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HenryJM said:
Why don't we all just buy the phones we want and marvel at the way that as individuals we all have differences?
Do people do this with other stuff?
Of course they do! Half of this forum is arguments about x vs. y Do people do this with other stuff?
I think the iOS vs. Android argument is a prime example of when there are two extremely good products that do not differ in quality, just detail.
It seems the closer the products are, the more fiercely the argument goes.
The fact is, neither iOS, Android or Windows is a bad choice when looked at objectively. Whichever you buy, you're getting a bloody good product. The only question is whether you like it or not.
durbster said:
HenryJM said:
Why don't we all just buy the phones we want and marvel at the way that as individuals we all have differences?
Do people do this with other stuff?
Of course they do! Half of this forum is arguments about x vs. y Do people do this with other stuff?
I think the iOS vs. Android argument is a prime example of when there are two extremely good products that do not differ in quality, just detail.
It seems the closer the products are, the more fiercely the argument goes.
The fact is, neither iOS, Android or Windows is a bad choice when looked at objectively. Whichever you buy, you're getting a bloody good product. The only question is whether you like it or not.
TheAngryDog said:
AstonZagato said:
I know that if I buy a new iPhone, I can plug it in, put in my iCloud details and it will have my contacts, music, apps, preferences, etc. immediately on the new phone. Everything will work exactly the way I like it.
The embuggeration factor of moving to Android is too high.
Drop box and Google contacts work for Android. I never managed / bothered to back up my music when I had an iPhone, didnt see the point of using up my 5gb of iCloud for it. The embuggeration factor of moving to Android is too high.
If I buy another iPhone, everything I want will be in my new phone with a couple clicks. On the other hand, I suspect that I'd end up spending several hours trying to work out how to achieve the same by moving to Android.
To be clear, I hate this. It effectively means I've locked myself into Apple for the foreseeable future. I don't regard this as a good thing but whilst the Apple devices are in the same ball park as the competition, there is no point fighting against it.
ZesPak said:
spats said:
Gen question for the non iphone users. How the hell do you live with these massive handsets? Ok not all are bigger than the iphone, but all this big screen thing, do you have tardis like pockets or what?
I have stuck so far to the iphone as its size and features and just-workability is all I need, but I've looked at some of the these android phones and they just dont fit in the pocket and thats without any kind of case too.
The iPhone has a pretty poor screen-to-bezel ratio, which means that the phones are big for their respective screen sizes. I have stuck so far to the iphone as its size and features and just-workability is all I need, but I've looked at some of the these android phones and they just dont fit in the pocket and thats without any kind of case too.
I had a 3GS first, then a 4.3" SGS2. The SGS2 was actually slimmer (better shape?) and a lot less noticable in my pocket (had to double check every time). After that I had my biggest phone yet, an Oppo Find 5. It was a heavy bugger (felt heavy) but I actually never had any problems in my pockets (costumes nor jeans). I have a nexus 5 and a 4S now, and the N5 actually is less noticable in the pocket than my 4S due to the shape (sharp edges on the iphone) and weight.
As for the use, I use my phones as GPS and small computers and the 4S is frustrating to use, also due to the small size. If I just needed a phone, yes, I'd probably have a small Nokia/Samsung cheap non-smartphone thing. But for a smartphone that I use mostly as a mini-computer, give me a bigger screen everyday of the week.
People that talk about phone size in your pocket are:
- Women (because of the impossible pockets in their pants)
- People who actually never tried to fit an HTC One/N5/SGS5/...
It's a complete non-issue tbh. iPhone loyalist will echo this in a couple of months.
Edited by ZesPak on Friday 8th August 16:40
Dracoro said:
I'd quite like a smaller iPhone, say 3 icons across by 5 icons deep.
A young guy I know who works I'm a phone shop didn't "get" this, which I suppose is the problem, it seems it's always "bigger is better".
Yes but it seems to me that most people who get a bigger phone never go back, which suggests the idea of a big phone is probably worse than reality.A young guy I know who works I'm a phone shop didn't "get" this, which I suppose is the problem, it seems it's always "bigger is better".
I was worried my phone with a 4.3 inch screen was too big when I got it. It's tiny now
Original Poster said:
Why do Android users constantly try and persuade iPhone users to switch over? I just don't get it.
I have absolutely zero interest in Android based phones therefore I don't waste time reading topics about them, clearly not the case with everyone.
Exactly.I have absolutely zero interest in Android based phones therefore I don't waste time reading topics about them, clearly not the case with everyone.
I used the absolute first Mac in the country in the early 80s (my dad worked for an Apple dealer) and have grown up on Macs, from IIs to SEs, Color Classic, LC475s, Quadras, Performas, Powerbooks, Duo Docks, Centris, Power Mac (inc G3, G4 and G5), Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, even Newton and some Mac Clones. I now have a stable including Macbook Pro, Macbook Air, AppleTV, iPad Mini Retina and iPad Mini and a very very heavy and quick Mac Pro I use for photo editing.
As such it makes perfect sense to have an iPhone, iCloud integrates everything together nicely, iTunes match means if I am out and about and buy an album on my iPhone it is immediately available on AppleTV and my other devices, everything is synced, no messing about.
Here we have a thread about the new iPhone 6 coming out which is full of Android fanboys trying to foist off their preference of Android onto everyone else.
Returning on topic I hope they don't go too big with the 6, I don't want another iPad, I want something about the size of a 5, with a better battery.
