Which network for best 4G performance?
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mattley said:
xreyuk said:
Pints said:
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t.ttish response from Pints especially given your carefully chosen words, which understated the case IMO. It's not just a feeling is it? Root metrics data collection methods and weighting across result factors are far from transparent.As for money changing hands I don't think it's a secret that of the three networks EE are root metrics only paying customer.
PS. I'm amused how a standard PH smiley can have such an emotive response. I'm happy to retract the moving picture if it upsets you that much.
Edited by Pints on Monday 8th September 06:54
Pints said:
PS. I'm amused how a standard PH smiley can have such an emotive response. I'm happy to retract the moving picture if it upsets you that much.
It's not the moving pictures, it's the just laughing at a post whilst adding nothing.And you're still not addressing the fact that Rootmetrics testing methods are far from transparent and their results often don't match real world experience and massively favour their only paying customer.
Just laughing and calling tin foil hat really doesn't cut it.
mattley said:
It's not the moving pictures, it's the just laughing at a post whilst adding nothing.
And you're still not addressing the fact that Rootmetrics testing methods are far from transparent and their results often don't match real world experience and massively favour their only paying customer.
Just laughing and calling tin foil hat really doesn't cut it.
You're right. That was rude of me and I apologise.And you're still not addressing the fact that Rootmetrics testing methods are far from transparent and their results often don't match real world experience and massively favour their only paying customer.
Just laughing and calling tin foil hat really doesn't cut it.
I think calling EE a paying customer is disingenuous in context of this discussion. Buying the detailed reports which Rootmetrics make available is not the same as buying the results of best network. The detailed results (and further transparency) are available to all network operators. The detailed information which may be bought by EE does not magically change because they're paid for.
EE have a year's advantage in developing their 4G network. Plenty of anecdotal evidence (if RootMetric data isn't enough) on this very forum and thread of EE's network advantage. Given they're already covering over 75% of the population, I'm not sure why this is hard to accept. Vodafone are perhaps understandably miffed that the RootMetric results don't paint them in a brilliant light, but I'm sure they're doing their best to improve things (£1bn investment in 2014, according to various sources). However, their ongoing whinging stinks of sour grapes. They had the upper hand (spectrum-wise) for years but now the tables have turned, and they're not too pleased.
Incidentally, Vodafone have previously been quoted as calling the RootMetric results laughable, so perhaps my original response was a default mode response to their dismissive attitude.
Edited by Pints on Monday 8th September 12:13
When I looked at contracts for our company mobiles last year, Vodafone were offering by far the cheapest deals. The rep was very good and I was close to signing but thought I'd better get some real-world comparisons. In our neck of the woods; South West, Midlands and South Wales the coverage for my drivers was poor. When I reported this to the rep he was embarrassed and apologetic - he said Vodafone were investing so much money and resources into 4G everything else was also suffering, but it would be short-term only. I gather it's still as bad.
Better the devil you know. We stuck with O2 and while they're a bit pants, but at least I can understand their bills and get some useful reports.
Better the devil you know. We stuck with O2 and while they're a bit pants, but at least I can understand their bills and get some useful reports.
Pints said:
Vodafone have previously been quoted as calling the RootMetric results laughable, so perhaps my original response was a default mode response to their dismissive attitude.
All's fair mate 
as with so many of these things the right answer is probably in between.I think there's also a feeling, no, hang on, more that a feeling, that Vodafone need to stop winging and sort their f
king network out, 'cos if there's on thing everyone and root metrics agree upon it's that Vodafone have gone to fking st.
Just been doing some sums. EE seem more expensive than anyone else, but they also have the most bands available to them. By comparison, O2 and Tesco are quite cheap, but only have some of the 800mhz band available to them. EE have 4G where I live, where I work and in my home town. Tesco / O2 only have it where I work and my home town.
4GB on EE is £38.99 a month with a free Sony Z2 (£935.76 over 24 months)
3GB on Tesco is £36 a month with a free Sony Z2 (£864 over 24 months)
8GB on O2 SIM only is £20 a month (£240 over 12 months, plus £400 for the phone equals £640, or £880 over 24 months)
I can get a Z2 for £400 from Amazon.
The Z3 from CPW is Pre order at £550, so with the O2 SIM only plan, thats £1030 over 24 months.
So on paper going by price the SIM only deal and the SIM free phone is the cheaper option for 12 months, but not over the longer term, but for £8 a year I get 5GB of data more a month. It then becomes a case of do I want to pay now for a phone, or over 24 months? I could go with an Oppo Find 7a and save even more (£80 over the SIM free phone so net is £800 over 24 months).
OR, I can wait for Sony Z3 to come out and get that on the same deal with EE as for the Z2.
It's difficult to choose as my default choice has always been sticking with Orange. I've been an Orange customer for 15 years and only recently feel like leaving because of the poor network signal and performance.
Is 3/4GB enough? I aren't a heavy user, I've used less than 300mb of my 2GB 3G allowance this month, and my billing date is 6 days away.
4GB on EE is £38.99 a month with a free Sony Z2 (£935.76 over 24 months)
3GB on Tesco is £36 a month with a free Sony Z2 (£864 over 24 months)
8GB on O2 SIM only is £20 a month (£240 over 12 months, plus £400 for the phone equals £640, or £880 over 24 months)
I can get a Z2 for £400 from Amazon.
The Z3 from CPW is Pre order at £550, so with the O2 SIM only plan, thats £1030 over 24 months.
So on paper going by price the SIM only deal and the SIM free phone is the cheaper option for 12 months, but not over the longer term, but for £8 a year I get 5GB of data more a month. It then becomes a case of do I want to pay now for a phone, or over 24 months? I could go with an Oppo Find 7a and save even more (£80 over the SIM free phone so net is £800 over 24 months).
OR, I can wait for Sony Z3 to come out and get that on the same deal with EE as for the Z2.
It's difficult to choose as my default choice has always been sticking with Orange. I've been an Orange customer for 15 years and only recently feel like leaving because of the poor network signal and performance.
Is 3/4GB enough? I aren't a heavy user, I've used less than 300mb of my 2GB 3G allowance this month, and my billing date is 6 days away.
4gb is ample for a light user. It's probably enough for most users, if you aren't using your data allowance to download films. I've been using my data to stream music, occasional YouTube videos, download apps, regular Internet browsing and mail set to push, and I've only used 2.5gb this month.
Also, you don't risk exceeding your data usage with EE; once you reach your limit you stop getting data so you can't run up your bill.
Also, you don't risk exceeding your data usage with EE; once you reach your limit you stop getting data so you can't run up your bill.
Why aren't you a heavy user though, is it because you've always had a data limit so have never used your phone? I always had a work phone so had a payg mobile for myself and as a result rarely used any mobile data as it would cost me, I then got a 3 contract about a year ago with unlimited data and my last bill was.. Internet (MB) 41,509.
I now stream all music, upload every photo and video, watch movies and tv, let my mates tether off of it and umpteen other things. I feel like I've been missing out all of these years
I now stream all music, upload every photo and video, watch movies and tv, let my mates tether off of it and umpteen other things. I feel like I've been missing out all of these years
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