The 'All New HTC One" (aka the M8)

[Funk]

kooky guy said:

robsa said:

The Jolly Todger said:

I've had an HTC One since release and it is hands down the best phone I've ever had. I'll be picking up the M8 in June unless there is something spectacular out there to make me change course.

As for the camera on the HTC One: In real world situations (i.e. indoors, pubs etc. where most people use these cameras) it makes far more sense to have a lower pixel dense sensor as it will likely allow a far lower ISO and thus less noise. The people using it in good light and comparing 100% crops with higher MP cameras are demonstrating nothing useful about the camera and everything about how stupid they are. I'd like to know what people are doing with their phone cameras that require such high MP? Printing mural sized posters for their houses? 4MP is plenty for 16"x20" sized prints.

At last! Somebody else with a brain. It drives me nuts repeating this ad nauseum to people who just, basically, ignore you. "Yeah, but I heard the HTC One camera's st..."

I disagree. 4Mp means relatively tiny pictures that can't be expanded and cropped regardless of how pretty they look on a tiny screen. 4Mp in this day and age is just hopeless. Even my Desire HD is 6 and that's years old. I really hope they improve this as I was getting quite interested in this phone but this would be a major negative for me.

Very interesting comparison here: http://www.androidcentral.com/megapixels-ultrapixe...

between the One and S4.

On balance, I prefer the pictures from the One if I'm honest. I prefer the wider-angle, the colours are more accurate and in low light it slaughters the Samsung. Oodles of pixels are pointless if the sensor is tiny. I think HTC are on the right path with their approach, people have, to a degree, been brainwashed into a 'more-is-better' mindset when it comes to megapixels which doesn't paint a true picture (excuse the pun).

[RizzoTheRat]

kooky guy said:

I disagree. 4Mp means relatively tiny pictures that can't be expanded and cropped regardless of how pretty they look on a tiny screen. 4Mp in this day and age is just hopeless. Even my Desire HD is 6 and that's years old. I really hope they improve this as I was getting quite interested in this phone but this would be a major negative for me.

Yeah, it's only needed if you want to crop a picture. My PC monitor runs at 1600x1200 which is less than 2MP so personally I'd prefer a low resolution low noise picture to a noisy one at a higher resolution, as I only tend to use my phone camera for closeup snaps and often in poor light.

[Funk]

VEA said:

Funk said:

So, on the shortlist are the new One and the Z2 although the Z2 has a hefty price tag!

Have you seen a price for it?

Stuff said:

UPDATE 25/02/14: The Z2 is now available for pre-order at Sony's site, priced at £600. Clove has it listed for £565, with stock expected in April.

Source: http://www.stuff.tv/sony/sony-xperia-z2/review

Top end of the phone price territory...

[VEA]

Funk said:

Stuff said:

UPDATE 25/02/14: The Z2 is now available for pre-order at Sony's site, priced at £600. Clove has it listed for £565, with stock expected in April.

Source: http://www.stuff.tv/sony/sony-xperia-z2/review

Top end of the phone price territory...

Hmm... that is pricey. I wonder when the networks will announce it/them. I get a good deal through a friend so it will reduce the price but I wonder how much.

[VEA]

Started a new thread for the Sony Z2 to stop diluting this one.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[The Nur]

VEA said:

Started a new thread for the Sony Z2 to stop diluting this one.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Good call.

[Funk]

I want to know how quickly I'll be able to root and install adblocking software on a new phone..!

I lasted 3 days when I got my Nexus 7, the ads drove me nuts.

[Polarbert]

Its made a big difference for me since rooting my devices. The biggest is no stupid adverts on the youtube app. They always seemed to be coming up before. Hopefully ad away will be able to eradicate the facebook video ads in the newsfeed when they roll those out.

[Funk]

I've been pushed past "tolerating" adverts into "right - fk 'em". They've become too intrusive and I don't recall ever having clicked something as a result of an advert appearing. I'd far rather pay for something and have it ad-free (such as Whatsapp) but sometimes we're not given that option.

