Windows 10!

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zippy3x

1,315 posts

267 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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ccr32 said:
zippy3x said:
Microsoft :
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Created one operating system for PC, tablet and phone allowing developers to write one app to run across all platform (and one purchase to cover all platforms)
Is this actually the case? I mean, I know they are named the same, but are you telling me that a full desktop version of 8.1 is sat on a Windows phone with only the touchy Metro bits made available?

This is actually a serious question by the way, not a dig! I genuinely don't know... ?
Probably my less than brilliant phrasing. Probably should have read "Created one set of platform APIs for PC, tablet and phone"

In terms of the OS, I believe that the windows kernel is shared between platforms, but will obviously need to be compiled against the different target architectures. In this process only selected parts of the OS will be deployed to selected devices.

In short, no there won't be a full desktop version of 8.1 on the phone.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/windows-phone-8...

VeeDubBigBird

440 posts

129 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Windows 10: reverting to Windows 7 with a facelift (hopefully).

Windows 7 has been the only OS I can't immediately recollect having any major issues with since XP so this might be a good thing, however Windows is a bit like the Star Trek movies now so skipping a number could be a bad omen.

Windows 2000/ ME - Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Windows XP - Wrath of Khan
Windows Vista - Search for Spock
Windows 7 - The Voyage Home
Windows 8 - The Final Frontier
Windows 9 - The Undiscovered Country ( not too be frown )
Windows 10 - Star Trek: Generations

Chris Type R

8,031 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Sheets Tabuer said:
yup, desktop feature is pretty handy.
Excellent. Busy downloading the ISO, so may well try this with Visual Studio 2013.

Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Anyone got a link to where i can get an evaluation copy?

also would I be able to install it on virtualbox?


Sheets Tabuer

18,963 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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VeeDubBigBird said:
Windows 10: reverting to Windows 7 with a facelift (hopefully).

Windows 7 has been the only OS I can't immediately recollect having any major issues with since XP so this might be a good thing, however Windows is a bit like the Star Trek movies now so skipping a number could be a bad omen.

Windows 2000/ ME - Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Windows XP - Wrath of Khan
Windows Vista - Search for Spock
Windows 7 - The Voyage Home
Windows 8 - The Final Frontier
Windows 9 - The Undiscovered Country ( not too be frown )
Windows 10 - Star Trek: Generations
Fellas I think we've just been out geeked hehe

Chris Type R

8,031 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Foliage said:
Anyone got a link to where i can get an evaluation copy?

also would I be able to install it on virtualbox?
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/dn798751.aspx?ocid=wc-mscom-wol

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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It installs fine in VMware player. Just tell it that its windows 8 when you point it to the iso

Chris Type R

8,031 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Instructions for VirtualBox - http://betanews.com/2014/10/01/how-to-install-wind...

EDIT: Judging by the comments, it looks like VMWare might be easier to get working.

Edited by Chris Type R on Thursday 2nd October 12:44

Sheets Tabuer

18,963 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Can confirm on VMware enterprise hehe

Chris Type R

8,031 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Ok, installed on VM player & I like what I see.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Anyone having problems getting a network connection to show under Vmware Workstation 10?
I assume there are some network drivers in the Preview. Its a RealTek GBE Family Controller if it matters.

Blown2CV

28,820 posts

203 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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article on slashdot about MS not moving on the minimum supported specs since Vista. single-core 1GHz, 32-bit chip with just 1GB of RAM. Back then it was a lower mid-range PC, now it would get blown away by a low-end phone.

Way back when, windows install-base was it's major advantage, but they've mis-managed that situation into a massive achilles heel. To be fair, it isn't all their fault, as the world has moved on into a product-based, in-built obsolescence tech model, with greater binding between OS and platform evolution. Windows is stuck on the old guard model of permitting old ste PCs to support the new OS. That's a proper double edged sword as the people who generally still have these old machines (if they're running windows and used as a primary machine, rather than freeNAS or linux or whatever, sat under a desk and very much not a primary machine) are the type of people that would have their entire worldview destroyed by the 'new' win8/10 interface. So MS are fked either way really.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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I like 8 and my PCs are young and healthy. As ever, I will simply move to a new OS when I buy a new computer which comes with it installed.

Funk

26,278 posts

209 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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Have just popped a spare disk in my laptop to install 10 and have a play.

I'm a heavy 7 (PC) and 8.1 (laptop) user, but the latter only with Classic Shell installed. 8.1 on its own drove me insane. Without Classic Shell, I'd have quickly downgraded the laptop to 7 I think.

Looking forward to seeing whether 10 remedies the frustrations of 8.1 whilst retaining the speed and stability... On another note, I'd forgotten just how slow 7200 disks are when you've gotten used to SSD...!

williredale

2,866 posts

152 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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We downloaded a copy yesterday and installed it on a spare machine. It looks pretty good, an evolution of 7 which is imho a good thing.

Funk

26,278 posts

209 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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Already nuked it - it's just like 8 with Classic Shell except they've added the annoying tiles to the Start Menu.

Unless there's a pretty convincing set of other features I haven't been made aware of yet I'll be sticking with what I have for a long time yet.

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

237 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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Its pretty rapid for a pre-beta.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Its apparently about 10% of the final product changes, and doesnt even include the best touch/keyboard switch option they demo'd so dont write it off just yet

TonyRPH

12,973 posts

168 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Sheets Tabuer said:
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Happy all the swiping to corners has gone.
As an admin who works with server 2012 this is the bane of my life. Trying to get the menu to pop out over RDP even on a decent remote connection can be a challenge at times. As frequently I run multiple RDP sessions, I tend to keep them windowed, so using the Windows key is not an option (unless I'm missing something..).

Blown2CV

28,820 posts

203 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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wolves_wanderer said:
Its pretty rapid for a pre-beta.
As a fresh bare install