ios 8 - rubbish
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page3 said:
TimmyWimmyWoo said:
Has anyone else's wifi been incredibly patchy/slow since upgrading to iOS8?
Yes. Wifi is fubared. I'm sure 8.1 (or 8.0.1) will be along soon enough...
All my other wifi enable bits of tech work fine so I know its not my network
toohuge said:
A rather annoying feature of ios8 is the private browsing option in Safari.
In 7, when you turned private browsing off, it gave you the option to close all the tabs....ios8 however just switches back to normal browsing but.... keeps the 'private' tabs open when you switch back to private! - Important if you share your phone with your OH for example...
Which Is why this post is brought to you courtesy of Google Chrome for the iPad. IOS8 was the final straw for Safari AFAIC. And suruptisious browsing is but a dab of a finger away to open an 'incognito' tab. In fact, I'm annoyed with myself for tolerating Safari all this time; Chrome, thus far, seems to be the answer to life, the universe and everything.In 7, when you turned private browsing off, it gave you the option to close all the tabs....ios8 however just switches back to normal browsing but.... keeps the 'private' tabs open when you switch back to private! - Important if you share your phone with your OH for example...
I've kept the old version of iBooks on my ipad3 since ios7 came in. I preferred the old "realism" 3D type presentation. Updating to ios8 has wiped and replaced it. At least with 7 it was optional. Not a big deal to many I'm sure, and perhaps necessary going forward for development. But miffed, nonetheless. The old iBooks was actually one of the first things I loved about my iPad at the time. Pfft.
philv said:
It shouldnt really be like this though should it.
If this had been a release of software into production at a financial insituation in rhe city, would this have gone down well?
Its basically a one button process to uograde.
A one button orocess to roll back would be nice, rather than trawling the net looking for answers, etc.
Its been a frustrating exoerience.
I feel that system testing has been done by the public.
A lot of people imimagine use an ipad because its simpler than a pc.
But i only got out of ios 8 by using a pc, the eeb and itunes.
Out of interest what would you want/ need from a custom keyboard? I've no idea how complicated it is to develop one at this point, but I'm an app developer so could take a look.If this had been a release of software into production at a financial insituation in rhe city, would this have gone down well?
Its basically a one button process to uograde.
A one button orocess to roll back would be nice, rather than trawling the net looking for answers, etc.
Its been a frustrating exoerience.
I feel that system testing has been done by the public.
A lot of people imimagine use an ipad because its simpler than a pc.
But i only got out of ios 8 by using a pc, the eeb and itunes.
silent k said:
Out of interest what would you want/ need from a custom keyboard? I've no idea how complicated it is to develop one at this point, but I'm an app developer so could take a look.
Reasonably simple https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentat...ecsrobin said:
Reasonably simple https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentat...
Looks relatively painless for a change! Might give it a go when I get a chance.
silent k said:
Out of interest what would you want/ need from a custom keyboard? I've no idea how complicated it is to develop one at this point, but I'm an app developer so could take a look.
The keyboard that apple use for the appstore passwords is good.It is a dark keyboard.
High contrast.
Thick bright white letters on dark kkeys. With a contrasting surround.
So bright thick white letters.
They should be upper case and large.
The keys should be dark grey or black or yellow.
Not a glary yellow.
Alot of paper work is offered with black on yellow for rhe visually impaired.
The color between keys should be a grey or bkack.
Ive checked out all the 3rd party keyboards during my brief try of ios 8.
They full down because -
Lettering too small or lower case or too thin or too dull.
Coloring too gkarey - eg red on red on red etc.
If you want any more info you can pm me.
I can send you so e examples.
If you wrote 3 or 4 keyboards, youd be on a winner.
Id pay a fiver if it was the right keyboard, after a trial etc.
As im sure would a lot of people.
You have to remember thats its not a game that you can live without.
Somethink like a good keyboard can make a huge difference to usability.
You could also get it reviewed by the rnib (royal national institute for the blind) who cover all sigh dissabilities and levels of sight loss - not just totally blind.
But its not just limited to those with poor sight.
As to your potential market.
A quick scan on the o ternet and it says as many as 11 million people have age related macular degeneration in the states.
Thats the most common eye problem.
But certainly not the only one.
There are a lot of people out there with eye problems in the market for avdevice theyvcan use.
My mother has it - just started - shes 77.
