Share Your Quadcopter Videos.....
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Here's a short video I did when I first got my DJI P2V+...it's nothing exciting and the shots weren't really thought out. I just wanted a bit of footage to edit together. It then turned out my Macbook struggles a bit with it so gave up until I've got a proper editing computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFmxKWAvjzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFmxKWAvjzQ
Kozy said:
eharding said:
Air Navigation Order articles 166 and 167 apply, from memory.
This chap was clearly extracting the proverbial, but he's managed to enlighten the Enforcement Branch that there is an entirely new, virtually untapped, revenue stream of muppets happily posting videos which are tantamount to posting a sizeable cheque to the CAA as 'court expenses', in addition to the fine:
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=14&...
If the CAA haven't twigged already that by posting your video to YouTube, and Google sell advertising off the back of it, you're arguably wilfully engaging in Aerial Work...then it won't be long before they do.
...and yes, I have one of these things. Lots of custom designed 3D printed geekery, FPV and soon to be FPA. I also have a PPL. I'm keen not to attract the attention of the Enforcement Branch to my activities in either case.
Do you know anything about the 'permission' required from the CAA for aerial work? I've backed the HEXO project but I don't want to be receiving court orders if I share the videos on Youtube...This chap was clearly extracting the proverbial, but he's managed to enlighten the Enforcement Branch that there is an entirely new, virtually untapped, revenue stream of muppets happily posting videos which are tantamount to posting a sizeable cheque to the CAA as 'court expenses', in addition to the fine:
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=14&...
If the CAA haven't twigged already that by posting your video to YouTube, and Google sell advertising off the back of it, you're arguably wilfully engaging in Aerial Work...then it won't be long before they do.
...and yes, I have one of these things. Lots of custom designed 3D printed geekery, FPV and soon to be FPA. I also have a PPL. I'm keen not to attract the attention of the Enforcement Branch to my activities in either case.
With euro USC you have to produce an operations manual which covers operations of your work and craft then go for a two day course with exam (tested on the rules mentioned above plus reading aeronautical maps and understanding classifications of air space etc) after passing this you book in for a practical test which is to exam your method of risk assessment and ensure that you run a safe operation (its a lot easier than it sounds and only lasts about 30 minutes in total).
After you've completed and passed the above your permission for aerial work application is sent to the CAA. Once you've got that back you can get insured for commercial activities and you're away.
Pricing is as follows
BNUC-S training, exam , and flight test with EURO USC £1200 (might be a bit less now)
CAA permission for aerial work £115 from memory, for a UAV under 7kg, £200ish for 7-20kg UAV
Insurance is about £600 a year fully comp
I think getting in trouble for uploading your own videos to youtube (as long as your channel is not monetised) would be a real stretch providing you're not contravening the ANO 166/167 and CAP 722. I have had discussions on here with a photographer before who owns a photography business and uses a small UAV as an extra but for free (which would still be considered commercial). But for hobby stuff on youtube I wouldn't worry too much, just remember you won't be insured if you hit someone.
As for the chap in the link above that got fined for flying in a nuclear no fly zone he's got to be pretty stupid! Even with a licence you'd need special permission from the CAA to fly there.
ETA As someone said earlier use http://www.skydemonlight.com/ to check classifications of air space you are flying in
Edited by andrewrob on Wednesday 25th June 13:39
Just a mention for this website that I joined up to just for hobby flights.
Membership fee is minimal and it provides you with £5 million public liability insurance cover
Membership fee is minimal and it provides you with £5 million public liability insurance cover
- edit helps if I include the address
andrewrob said:
Permission for aerial work is obtained after getting licenced/approved by Euro USC, or resource UAS group.
With euro USC you have to produce an operations manual which covers operations of your work and craft then go for a two day course with exam (tested on the rules mentioned above plus reading aeronautical maps and understanding classifications of air space etc) after passing this you book in for a practical test which is to exam your method of risk assessment and ensure that you run a safe operation (its a lot easier than it sounds and only lasts about 30 minutes in total).
After you've completed and passed the above your permission for aerial work application is sent to the CAA. Once you've got that back you can get insured for commercial activities and you're away.
Pricing is as follows
BNUC-S training, exam , and flight test with EURO USC £1200 (might be a bit less now)
CAA permission for aerial work £115 from memory, for a UAV under 7kg, £200ish for 7-20kg UAV
Insurance is about £600 a year fully comp
I think getting in trouble for uploading your own videos to youtube (as long as your channel is not monetised) would be a real stretch providing you're not contravening the ANO 166/167 and CAP 722. I have had discussions on here with a photographer before who owns a photography business and uses a small UAV as an extra but for free (which would still be considered commercial). But for hobby stuff on youtube I wouldn't worry too much, just remember you won't be insured if you hit someone.
