Samsung Galaxy S5
Discussion
NormalWisdom said:
Fingerprint scanner linked to Paypal, monster camera spec (love the autofocus times), enhanced battery (though I did buy a 4500mh for my S3 and I get 4-5 days use out of it now) - And as for the heart rate sensor - not for me that one ;-)
As was said, a good upgrade from the S3 (which I thought the S4 wasn't)
Monster camera spec? Other than UHD video, it doesn't have any standout features. Still no xenon flash, no OIS.As was said, a good upgrade from the S3 (which I thought the S4 wasn't)
And the HRM "feature" is laughably useless.
clonmult said:
Monster camera spec? Other than UHD video, it doesn't have any standout features.
Fastest autofocussing on a phone, that IMHO is what let's them all down, interesting HDR concepts, Dual image processing (not that I want all that as I use an SLR for the fancy stuff)clonmult said:
Still no xenon flash
OK, so when is a phone not a phone?clonmult said:
no OIS.
Yes it does (assuming you mean Image Stabilisation)clonmult said:
And the HRM "feature" is laughably useless.
Why? It has proven to be very accurate according to early reviewsI just don't understand Samsung:
Samsung: "We listen to our customers" & "People don't want meaningless innovation".
Sounds good.
Customers: "We want a quality built phone (preferably with a metal case) and longer battery life without compromise (i.e. a bigger battery)."
Samsung: "Okay, we hear you. We're not going to do any of those things, but how about a fingerprint scanner, water/dust proofing and A HEART RATE MONITOR!!!"
Customers: "........."
Don't get me wrong, the IP67 rating is pretty cool and it has this super battery saver mode; but it's hardly a step forward. More of a shuffle.
As an S3 owner, this has not convinced me to upgrade to the S5 in two months. The S5 just seems to be aimed at the fitness market, not at the multimedia market.
Samsung: "We listen to our customers" & "People don't want meaningless innovation".
Sounds good.
Customers: "We want a quality built phone (preferably with a metal case) and longer battery life without compromise (i.e. a bigger battery)."
Samsung: "Okay, we hear you. We're not going to do any of those things, but how about a fingerprint scanner, water/dust proofing and A HEART RATE MONITOR!!!"
Customers: "........."
Don't get me wrong, the IP67 rating is pretty cool and it has this super battery saver mode; but it's hardly a step forward. More of a shuffle.
As an S3 owner, this has not convinced me to upgrade to the S5 in two months. The S5 just seems to be aimed at the fitness market, not at the multimedia market.
NormalWisdom said:
clonmult said:
Monster camera spec? Other than UHD video, it doesn't have any standout features.
Fastest autofocussing on a phone, that IMHO is what let's them all down, interesting HDR concepts, Dual image processing (not that I want all that as I use an SLR for the fancy stuff)clonmult said:
Still no xenon flash
OK, so when is a phone not a phone?clonmult said:
no OIS.
Yes it does (assuming you mean Image Stabilisation)clonmult said:
And the HRM "feature" is laughably useless.
Why? It has proven to be very accurate according to early reviewsNow, if it had both xenon and LCD, a decent sized sensor, optical stabilisation ... I'd possibly accept it as having a monster camera, but it doesn't.
What is the usage for this HRM? People performing sports? Taking phone out of its holder, stick finger on sensor, get heart rate. Its nowhere near as practical or useful as a proper HRM strap (be it bluetooth, a garmin, polar, etc.)
Honestly, doesn't seem a patch on the Z2 that was announced earlier in the day. The Z2 has nicer build, better camera, better specs, bigger screen, doesn't have TouchWiz, is more waterproof and has a digital out to hook up to a DAC. The S5 counters with a fingerprint sensor which doesn't work, and a fairly pointless heart rate sensor.
durbster said:
DKS said:
My S2 was on 7 days and 17hrs last night. 20% left.
In regards to innovation I really can't see me replacing my S2 unless it breaks. Screen is more than big enough, and is sharp and clear. It appears to run any game/ app so far and it's very nice to surf, navigate and check mail on. And I like the simple black shape and the plastic makes it light. I guess more advanced, power hungry apps might force my hand.
That's ridiculous battery life. I take it you're running some custom ROM?In regards to innovation I really can't see me replacing my S2 unless it breaks. Screen is more than big enough, and is sharp and clear. It appears to run any game/ app so far and it's very nice to surf, navigate and check mail on. And I like the simple black shape and the plastic makes it light. I guess more advanced, power hungry apps might force my hand.
Have to agree about the S2, it was really miles ahead of its time. I was amused the other day when I noticed that it's still one of the lightest phones around too.
The only time it shows its age is with the camera which is far too slow to launch and snap. Taking photos of the dog is almost impossible.
bodhi said:
Honestly, doesn't seem a patch on the Z2 that was announced earlier in the day. The Z2 has nicer build, better camera, better specs, bigger screen, doesn't have TouchWiz, is more waterproof and has a digital out to hook up to a DAC. The S5 counters with a fingerprint sensor which doesn't work, and a fairly pointless heart rate sensor.