She loves her kindle but uts getting hard to read the letters due to low contrast.
Shell get an ipad or tab next year tommake it easier .
It will be a tab unless a decent keyboard comes out.
A quick scan on the o ternet and it says as many as 11 million people have age related macular degeneration in the states.
Thats the most common eye problem.
But certainly not the only one.
There are a lot of people out there with eye problems in the market for avdevice theyvcan use.
My mother has it - just started - shes 77.
She loves her kindle but uts getting hard to read the letters due to low contrast.
Shell get an ipad or tab next year tommake it easier .
It will be a tab unless a decent keyboard comes out.
The only downside to a keyboard for the visually impaired is that app developers can choose to ignore add on keyboards. Which is a shame. However as we have seen with apple they like to buy up good ideas so if the keyboard is created and is taken up on mass there's a chance apple will want to integrate it in a future iOS.
I would love to help however I'm in the middle of a house move so the computer is all packed up for now.
I would love to help however I'm in the middle of a house move so the computer is all packed up for now.
Excuse the poor lettering and I haven't done the extra function keys, but are you after something like this?
Quick key edit by -robinecs-
Quick key edit by -robinecs-silent k said:
Looks relatively painless for a change! Might give it a go when I get a chance.
On the bottom of the page in that link.There is an orange or yellow diagram with black writing.
That is already much easier to see than the ioad keyboard.
Less glare, better contrast, less fatiguing.
ecsrobin said:
Excuse the poor lettering and I haven't done the extra function keys, but are you after something like this?
Quick key edit by -robinecs-
Excellent.Quick key edit by -robinecs-I would buy a phone or tablet based on having a keyboard like that.
Also have the same with white letters on black keys and youre on a winner.
The only bad think is id probably have to consider a new ioad with ios 8 to have those new keyboards
Thats remarkably similar to keyboards that you can buy for pcs for the visually impaired.
Edited by philv on Wednesday 24th September 13:33
I can resize the image with zoom to see exactly how it would look on my ipad.
Id have it on my ioad now.
Get that and a few color variants on the app store.
Is it difficult to have under the app settings, the option to set the folloeing individually -
Text size
Text color
Key color
Background color
With also say 3 pre customized siggestions such as the yellow keyboard above
A white on black on grey
And a black on white on grey
Id have it on my ioad now.
Get that and a few color variants on the app store.
Is it difficult to have under the app settings, the option to set the folloeing individually -
Text size
Text color
Key color
Background color
With also say 3 pre customized siggestions such as the yellow keyboard above
A white on black on grey
And a black on white on grey
I'm a developer working for a bank. We get allocated various mandatory training courses most of which are proper Noddy crap. One of these was a one hour introduction to designing user interfaces for users with visual impairment. One of topics covered was the appropriate use of foreground and background colour pairs for text display. A noddy one hour intro course covered this. Are we really saying Apple, famed for the quality of its design, cocked up something this basic?
ATG said:
I'm a developer working for a bank. We get allocated various mandatory training courses most of which are proper Noddy crap. One of these was a one hour introduction to designing user interfaces for users with visual impairment. One of topics covered was the appropriate use of foreground and background colour pairs for text display. A noddy one hour intro course covered this. Are we really saying Apple, famed for the quality of its design, cocked up something this basic?
Cocked up? No They just didnt bother and decided to leave it for 3rd party developers at some time possibly in the future.
They already have a dark keyboard (its used for passwords in the app store).
It was also an ootion in one of the ios 7 beta releases.
So trivial for them to put it in ios 8.
So why didnt they do this or add a couple of visually impaired keybiards?
Its as if theyve decided everyone either has perfect vision or is blind.
Or they realuse that letting 3rd party developers develope keyboards means more revenues for apple if people pay for them.
They didnt cock up.
They just dont really care.
Anyone can pop on ebay or rnib websites to see keyboards for the visually impaired.
Either way it shows no consideration for visually impaired.
The zoom is brillant.
But since the first ioad ios, things havent improved.
So they know they cannmake it alot easier for potentially millions of people. But dont.
In fact they are getting worse with the transparancy and light grey text and thin text.
Yes theyve added bold text and contrast but that affects very little.
It only slightly helps alleviate how much harder the new ios 7/8 is to read.
Edited by philv on Wednesday 24th September 18:13
Edited by philv on Wednesday 24th September 18:21
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