, only the phone?!

With my car strereo the "6" pairs and plays music via bluetooth but It's trying to sort out the phone part which is driving me nuts.

To start a call I now have to press the volume knob on the stereo but cannot end a call from it as it puts the call on hold and dials the previous number which I contacted. Again, I have to end a call via the phone meaning the "phone" icon button on the stereo is now rendered useless. No ringtone or voices are coming through the car speakers.

Anyone else having the above problems??

bluetooth is just a communication protocol, the issues usually arise from the services that the device exposes through bluetooth. For some reason it's a case of reinventing the wheel each and every time. I have no idea why there are no standards emerging for common things done using bluetooth (or other such protocols that may emerge in future) that dictate how e.g. making a call, list of contacts, call history, voice control and so on should work, so that they're compatible across whomever implements the standard. It's not as if bluetooth is new!

See, that's what I thought. Spoke to people at Halfords and they say it's the iPhone software then spoke to Apple and they said it's the headset and stereo stating they may not be compatible with the phone!

The items are 6-8 months old. If that's the case then I'll need to replace the stereo every iPhone upgrade. What a joke!

[Blown2CV]

viggyp said:

Blown2CV said:

viggyp said:

Ok, I've noticed some people are having issues connecting their iPhone 6's via bluetooth to their car stereo's and headsets.......and I'm having a similar problem which is driving me up the wall. The problems below have happened with iOS 8 and 8.0.2. Apologies in advance for the dull post.

I'm no tech-head but how complex is bluetooth technically?

With my "5" it paired to my Kenwood stereo and Plantronics headset easily. To connect to the stereo, all I had to do was press the button with the phone icon. This button would give me access to my phonebook and I could start and end a call also.

First thing, the "6" pairs with my headset and I can hear everything but cannot end a call with the headset, only the phone?!

With my car strereo the "6" pairs and plays music via bluetooth but It's trying to sort out the phone part which is driving me nuts.

To start a call I now have to press the volume knob on the stereo but cannot end a call from it as it puts the call on hold and dials the previous number which I contacted. Again, I have to end a call via the phone meaning the "phone" icon button on the stereo is now rendered useless. No ringtone or voices are coming through the car speakers.

Anyone else having the above problems??

bluetooth is just a communication protocol, the issues usually arise from the services that the device exposes through bluetooth. For some reason it's a case of reinventing the wheel each and every time. I have no idea why there are no standards emerging for common things done using bluetooth (or other such protocols that may emerge in future) that dictate how e.g. making a call, list of contacts, call history, voice control and so on should work, so that they're compatible across whomever implements the standard. It's not as if bluetooth is new!

See, that's what I thought. Spoke to people at Halfords and they say it's the iPhone software then spoke to Apple and they said it's the headset and stereo stating they may not be compatible with the phone!

The items are 6-8 months old. If that's the case then I'll need to replace the stereo every iPhone upgrade. What a joke!

annoyingly, it's luck of the draw. My VW works just fine with the iPhone 6, but i am sure there are plenty of cars, stereos, etc where it doesn't work properly.

[oobster]

Chaps - currently waiting on Tesco mobile swapping my SIM, but can I turn my 6 on & download all my purchases, settings, contact etc from the cloud when it doesn't have a mobile signal (i.e. using Wifi) and while my 4S is still switched on?

[fandango_c]

viggyp said:

Ok, I've noticed some people are having issues connecting their iPhone 6's via bluetooth to their car stereo's and headsets.......and I'm having a similar problem which is driving me up the wall. The problems below have happened with iOS 8 and 8.0.2. Apologies in advance for the dull post.

I'm no tech-head but how complex is bluetooth technically?

With my "5" it paired to my Kenwood stereo and Plantronics headset easily. To connect to the stereo, all I had to do was press the button with the phone icon. This button would give me access to my phonebook and I could start and end a call also.

First thing, the "6" pairs with my headset and I can hear everything but cannot end a call with the headset, only the phone?!

With my car strereo the "6" pairs and plays music via bluetooth but It's trying to sort out the phone part which is driving me nuts.

To start a call I now have to press the volume knob on the stereo but cannot end a call from it as it puts the call on hold and dials the previous number which I contacted. Again, I have to end a call via the phone meaning the "phone" icon button on the stereo is now rendered useless. No ringtone or voices are coming through the car speakers.

Anyone else having the above problems??

This guy was having similar problems, might be of use to you?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Jon1967x]

SpecialBranch said:

oobster said:

Chaps - currently waiting on Tesco mobile swapping my SIM, but can I turn my 6 on & download all my purchases, settings, contact etc from the cloud when it doesn't have a mobile signal (i.e. using Wifi) and while my 4S is still switched on?

I'm not sure you can. The phone asks for a SIM card during setup.

Yes you can (I assume you have a new smaller sim for your 6 actually in the phone and you're waiting for the network to switch to it?)

You need to connect to itunes anyway for your phone to unlock itself and do its business.

