ios 8 - rubbish

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philv

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3,920 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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So, until yesterday i had ios 6.
No problems except a couple of apps i wanted needed ios 8.


Being oartially sighted i was wary of the glary low contrast keyboard.
I checked out an iis 7 ioad at the airport and saw it had a great dark grey keyboard with bright thick white lettering.

Great i thought and downloaded ios 8.

Then discovered the dark grey keyboard was only on appstore.
Everywhere else it is the gkary white one.

I see notes now has no color - bkack on white with no lines.

Yahoo mail is black on white.

Apps run slower.

Safari takes a age to lad.

Opera renders slowly.

I switch karge text on for my cack eyesight, only to see text bigger but crunched up in contacts and safari bookmarks.
A real joke.

I wonder if anyone tests this rubbish.

Ios 6 to me was easier to read - less glary.

What is all this transoarant rubbish.
I eant to see what i want to see - not what is behind it.

Why would anyone want kettering in faint grey ?!

As i write this the keys on my keyboard are lighting up as the ti e delay between typing and the key turning grey is huge.

I gave up my iphone for a galaxy note.

Next year ill ditch the ipad and go the same route.

Apple seems all show and no content to me.

Just watched 12 keys light up grey after i finished typing. Ffs.

If the performance is that st on ipad 2 why did apple let me download it. T0ssers

philv

Original Poster:

3,920 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Note to apple - i for one dont want your drab washed out glary colorless world.

I realise they dont i plement the grey keyboard as an option so that third oarty developers can do it instead. And the apple can take a cut through the appstore.

So i have to wait and hope for a decent keyboard.

Money grabbing buggers.




Fluid

1,727 posts

185 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Read that twice, and still have no idea what you are on about.

Turn7

23,591 posts

221 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Fluid said:
Read that twice, and still have no idea what you are on about.
Nice, helpfull response.

Hopefully the OPs partial sight wont allow him to see your poor attitude.

LotusMartin

1,112 posts

152 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Loving it on my 6. maybe your phone is just old and slow wink

talkssense

1,336 posts

202 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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There are loads of extra accessibility options in 8 for partially sighted people, I thought it was one of the talked about features and improvements?

Greyscale, invert colours, add borders to buttons etc?

Arun_D

2,302 posts

195 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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I feel your pain, OP.

Safari on my 3rd gen' iPad is terribly slow now, and text entry on some sites is like wading through treacle. Same issue as you where you complete the physical act of typing and just watch the keyboard and text box catch up for the next few seconds.

Frurstrating as these issues have more impression on the user than the improvements, certainly for me anyway.

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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What model iPhone are you using? I wouldn't try iOS8 on anything lower than a '5'

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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What model iPhone are you using? I wouldn't try iOS8 on anything lower than a '5'

westtra

1,531 posts

201 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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settings, general, accessibility then have a play with the options then make a judgement.

onlynik

3,978 posts

193 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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SwiftKey. It's free. Black keyboard with white characters.

Sushifiend

5,161 posts

137 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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iPad 2. We have one of those in the family which is still on ios6. I have no plans to upgrade unless someone finds a way of installing Android on it!

SF

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Every time any new OS is released there is bhing and moaning until people know how to use it.

iOS 8 is an incremental improvement over iOS 7. iOS 7 was dramatically different and better than iOS 6.

In two weeks, OP, you will be fine with it as you will have found the options and settings that suit you personally. People hated Windows 8. Now (with 8.1) its really very usable. What's the difference? Twelve months of people getting used to it.

User friendly is what you know...give it time.

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Sushifiend said:
iPad 2. We have one of those in the family which is still on ios6. I have no plans to upgrade unless someone finds a way of installing Android on it!

SF
Wife's iPad 2 is running iOS 8 with no problems.