TheAngryDog said:
I don't get it. I used to be an iPhone user, but a year with an Android phone and I cannot see me going back. I was on the train from Euston yesterday, 6 people around me with their phones out, all iPhones.
There doesn't seem to be any standout features and it has taken 2 years or so for Apple to "catch up" with the screen size.
You pay a premium for an iPhone over any other phone as well.
Do people buy them because they're hooked on the Apple brand and think they have to have it to be "cool"? Are the people that buy them lacking in originality or are just sheep?
I had an iPhone 4 as there was nothing out at the time that seemed as good. I went to an iPhone 5 stupidly when I shouldve gone to an Android phone.
I know most phones now have the same sort of features, so why pay extra for an iPhone? It doesn't even look good!
because android, for all it's early adopter features, doesn't quite work as well and isn't quite as nice to use. It just doesn't feel finished to me. I have an android work phone and use it as little as i can.There doesn't seem to be any standout features and it has taken 2 years or so for Apple to "catch up" with the screen size.
You pay a premium for an iPhone over any other phone as well.
Do people buy them because they're hooked on the Apple brand and think they have to have it to be "cool"? Are the people that buy them lacking in originality or are just sheep?
I had an iPhone 4 as there was nothing out at the time that seemed as good. I went to an iPhone 5 stupidly when I shouldve gone to an Android phone.
I know most phones now have the same sort of features, so why pay extra for an iPhone? It doesn't even look good!
HenryJM said:
Why don't we all just buy the phones we want and marvel at the way that as individuals we all have differences?
Do people do this with other stuff? Get heated about what trousers other people buy, or what pen? Why get so worked up about what others use for their phone? Why care? You aren't a better or worse person for choosing one over another yet it almost sounds as if some people will disown others if they buy the 'wrong' one.
i've noticed it's always the android dDo people do this with other stuff? Get heated about what trousers other people buy, or what pen? Why get so worked up about what others use for their phone? Why care? You aren't a better or worse person for choosing one over another yet it almost sounds as if some people will disown others if they buy the 'wrong' one.
heads that start it off too, I have no idea why they feel they have to convince iphone users they've made the wrong choice or are in some way stupid/sheep/superficial or whatever. iphone users wouldn't give a st enough about android discussions to dip in and troll them i am sure.onlynik said:
Screen size for one, a proper XBMC remote, a nice browsing experience, widgets, Plume.
fyi, there's an official xbmc remote for iOS https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/official-xbmc-remo....Blown2CV said:
iphone users wouldn't give a st enough about android discussions to dip in and troll them i am sure.
Yes, quite.t enough about android discussions to dip in and troll them i am sure.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=...
Forget the argument of an iPhone over any other phone, that imo is a simplifying the issue.
The real difference is the eco-system, most will already be locked in and so aren't going to suddenly change from Apple to android. This whole business of it just works is true and it's backed up by user satisfaction surveys the iPhone has always beaten android on that metric.
Apple is a hardware and software company and that's why specifically regarding the ecosystem android won't be able to compete. It's disjointed with a whole plethora of hardware makers none of which control the actual software, there simply won't be the same level of interconnectivity that Apple has between its products, android will try but because of all the different hardware it just won't work as well, there's a reason why Samsung is trying to develop Tizen. Ultimately Samsung will end up ditching android if it wants to create the same kind of ecosystem as Apple has.
The last continuity update changed the game to a certain extent if you have one Apple product already your now more likely to get another, same goes with future products there all simply going to fit into that ecosystem. Getting away from the phone argument a bit but take home automation or even talk of Apple developing a payment processing system they will all add to reasons why people will choose Apple over android.
The real difference is the eco-system, most will already be locked in and so aren't going to suddenly change from Apple to android. This whole business of it just works is true and it's backed up by user satisfaction surveys the iPhone has always beaten android on that metric.
Apple is a hardware and software company and that's why specifically regarding the ecosystem android won't be able to compete. It's disjointed with a whole plethora of hardware makers none of which control the actual software, there simply won't be the same level of interconnectivity that Apple has between its products, android will try but because of all the different hardware it just won't work as well, there's a reason why Samsung is trying to develop Tizen. Ultimately Samsung will end up ditching android if it wants to create the same kind of ecosystem as Apple has.
The last continuity update changed the game to a certain extent if you have one Apple product already your now more likely to get another, same goes with future products there all simply going to fit into that ecosystem. Getting away from the phone argument a bit but take home automation or even talk of Apple developing a payment processing system they will all add to reasons why people will choose Apple over android.
TheAngryDog said:
Blown2CV said:
iphone users wouldn't give a st enough about android discussions to dip in and troll them i am sure.
Yes, quite.t enough about android discussions to dip in and troll them i am sure.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=...
king tell people about it, evangelise, tackle the non-believers head-on etc. I'm definitely the former. I couldn't give a fk what phones other people have, they've clearly got their reasons; but equally i don't want someone telling me I've made the wrong choice, because of their reasons. Rather like religion i suppose, in a pathetic way.
Currently torn between the 4.7 and 5.5 screen size. I already have 64gb iPhone 5 so can't go smaller than that for memory size anyway.
Roll on September the 9th so I can get more confused over my choice
if the 5.5 is much better on specs then it will purely be down to how long a wait there is for it actually launching.
Roll on September the 9th so I can get more confused over my choice
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