As for the chap in the link above that got fined for flying in a nuclear no fly zone he's got to be pretty stupid! Even with a licence you'd need special permission from the CAA to fly there.
ETA As someone said earlier use http://www.skydemonlight.com/ to check classifications of air space you are flying in
Hmmm, not worth doing 'legally' then really.With euro USC you have to produce an operations manual which covers operations of your work and craft then go for a two day course with exam (tested on the rules mentioned above plus reading aeronautical maps and understanding classifications of air space etc) after passing this you book in for a practical test which is to exam your method of risk assessment and ensure that you run a safe operation (its a lot easier than it sounds and only lasts about 30 minutes in total).
After you've completed and passed the above your permission for aerial work application is sent to the CAA. Once you've got that back you can get insured for commercial activities and you're away.
Pricing is as follows
BNUC-S training, exam , and flight test with EURO USC £1200 (might be a bit less now)
CAA permission for aerial work £115 from memory, for a UAV under 7kg, £200ish for 7-20kg UAV
Insurance is about £600 a year fully comp
I think getting in trouble for uploading your own videos to youtube (as long as your channel is not monetised) would be a real stretch providing you're not contravening the ANO 166/167 and CAP 722. I have had discussions on here with a photographer before who owns a photography business and uses a small UAV as an extra but for free (which would still be considered commercial). But for hobby stuff on youtube I wouldn't worry too much, just remember you won't be insured if you hit someone.
As for the chap in the link above that got fined for flying in a nuclear no fly zone he's got to be pretty stupid! Even with a licence you'd need special permission from the CAA to fly there.
ETA As someone said earlier use http://www.skydemonlight.com/ to check classifications of air space you are flying in
Edited by andrewrob on Wednesday 25th June 13:39
I was intending to send it off filming cars competing on an autotest course, but that sounds like a bit of a legal minefield. The autonomous bit is a real grey area.
Kozy said:
Hmmm, not worth doing 'legally' then really.
I was intending to send it off filming cars competing on an autotest course, but that sounds like a bit of a legal minefield. The autonomous bit is a real grey area.
From a technical point of view you might struggle too. We've filmed at a sprint course before and you can keep up with the cars but only by cutting some of the corners or stopping short of hairpins etc. I would have thought the auto follow thing would be lacking for that kind of filming as it would try to follow the car rather than cutting across bits of track to keep ahead.I was intending to send it off filming cars competing on an autotest course, but that sounds like a bit of a legal minefield. The autonomous bit is a real grey area.
Fidgits said:
ive just got a Parott AR drone 2.0
any tips for getting good aerial footage?
I keep on stopping myself from getting an AR Drone ... some day I'll capitulate.any tips for getting good aerial footage?
But until then I'm considering one of the cheaper quadcopters, Syma X1 or X3 and strap a cheap phone underneath for some video footage. More just for a bit of fun whilst out and about with the kids, and generally get to grips with flying one of these.
clonmult said:
I keep on stopping myself from getting an AR Drone ... some day I'll capitulate.
But until then I'm considering one of the cheaper quadcopters, Syma X1 or X3 and strap a cheap phone underneath for some video footage. More just for a bit of fun whilst out and about with the kids, and generally get to grips with flying one of these.
Might be worth a lookBut until then I'm considering one of the cheaper quadcopters, Syma X1 or X3 and strap a cheap phone underneath for some video footage. More just for a bit of fun whilst out and about with the kids, and generally get to grips with flying one of these.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hubsan-H107D-Quadcopter-Wi...
if anyone's interested i'm selling a complete spidex quad set-up on ebay that takes superb video - just add a gopro and you're ready to film - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321440737402?ssPageName=...
djneils98 said:
if anyone's interested i'm selling a complete spidex quad set-up on ebay that takes superb video - just add a gopro and you're ready to film - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321440737402?ssPageName=...
Looks a good system - I'm only up near Ipswich, any chance of seeing it in action before bidding?sgrimshaw said:
clonmult said:
I keep on stopping myself from getting an AR Drone ... some day I'll capitulate.
But until then I'm considering one of the cheaper quadcopters, Syma X1 or X3 and strap a cheap phone underneath for some video footage. More just for a bit of fun whilst out and about with the kids, and generally get to grips with flying one of these.
Might be worth a lookBut until then I'm considering one of the cheaper quadcopters, Syma X1 or X3 and strap a cheap phone underneath for some video footage. More just for a bit of fun whilst out and about with the kids, and generally get to grips with flying one of these.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hubsan-H107D-Quadcopter-Wi...
Fidgits said:
ive just got a Parott AR drone 2.0
any tips for getting good aerial footage?
I don't know about drones specifically, but here's my suggestions, based on broadcast experience and observation.any tips for getting good aerial footage?
First things first, get out there and practice. Practice until the flying is second nature and you're not thinking about how to make the aircraft move, you're only thinking about where you want it to go.