Sony have their own UI overlay that has plenty of widgets and add ons just like touchwizZ2 processor is slower
Z2 doesn't have a removable battery
S5 is more ergonomic, not being poncy but purely practical, look at all the hard edges on the Z2, thats whats going to dig in to your leg when the thing is in your pocket.
S5 can't get much bigger or it infringes on the note market, besides we're talking 5.1" vs 5.2", unless the two were side by side you aren't going to notice.
I don't think either phone is head & shoulders above the other to be honest.
Crafty_ said:
bodhi said:
Honestly, doesn't seem a patch on the Z2 that was announced earlier in the day. The Z2 has nicer build, better camera, better specs, bigger screen, doesn't have TouchWiz, is more waterproof and has a digital out to hook up to a DAC. The S5 counters with a fingerprint sensor which doesn't work, and a fairly pointless heart rate sensor.
Sony have their own UI overlay that has plenty of widgets and add ons just like touchwizZ2 processor is slower
Z2 doesn't have a removable battery
S5 is more ergonomic, not being poncy but purely practical, look at all the hard edges on the Z2, thats whats going to dig in to your leg when the thing is in your pocket.
S5 can't get much bigger or it infringes on the note market, besides we're talking 5.1" vs 5.2", unless the two were side by side you aren't going to notice.
I don't think either phone is head & shoulders above the other to be honest.
Samsung are purely playing the specs game, that is all they ever do. The fingerprint sensor is a gimmick (as it is on the 5S), the HRM is verging on useless. S6 or S7 will include a kitchen sink if they can fit it in.
And that faster processor is going to help in which aspect of phone operation? Same goes to most of these phones, they're all about cramming as much in as possible for no real world benefit.
You really can't tell how a faster processor benefits a smartphone!? Are you blind? 
I love the extra speed my ipad mini retina has, over my ipad2! Everything opens up much more snappily, and that's what I would want from any smartphone upgrade. Currently flipping between a Note 2 and a Nexus 4 and finding the Note annoyingly sluggish at app opening so would therefore welcome a faster processor and experience overall.
I love the extra speed my ipad mini retina has, over my ipad2! Everything opens up much more snappily, and that's what I would want from any smartphone upgrade. Currently flipping between a Note 2 and a Nexus 4 and finding the Note annoyingly sluggish at app opening so would therefore welcome a faster processor and experience overall.
The Beaver King said:
I just don't understand Samsung:
Samsung: "We listen to our customers" & "People don't want meaningless innovation".
Sounds good.
Customers: "We want a quality built phone (preferably with a metal case) and longer battery life without compromise (i.e. a bigger battery)."
Samsung: "Okay, we hear you. We're not going to do any of those things, but how about a fingerprint scanner, water/dust proofing and A HEART RATE MONITOR!!!"
Customers: "........."
Samsung: "We listen to our customers" & "People don't want meaningless innovation".
Sounds good.
Customers: "We want a quality built phone (preferably with a metal case) and longer battery life without compromise (i.e. a bigger battery)."
Samsung: "Okay, we hear you. We're not going to do any of those things, but how about a fingerprint scanner, water/dust proofing and A HEART RATE MONITOR!!!"
Customers: "........."
Crafty_ said:
bodhi said:
Honestly, doesn't seem a patch on the Z2 that was announced earlier in the day. The Z2 has nicer build, better camera, better specs, bigger screen, doesn't have TouchWiz, is more waterproof and has a digital out to hook up to a DAC. The S5 counters with a fingerprint sensor which doesn't work, and a fairly pointless heart rate sensor.
Sony have their own UI overlay that has plenty of widgets and add ons just like touchwizZ2 processor is slower
Z2 doesn't have a removable battery
S5 is more ergonomic, not being poncy but purely practical, look at all the hard edges on the Z2, thats whats going to dig in to your leg when the thing is in your pocket.
S5 can't get much bigger or it infringes on the note market, besides we're talking 5.1" vs 5.2", unless the two were side by side you aren't going to notice.
I don't think either phone is head & shoulders above the other to be honest.
Z2 has 3Gb ram to the S5 2Gb which IMO will have more of an effect than 200MHz of clock speed.
Z2's battery is bigger though 3200mah to 2800mah
Z2 is similar to the Z1 and I haven't had any issues with hard edges digging in.
It boils down to which one you prefer in design as the specs are too close to notice in the real world IMO.
Digger said:
You really can't tell how a faster processor benefits a smartphone!? Are you blind?
I love the extra speed my ipad mini retina has, over my ipad2! Everything opens up much more snappily, and that's what I would want from any smartphone upgrade. Currently flipping between a Note 2 and a Nexus 4 and finding the Note annoyingly sluggish at app opening so would therefore welcome a faster processor and experience overall.
I may be missing the parrot, but ...I love the extra speed my ipad mini retina has, over my ipad2! Everything opens up much more snappily, and that's what I would want from any smartphone upgrade. Currently flipping between a Note 2 and a Nexus 4 and finding the Note annoyingly sluggish at app opening so would therefore welcome a faster processor and experience overall.
