New laptop But what is most important
Discussion
for video editing? a good CPU or Ram or Both ?
been looking at
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/MSI_GE70_2PE_Apache...
http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-photo-oc-mobi...
any suggestions on whats best to look for? I'm going from a 5-6YO Desktop running Windows 8.1 AMD Phenom 2 x4 955 processor and 8 gig ram
really want something that's quicker for uploading and transferring video from memory's cars and editing family holidays and Go Pro vid from trackdays and days out etc..
plus the internet surfing. poss a few games
been looking at
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/MSI_GE70_2PE_Apache...
http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-photo-oc-mobi...
any suggestions on whats best to look for? I'm going from a 5-6YO Desktop running Windows 8.1 AMD Phenom 2 x4 955 processor and 8 gig ram
really want something that's quicker for uploading and transferring video from memory's cars and editing family holidays and Go Pro vid from trackdays and days out etc..
plus the internet surfing. poss a few games
An SSD would make drive transfers much faster, allowing the processor to reach it's potential.
I think alot of production machines tend to be stuffed with ram, but really you need to look at the software you will be using to work out if it receives a benefit from a gpu or not etc before you decide on the laptop.
I think alot of production machines tend to be stuffed with ram, but really you need to look at the software you will be using to work out if it receives a benefit from a gpu or not etc before you decide on the laptop.
If you want fast but poor encoding of video then the GPU may be worth a look but IMO the intel HD graphics have the best fast encoding. But hardware accelerated encoding is frankly crap.
So for normal video encoding go for CPU because the GPU wont be used much. Memory is good but 8gb should be enough.
SSD will be fine but you will be CPU bound for proper video work so having an SSD wont speed that up as such.
So for normal video encoding go for CPU because the GPU wont be used much. Memory is good but 8gb should be enough.
SSD will be fine but you will be CPU bound for proper video work so having an SSD wont speed that up as such.
For video editing?
Processor power matters, i7 recommended
I'd suggest a minimum of 8GB 1600 MHz RAM or as it's cheap now 16GB+ especially if you are applying multiple video effects
The more screen real estate the better, full HD 1920x1280 display is a minimum and you'll probably want an external HD monitor to display comps and renders
SSDs are great, but HD video takes a lot of disk space. I edit HD in HDV format which stores about 4 mins per GB, other codecs will vary. You need space for raw footage (usually a lot of that), scratch space and to save your edited video. If you're editing HD video I would be aiming for 1TB of disk space which these days is just about affordable with SSD - but that means you will almost certainly need to go to a custom builder like PCSpecialist.co.uk
Processor power matters, i7 recommended
I'd suggest a minimum of 8GB 1600 MHz RAM or as it's cheap now 16GB+ especially if you are applying multiple video effects
The more screen real estate the better, full HD 1920x1280 display is a minimum and you'll probably want an external HD monitor to display comps and renders
SSDs are great, but HD video takes a lot of disk space. I edit HD in HDV format which stores about 4 mins per GB, other codecs will vary. You need space for raw footage (usually a lot of that), scratch space and to save your edited video. If you're editing HD video I would be aiming for 1TB of disk space which these days is just about affordable with SSD - but that means you will almost certainly need to go to a custom builder like PCSpecialist.co.uk
Yes, if your choice of laptop supports either two SATA disks or one disk and an mSata SSD (or best of all, two disks plus an mSata SSD, which makes for great scratch space)
You can set aside space on the SSD for the project you are working on and move completed projects onto the HD. Source video assets are best archived on external storage or even optical media once you've finished editing a project
You can set aside space on the SSD for the project you are working on and move completed projects onto the HD. Source video assets are best archived on external storage or even optical media once you've finished editing a project
Hard drive will make a massive difference. Look at any forum where people are speccing up storage for video editing and you'll see that getting enough throughput can be a [b]massive[b] problem - no point having a screaming CPU and video card if your hard drive can't provide enough reads or writes to service it.
RemaL said:
thanks for that
thought on MSi as a maker? anyone had one?
narrowed it down to the MSI GS70 Stealth I hope
I supplied one to a customer a while back - his request - and it's been back to MSI under warranty for repair. Not indicative of all MSI devices though, but I've not had any others (HP/Dell/Lenovo) with any issues at all, despite supplying more of them than anything else.thought on MSi as a maker? anyone had one?
narrowed it down to the MSI GS70 Stealth I hope
To be fair to MSI, they repaired it under warranty but were a bit slow to do so (3 weeks).
RobDickinson said:
If you want fast but poor encoding of video then the GPU may be worth a look but IMO the intel HD graphics have the best fast encoding. But hardware accelerated encoding is frankly crap.
So for normal video encoding go for CPU because the GPU wont be used much. Memory is good but 8gb should be enough.
SSD will be fine but you will be CPU bound for proper video work so having an SSD wont speed that up as such.
Surely that depends on the GPU and the software being used? iirc, Sony Vegas that a friend used supported Nvidia CUDA, and when he moved to a laptop with a decent GPU it made a fair difference in encoding times.So for normal video encoding go for CPU because the GPU wont be used much. Memory is good but 8gb should be enough.
SSD will be fine but you will be CPU bound for proper video work so having an SSD wont speed that up as such.
Having dual drives would be useful - boot drive and applications running on the SSD, and then have the secondary drive for storage. Not sure many laptops support multiple drives.
I've found memory doesn't seem that important for video editing as most PCs/Laptops have decent RAM anyway. CPU makes a difference but I agree with other people that HD is the biggest improvement I've found. I've got an SSD laptop with a portable 1TB USB3 hard drive. So the OS is running uber fast and then processing directly to the USB3 HD. However take a look and see if you can get a thunderbolt 2 port as these run up to 10/20Gbps and double the power of USB3 at insane speed external Hard Drives.
SwissJonese said:
I've found memory doesn't seem that important for video editing as most PCs/Laptops have decent RAM anyway. CPU makes a difference but I agree with other people that HD is the biggest improvement I've found. I've got an SSD laptop with a portable 1TB USB3 hard drive. So the OS is running uber fast and then processing directly to the USB3 HD. However take a look and see if you can get a thunderbolt 2 port as these run up to 10/20Gbps and double the power of USB3 at insane speed external Hard Drives.
Having used both I can honestly say that thunderbolt 2 isn't worth the extra money over USB 3 when using just one external HDD. There will be no applicable difference in transfer speed tbh, but the price will skyrocket.clonmult said:
RobDickinson said:
If you want fast but poor encoding of video then the GPU may be worth a look but IMO the intel HD graphics have the best fast encoding. But hardware accelerated encoding is frankly crap.
So for normal video encoding go for CPU because the GPU wont be used much. Memory is good but 8gb should be enough.
SSD will be fine but you will be CPU bound for proper video work so having an SSD wont speed that up as such.
Surely that depends on the GPU and the software being used? iirc, Sony Vegas that a friend used supported Nvidia CUDA, and when he moved to a laptop with a decent GPU it made a fair difference in encoding times.So for normal video encoding go for CPU because the GPU wont be used much. Memory is good but 8gb should be enough.
SSD will be fine but you will be CPU bound for proper video work so having an SSD wont speed that up as such.
Having dual drives would be useful - boot drive and applications running on the SSD, and then have the secondary drive for storage. Not sure many laptops support multiple drives.
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