[viggyp]

fandango_c said:

viggyp said:

Ok, I've noticed some people are having issues connecting their iPhone 6's via bluetooth to their car stereo's and headsets.......and I'm having a similar problem which is driving me up the wall. The problems below have happened with iOS 8 and 8.0.2. Apologies in advance for the dull post.

I'm no tech-head but how complex is bluetooth technically?

With my "5" it paired to my Kenwood stereo and Plantronics headset easily. To connect to the stereo, all I had to do was press the button with the phone icon. This button would give me access to my phonebook and I could start and end a call also.

First thing, the "6" pairs with my headset and I can hear everything but cannot end a call with the headset, only the phone?!

With my car strereo the "6" pairs and plays music via bluetooth but It's trying to sort out the phone part which is driving me nuts.

To start a call I now have to press the volume knob on the stereo but cannot end a call from it as it puts the call on hold and dials the previous number which I contacted. Again, I have to end a call via the phone meaning the "phone" icon button on the stereo is now rendered useless. No ringtone or voices are coming through the car speakers.

Anyone else having the above problems??

This guy was having similar problems, might be of use to you?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Cheers bud but I've tried everything on here except deleting the phone details from the stereo which I've no idea how to do. Hope something gets sorted out soon.

[oobster]

Jon1967x said:

SpecialBranch said:

oobster said:

Chaps - currently waiting on Tesco mobile swapping my SIM, but can I turn my 6 on & download all my purchases, settings, contact etc from the cloud when it doesn't have a mobile signal (i.e. using Wifi) and while my 4S is still switched on?

I'm not sure you can. The phone asks for a SIM card during setup.

Yes you can (I assume you have a new smaller sim for your 6 actually in the phone and you're waiting for the network to switch to it?)

You need to connect to itunes anyway for your phone to unlock itself and do its business.

Yes got the nano sim in the new 6, haven't switched the 6 on yet. Asked Tesco mobile to swap at their end 6 and half hours ago, they said it could take 24 hours, I admit I am not very patient, want to get the new 6 on and setup!

[marctwo]

oobster said:

Yes got the nano sim in the new 6, haven't switched the 6 on yet. Asked Tesco mobile to swap at their end 6 and half hours ago, they said it could take 24 hours, I admit I am not very patient, want to get the new 6 on and setup!

I did this with MrsTwo's 6+. As long as there is a sim inserted and you can connect to wifi you can set it up.

[MrCheese]

Bbunter said:

oobster said:

I should be picking up a 6+ in the next couple of hours.

Good choice. I'm using my 6+ now. I've gotten over the initial 'what have I done' thing, and I am liking it a lot. It's a cracking bit of kit.

I've got the 6+ and the "what have I done" comment is spot on - I'm 50/50 on the handset - the features of the phone, particularly the camera are fantastic but I must admit I'm struggling with the size. I cycle (a bit) and I'm wondering what I will do in summer when I'm wearing shorts/t-shirt. It just doesn't seem to fit in any clothes I have. Mind you, when I compared it to the normal 6 that didn't seem to fit comfortably in pockets easily either...

[Jon1967x]

oobster said:

Jon1967x said:

SpecialBranch said:

oobster said:

Chaps - currently waiting on Tesco mobile swapping my SIM, but can I turn my 6 on & download all my purchases, settings, contact etc from the cloud when it doesn't have a mobile signal (i.e. using Wifi) and while my 4S is still switched on?

I'm not sure you can. The phone asks for a SIM card during setup.

Yes you can (I assume you have a new smaller sim for your 6 actually in the phone and you're waiting for the network to switch to it?)

You need to connect to itunes anyway for your phone to unlock itself and do its business.

Yes got the nano sim in the new 6, haven't switched the 6 on yet. Asked Tesco mobile to swap at their end 6 and half hours ago, they said it could take 24 hours, I admit I am not very patient, want to get the new 6 on and setup!

I had to do the same with O2 - they say up to 24 hours, it took 20 mins. You do have to turn it on and off every now and then.

[Bbunter]

Jon1967x said:

I had to do the same with O2 - they say up to 24 hours, it took 20 mins. You do have to turn it on and off every now and then.

Switch it into airplane mode, then back. It has the same effect, saves time dicking around switching the phone on and off.

[Rawwr]

MrCheese said:

I've got the 6+ and the "what have I done" comment is spot on - I'm 50/50 on the handset - the features of the phone, particularly the camera are fantastic but I must admit I'm struggling with the size. I cycle (a bit) and I'm wondering what I will do in summer when I'm wearing shorts/t-shirt. It just doesn't seem to fit in any clothes I have. Mind you, when I compared it to the normal 6 that didn't seem to fit comfortably in pockets easily either...

Just out of curiosity - and please don't take this the wrong way but - why did you buy it? Was it a blind purchase?

[Bbunter]

MrCheese said:

I've got the 6+ and the "what have I done" comment is spot on - I'm 50/50 on the handset - the features of the phone, particularly the camera are fantastic but I must admit I'm struggling with the size. I cycle (a bit) and I'm wondering what I will do in summer when I'm wearing shorts/t-shirt. It just doesn't seem to fit in any clothes I have. Mind you, when I compared it to the normal 6 that didn't seem to fit comfortably in pockets easily either...