[VEA]

Have you tried aviate?

[Funk]

Yep, I have an aviate beta. Doesn't block in-app or in-browser ads though?

[VEA]

Funk said:

Yep, I have an aviate beta. Doesn't block in-app or in-browser ads though?

Nope entirely unrelated. Was just wondering.

[Funk]

VEA said:

Funk said:

Yep, I have an aviate beta. Doesn't block in-app or in-browser ads though?

Nope entirely unrelated. Was just wondering.

Ah, I did wonder what the correlation was!

I liked Aviate but preferred the Sense UI overall fwiw. Would you like an invite to Aviate?

[VEA]

Funk said:

Ah, I did wonder what the correlation was!

I liked Aviate but preferred the Sense UI overall fwiw. Would you like an invite to Aviate?

I use it, have been for quite a while now. I prefer it I think.

[Funk]

New One brochure leaked:



Also has 'Double-Tap' feature to wake the phone, similar to 'Knock-On' from LG.


Display: 5.0-inch full HD (1920x1080p) with pixel density close to 440 ppi (pixels per inch) also boasts scratch-resistant sheet on top

OS: Android v4.4 KitKat OS with custom UI Sense v6.0

Processor: 2.3GHz Snapdragon 800 series quad-core processor or the new Snapdragon 801 series chipset which can top CPU speed up to 2.5GHz (seems it'll be the 801...)

RAM: Minimum 2GB

Storage capacity: Expected to come in 16GB,32GB/64GB

Camera: Main: UltraPixel main camera with smaller camera on top to enhance field of depth when the device is focused on an object, supports Dual-Led flash

Front: 4.0-megapixel camera

Battery: Around 3000 mAh or more (I've seen other rumours of 2800mAh and suspect this is closer to the truth)

Add-ons: Knock On gesture-control feature, BoomSound speakers, microSD card slot, Wi-Fi (802.11 a/b/g/n/ ac)

Colours: Gold, Silver and Grey

Apparently it's surpassed the Note 3 on benchmarking:



Close up of the cameras from @evleaks:

Edited by Funk on Wednesday 12th March 18:17

[TheAngryDog]

looks promising..

How does it compare to the Sony Z2?

[Funk]

If the specs are genuine on the benchmark, it looks like it'll give the Z2 a bloody nose.

However, the only thing we know for certain is that we don't know yet..

[TheAngryDog]

Funk said:

If the specs are genuine on the benchmark, it looks like it'll give the Z2 a bloody nose.

However, the only thing we know for certain is that we don't know yet..

This poses me a slight ponder, as I am going off my HTC One quite quickly, but the "M8" looks like it could sway me back. I love the look of the Z2 though....

[Crafty_]

Funk said:

Add-ons: Knock On gesture-control feature, BoomSound speakers, microSD card slot, Wi-Fi (802.11 a/b/g/n/ ac)

What does add on mean exactly ? region based ?
will UK get the micro SD slot ?

[Funk]

Crafty_ said:

Funk said:

Add-ons: Knock On gesture-control feature, BoomSound speakers, microSD card slot, Wi-Fi (802.11 a/b/g/n/ ac)

What does add on mean exactly ? region based ?
will UK get the micro SD slot ?

I think it's just an 'Other Features' section. I c&p'd it. In that respect, it's likely all New Ones will be the same worldwide with the only variations being 'Google Edition' which is vanilla Android rather than Sense (and based on my experience with the Nexus 7, I quite like it although I do also like Sense). There were two versions of the One X but that was only in the US (we got the nVidia Tegra 3 chip over here, they got the Snapdragon S4 chip in the US on AT&T).

There were a few versions of the One in the Far East, but that's a lot to do with network compatibility etc rather than specs (although the Chinese one did have a removable cover and SD card slot as the internals for their variant took up less space).

I would think that the 'Add ons' section will be accurate for the UK, SD card slot has pretty much been confirmed (and about time too).