After that, for the best footage you need to be smooth, so all your transitions from straight, to turns, to climbs, to pans/tilts, all need to be smooth, and start off very gradually, letting the speed of each 'move' build up subtly (not necessarily slowly, but without any suddenness).
What I found frustrating about that footage linked earlier around the port was that every transition from straight flight to a pan movement was harsh and abrupt. You don't want this, as it makes the viewer suddenly aware of the camera movement changes and it looks amateurish.
Also, if you ever watch TV or films, it's very rare that a camera only makes a single move, that is, a pan is, more often than not, accompanied by a zoom. Obviously if you've a fixed lens camera on your drone, you can't zoom, but you can track, i.e. fly forwards/sideways/backwards, so doing this whilst simultaneously panning and/or tilting will look better than doing each movement in isolation.
Another thing, simply flying about looks a bit dull after a while; you need to be moving to something, away from something, or around something.
Or a combination of 2 or all of the above. So you'd have your subject in shot, fly up to it, circle around it, and fly away whilst still keeping it in the frame, or, whilst moving around that subject, picking up another one in the frame, and letting the original subject slide out of frame while you transition over to the new subject.
When you're approaching a subject, changes in altitude can look dramatic, e.g. start off low and climb as you approach.
Also, when you're circling around your subject, watch the background: if you're in fairly close to the subject, the background appears to move the opposite way (as your subject rotates left, for instance, the background goes to the right), and can look very dramatic if you get it right.
You need to be relatively low with a strong or dominant background (buildings for instance) for this to work best. It's difficult to explain properly, so go out there and experiment.
Hope this gives you a few ideas.
I started off with a hubsan x4 ... Nice we indoor quad, but once you get a nice windless day its actually more fun outside ... and lets face it for £20 you can bin it and not worry to much!!
My aim is to get a Tarot 690 running in FPV and with a gimbal in about a years time.
at the moment I have build a 450mm quad on the cheap with just the purpose described above ... learning to fly ... !
The frame was £12 delivered
The Motors props and ESCs were <£80 delivered
The flight controller was <£20
The expensive parts are the TX & RX but you could easily pick one up second hand.
I bought the taranis which is a superb bit of kit! Highly programmable and easily transferred to your next toy!
Started with
Just finished building this
(Not my one but similar)
Want this by the end of 2015
My aim is to get a Tarot 690 running in FPV and with a gimbal in about a years time.
at the moment I have build a 450mm quad on the cheap with just the purpose described above ... learning to fly ... !
The frame was £12 delivered
The Motors props and ESCs were <£80 delivered
The flight controller was <£20
The expensive parts are the TX & RX but you could easily pick one up second hand.
I bought the taranis which is a superb bit of kit! Highly programmable and easily transferred to your next toy!
Started with
Just finished building this
(Not my one but similar)
Want this by the end of 2015
Picked up a Hubsan X4 107C - only a VGA camera, but should be some fun. Also got a Syma X3 which is going to be my oldest sons practice device.
Well, it'll be fun when it dries up outside and I can figure out the camera. Put in an old 512meg MicroSD card, can get the camera to start recording .... but how the <bleep> do you stop it? A couple of attempts so far, and it hasn't generated any footage. Not that it would have been anything good, just around the lounge.
Well, it'll be fun when it dries up outside and I can figure out the camera. Put in an old 512meg MicroSD card, can get the camera to start recording .... but how the <bleep> do you stop it? A couple of attempts so far, and it hasn't generated any footage. Not that it would have been anything good, just around the lounge.
andrewrob said:
From a technical point of view you might struggle too. We've filmed at a sprint course before and you can keep up with the cars but only by cutting some of the corners or stopping short of hairpins etc. I would have thought the auto follow thing would be lacking for that kind of filming as it would try to follow the car rather than cutting across bits of track to keep ahead.
The Hexo can manage 45mph, which is just about enough for the kind of events we do. I agree that on bigger courses, it's going to be lacking a bit though!Well i've got my 450 quad in the air.
I was flying with a Full Naze32 flight controller giving me very basic functions. But after it fell out the sky i removed it and put a Multiwii pro in.
I've got it all physically installed and flying but not perfectly smoothly. I now need to do some PID tuning!
I'm enjoying it already but could do with some guidance on the PID tuning (if any of the guys from work read this i'll be in trouble as i should know all about it!!)
I was flying with a Full Naze32 flight controller giving me very basic functions. But after it fell out the sky i removed it and put a Multiwii pro in.
I've got it all physically installed and flying but not perfectly smoothly. I now need to do some PID tuning!
I'm enjoying it already but could do with some guidance on the PID tuning (if any of the guys from work read this i'll be in trouble as i should know all about it!!)
just done my first video flight ... dunno if i'm impressed or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW48zg10l9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW48zg10l9c
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