The difference in performance between the iPad Mini retina and iPad2 is way bigger than the difference between the Z2 and S5.
If you want to speed up the Note 2, stick on a custom rom. That can give the same effect as a new processor.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Some critics are upset with the lack of 2K or even 4K screens, yet these are battery drains and ultimately we are kidding ourselves if we honestly believe we notice the difference between 1080p and 4k on a 5 inch screen. Processor speeds, having worked with the teams developing various phones I know first hand that processor speed and memory is vitally important. Also how that processor is used.
The mobile world is a world of balance. Consumers want bells and whistles, with a battery that lasts a year, a radio capable of 1Gb/sec and a fold out jet pack hover board. Others will request a more robust phone, IP67 being the case. But the reality, we represent a small portion of the smartphone buying world. The US (home of the most vocal critics) represents just 5% of the smartphone market. The UK even less. So maybe the Asian market, or South American, or African have been asking for some of these features. Or maybe it wasn't possible to get the balance of power and battery right with an octocore processor.
The world is stuff full of mobile device experts, most of whom have no real experience of the global market past a trip to Carphone Warehouse and the insightful ramblings of 'Boy Genius' and his latest sponsored review.
I like most of the features offered by the S5, I hope to try them soon and see how they work i the real world. I have yet to have hands on so cant comment on the construction.
That said, I also like the BlackBerry 10 devices (I'm no longer paid to say this) and the critics on here will slam them too.
Finally, I just don't get the iPhone. Premium materials maybe but that screen only looks good until it cracks.
The mobile world is a world of balance. Consumers want bells and whistles, with a battery that lasts a year, a radio capable of 1Gb/sec and a fold out jet pack hover board. Others will request a more robust phone, IP67 being the case. But the reality, we represent a small portion of the smartphone buying world. The US (home of the most vocal critics) represents just 5% of the smartphone market. The UK even less. So maybe the Asian market, or South American, or African have been asking for some of these features. Or maybe it wasn't possible to get the balance of power and battery right with an octocore processor.
The world is stuff full of mobile device experts, most of whom have no real experience of the global market past a trip to Carphone Warehouse and the insightful ramblings of 'Boy Genius' and his latest sponsored review.
I like most of the features offered by the S5, I hope to try them soon and see how they work i the real world. I have yet to have hands on so cant comment on the construction.
That said, I also like the BlackBerry 10 devices (I'm no longer paid to say this) and the critics on here will slam them too.
Finally, I just don't get the iPhone. Premium materials maybe but that screen only looks good until it cracks.
MuffDaddy said:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Some critics are upset with the lack of 2K or even 4K screens, yet these are battery drains and ultimately we are kidding ourselves if we honestly believe we notice the difference between 1080p and 4k on a 5 inch screen. Processor speeds, having worked with the teams developing various phones I know first hand that processor speed and memory is vitally important. Also how that processor is used.
The mobile world is a world of balance. Consumers want bells and whistles, with a battery that lasts a year, a radio capable of 1Gb/sec and a fold out jet pack hover board. Others will request a more robust phone, IP67 being the case. But the reality, we represent a small portion of the smartphone buying world. The US (home of the most vocal critics) represents just 5% of the smartphone market. The UK even less. So maybe the Asian market, or South American, or African have been asking for some of these features. Or maybe it wasn't possible to get the balance of power and battery right with an octocore processor.
The world is stuff full of mobile device experts, most of whom have no real experience of the global market past a trip to Carphone Warehouse and the insightful ramblings of 'Boy Genius' and his latest sponsored review.
I like most of the features offered by the S5, I hope to try them soon and see how they work i the real world. I have yet to have hands on so cant comment on the construction.
That said, I also like the BlackBerry 10 devices (I'm no longer paid to say this) and the critics on here will slam them too.
Finally, I just don't get the iPhone. Premium materials maybe but that screen only looks good until it cracks.
Hear hear The mobile world is a world of balance. Consumers want bells and whistles, with a battery that lasts a year, a radio capable of 1Gb/sec and a fold out jet pack hover board. Others will request a more robust phone, IP67 being the case. But the reality, we represent a small portion of the smartphone buying world. The US (home of the most vocal critics) represents just 5% of the smartphone market. The UK even less. So maybe the Asian market, or South American, or African have been asking for some of these features. Or maybe it wasn't possible to get the balance of power and battery right with an octocore processor.
The world is stuff full of mobile device experts, most of whom have no real experience of the global market past a trip to Carphone Warehouse and the insightful ramblings of 'Boy Genius' and his latest sponsored review.
I like most of the features offered by the S5, I hope to try them soon and see how they work i the real world. I have yet to have hands on so cant comment on the construction.
That said, I also like the BlackBerry 10 devices (I'm no longer paid to say this) and the critics on here will slam them too.
Finally, I just don't get the iPhone. Premium materials maybe but that screen only looks good until it cracks.
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