For cycling,I've got myself a 'cross body tablet bag' with the stickers I was collecting from Tesco. It's got a padded compartment inside which holds a tablet, or my phone, and keeps it away from the other kit in the main compartment. There's enough room for tubes, a gas pump, tyre levers, and a mini tool kit in the main bag. It's a good solution, for me anyway.

[ZesPak]

Rawwr said:

MrCheese said:

I've got the 6+ and the "what have I done" comment is spot on - I'm 50/50 on the handset - the features of the phone, particularly the camera are fantastic but I must admit I'm struggling with the size. I cycle (a bit) and I'm wondering what I will do in summer when I'm wearing shorts/t-shirt. It just doesn't seem to fit in any clothes I have. Mind you, when I compared it to the normal 6 that didn't seem to fit comfortably in pockets easily either...

Just out of curiosity - and please don't take this the wrong way but - why did you buy it? Was it a blind purchase?

The 6+ is a huge phone, but if you're still getting used to it, keep it a while longer.
The jump from the tiny iPhone 4/5 is big, if you're coming from a 5" android for example you'll get used to it a lot faster.

[Blown2CV]

ZesPak said:

Rawwr said:

MrCheese said:

I've got the 6+ and the "what have I done" comment is spot on - I'm 50/50 on the handset - the features of the phone, particularly the camera are fantastic but I must admit I'm struggling with the size. I cycle (a bit) and I'm wondering what I will do in summer when I'm wearing shorts/t-shirt. It just doesn't seem to fit in any clothes I have. Mind you, when I compared it to the normal 6 that didn't seem to fit comfortably in pockets easily either...

Just out of curiosity - and please don't take this the wrong way but - why did you buy it? Was it a blind purchase?

The 6+ is a huge phone, but if you're still getting used to it, keep it a while longer.
The jump from the tiny iPhone 4/5 is big, if you're coming from a 5" android for example you'll get used to it a lot faster.

well i guess unless you want to take a hit then you kind of have to get used to it eh?

[RobM77]

Blown2CV said:

ZesPak said:

Rawwr said:

MrCheese said:

I've got the 6+ and the "what have I done" comment is spot on - I'm 50/50 on the handset - the features of the phone, particularly the camera are fantastic but I must admit I'm struggling with the size. I cycle (a bit) and I'm wondering what I will do in summer when I'm wearing shorts/t-shirt. It just doesn't seem to fit in any clothes I have. Mind you, when I compared it to the normal 6 that didn't seem to fit comfortably in pockets easily either...

Just out of curiosity - and please don't take this the wrong way but - why did you buy it? Was it a blind purchase?

The 6+ is a huge phone, but if you're still getting used to it, keep it a while longer.
The jump from the tiny iPhone 4/5 is big, if you're coming from a 5" android for example you'll get used to it a lot faster.

well i guess unless you want to take a hit then you kind of have to get used to it eh?

Cycling with an iPhone 6, if I get one, will be a problem for me if I buy one, so I'm going to look online for a larger saddlebag. I'd recommend one (to MrCheese) if you're currently putting things in your pockets - they attach underneath the back of your saddle and mine will hold an inner tube, tyre spanners, allen keys, compressed air cannister to inflate a tyre and my iPhone 4S in a case, so really all you need for a few hours on the bike. If I get an iPhone 6 I was hoping to find a bigger one of those, although I'm already at the largest they had in my local bike shop, so I just hope bigger ones are available online. Your other option (if you don't do long rides and need to take two water bottles with you) is to use a drinks bottle for extra carrying capacity (most bikes have two drinks bottle cage attachments on the frame). By doing all of that, you don't have things in your pockets when you're trying to cycle, or in a rucksack/bag, which personally would really annoy me - it's lovely to cycle without a bag or anything in your pockets.

I can't help thinking that, like a lot of modern things (clothes, SUVs etc), the iPhone 6 is designed for the slightly overweight city dwelling person who doesn't really do sports or activities; the cycling is just the start of my problems with the iPhone 6's size, lots more activities are going to need a bit of a re-think to carry a phone that big with me. However, I called into an Apple store on Friday to have a look at the 6 and I like it, so I'm going to have a good old hunt around online to try and make it work with the different sports and activities that I enjoy. It's time well spent trying to make it work, because short of an iPhone Mini, it seems that phones have swelled in size and will stay that way from now on, and I can't run my 4S on iOS 6 forever; as I'm guessing apps with get slower and slower as new versions come out, and stop working on the older iOS, as a few have already.

ETA: If you're interested, I've just started a thread on Pedal Powered asking for ideas or bags that people know fit an iPhone 6 sized phone: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by RobM77 on Monday 29th September 09:25

[Blown2CV]

one word: manbag

[K12beano]

Blown2CV said:

one word: manbag

"Suit you, Sir. Ooo"

[Bbunter]

That's the one I've got, it's brilliant.