LotusMartin

1,112 posts

152 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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onlynik said:
SwiftKey. It's free. Black keyboard with white characters.
And flaky on iOS 8 I'm finding. like keyboard completely missing at times in Safari. it also doesn't recognise keyboard shortcuts from settings which is a pain.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Don said:
Sushifiend said:
iPad 2. We have one of those in the family which is still on ios6. I have no plans to upgrade unless someone finds a way of installing Android on it!

SF
Wife's iPad 2 is running iOS 8 with no problems.
How's Safari? Feels like they forgot to take tha debugging code out...

ecsrobin

17,093 posts

165 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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I've been using ios8 for the last 2-3 months as a beta and now on the final release version that you are on and notice no issues, this is on an iPhone 5s. What device are you using?

philv

Original Poster:

3,920 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Don said:
Every time any new OS is released there is bhing and moaning until people know how to use it.

iOS 8 is an incremental improvement over iOS 7. iOS 7 was dramatically different and better than iOS 6.

In two weeks, OP, you will be fine with it as you will have found the options and settings that suit you personally. People hated Windows 8. Now (with 8.1) its really very usable. What's the difference? Twelve months of people getting used to it.

User friendly is what you know...give it time.
With respect, im very good with an ipad.
20 years it experience.

Im also very experienced about accessability features on an ipad.

There are a great number of eye problems out there.
Mine is just one of rhem.
Having an on off button for contrast is not much help.
Does every person need either liw or high? What about inbetween.

Its nice to have the option to increase. Text size,mbut not increasing the size of the space the text gies into makes text unreadable and overlapping on some pkaces.

Black writing on a yellow background vastly improves readability for people with poor sight. So where is it?

Light grey writing? No option to change?

Theyve paid lip service to accessability.
The ios 6 was easier to use. Good contrasting colots on the keyboard,
Now its like looking at a bright light.

But thats just accessability which i can handke.

I am using an ioad 2.
Do not uograde an ipod2 unless you want 10 second response times in safari and other web briwsers.
As i said i was typing in my post here. I finished typing.
And them watched as the keyboard tyoed the last 12 characters id pressed. Thats an impressive deoay."

And the third party keyboards - ive tried them all already.
Light red on bright red etc etc doesnt do anything for me.
Nice big thick bright letters on big keys with well defined surrounds.
Thats what poor sighted people would require in my experience.
If apple were serious about accessability they would have given some options on this.
No third party keyboards address people with poor vision now.

Theres very little extra accessability wise.
They obviously never consulted an expert on this.

Anyways at present unless i can get back to ios 6 or 7 this ioad now performs so badly its just an expensive games console for my daughter.

I did go on to the apple website to compkain.
When sekecting the ios the compkaint was about, the drop down didnt even give ios 8 as an option lol


ecsrobin

17,093 posts

165 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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My parents are both running ios8 on ipad2's and are having no issues with the text delaying. I've occasionally had that issue on my iPad but a quick shutdown of all apps and then a restart fixes the issue.

As to your keyboard issue, now apple are allowing 3rd party keyboards have you thought of developing one with your IT experience? Sounds like you've found a market that's not catered for at present and you could assist fellow poor sight sufferers?

As to the range of accessibility within ios8 I've just trawled through all the settings that are available from zoom, to contrast settings right through to Braille and VoiceOver and would say apple have made a very good effort for those that need them settings but unfortunately you can't cater for everyone.

Hopefully you find a solution soon.

philv

Original Poster:

3,920 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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For voice over and braille i do not use.

For contrast i see no difference.

For inverse colors - it inverses the whole ipad - even photos - why!?

For large text - it no longer fits where it is intended and becomes even harder to read.

No different color schemes.
No keyboard that would help.

LOW AND HIGH CONTRAST DOESNT EVEN AFFECT THE KEYBOARD.

Very little has changed since ios 6.

How difficult to include an option to change the background color or similar?

Its taken apple 4 years to allow third party keyboards.

The ipad is very good but could be suoerb if apple really bothered.