Windows 10!

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FairfieldSteve

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2,721 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Skipping over 9...We have 10 on the horizon!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29431412

So far so good. I reluctantly moved over to 8.1 last week and have been broadly impressed so far.

Personally, I wish larger screens and text sizes were handled better but I doubt that will get looked at....


Anyway, anyone going to get on the beta?

h0b0

7,559 posts

195 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Windows 10? That's nothing. You are 85 editions back. I used to have Windows 95.

zip929

670 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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At last! The start menu back.
My wife has been using windows 8 for a long time and hates the missing start menu.
I do not use win 8 and do not use it in the office for the same reason.
Radically differs from win 7 to make everyday tasks more of a chore to do!

I work in IT and one thing users do not like is a radically new UI.
They do not want to spend weeks or months relearning how to do things they could do easily before.
MS got this one wrong.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Aparently calling it windows 9 wouldn't have been enough to show the huge change it is.

Windows 7 to 8 wasn't big enough?

Ffs utterly pretentious.

sly fox

2,220 posts

218 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Was at a customer office today when this news was announced. They moved to Win 7 for desktops last year, and plan to be on it until EOS in 2020.

With more and more apps being provided by VDI/ Thin Client/ Citrix - mostly accessed by browsers- why do they need to give their users anything more than Windows 7?
Its a valid point. If you can secure these platforms a new OS - carry on with what you have.

I think people are not just playing Microsofts upgrade game any more. It's too much of an upheaval and cost for little extra benefit to the workplace. I only know of 1 large corporate who has moved to Win 8.




FairfieldSteve

Original Poster:

2,721 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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sly fox said:
I think people are not just playing Microsofts upgrade game any more. It's too much of an upheaval and cost for little extra benefit to the workplace. I only know of 1 large corporate who has moved to Win 8.
The firm I worked for rolled out Windows 8 over a weekend, that was great fun watching everyone struggle on the Monday morning.....

I kept Windows 7. Needed a 'legacy' rig in case some software didn't work smile They haven't made me upgrade yet!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Under the hood windows 8 is really nice.

No one at Microsoft thought turning a powerful workstation with multiple screens into just a one screen calculator was a bad idea.. ?

Metro is OK but needs restricting to just touch / tablet devices

Beati Dogu

8,864 posts

138 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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So if they're skipping 9, does that mean 10 will be crap as well?

Or is the "every other one" rule still in effect?

Chris Type R

8,018 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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RobDickinson said:
Aparently calling it windows 9 wouldn't have been enough to show the huge change it is.

Windows 7 to 8 wasn't big enough?

Ffs utterly pretentious.
Might be related to 9 being deemed unlucky in Japan.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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There is an official quote from a Microsoft exec saying that 9 wouldn't have been enough to show how much has changed. No mention of luck...

Chris Type R

8,018 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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RobDickinson said:
There is an official quote from a Microsoft exec saying that 9 wouldn't have been enough to show how much has changed. No mention of luck...
I find the conjecture more plausible than the corporate justification.

dxg

8,124 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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RobDickinson said:
Aparently calling it windows 9 wouldn't have been enough to show the huge change it is.

Windows 7 to 8 wasn't big enough?

Ffs utterly pretentious.
Is everyone forgetting that microsoft went straight from Word 2 to Word 6?

Morningside

24,110 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Not going to call it "Windows X" then?

Chris Type R

8,018 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Morningside said:
Not going to call it "Windows X" then?
An OS with X on the end ? Nah, it'll never catch on.

ViperDave

5,520 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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dxg said:
Is everyone forgetting that microsoft went straight from Word 2 to Word 6?
wasn't that so they could have a higher edition number than WordPerfect which was the standard at the time. I guess they are figuring by the time they get windows 10 out the door apple will be on IOS 9 but in reality the rate they knock them out they will likely be on IOS 11 or 12 at which point windows will conveniently go back to following the years with windows 16

ViperDave

5,520 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Morningside said:
Not going to call it "Windows X" then?
windx for you MS enabled glasses, in direct competition with google glass, no doubt with optional clear view apps

wolves_wanderer

12,356 posts

236 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Chris Type R said:
Morningside said:
Not going to call it "Windows X" then?
An OS with X on the end ? Nah, it'll never catch on.
If it only catches on as well as OSX MS are fked.

P-Jay

10,551 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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RobDickinson said:
There is an official quote from a Microsoft exec saying that 9 wouldn't have been enough to show how much has changed. No mention of luck...
Marketing BS, it's simply Win8 was sales poison and they want consumers to consider this more than 'the next one'.

10 will be a mix of 7 and 8, a start menu with colourful tiles - all the moaners wanted was a start menu - personally I would have renamed Win7 as Windows Enterprise or Windows Faster Horses because business owners don't want to lose a few hours of productivity for their staff to learn the new OS (frankly, 10 minutes was all you needed) and marched on with the 8 format for rest of us.

I find this move depressing really, finally after 2 years of end users crying like babies to us "but it's different waaaaaaaaaa" and ordering Win7 machines, we were finally seeing some light at the end of the tunnel as people seemed to be buying Win8 machines for home and wanted them for work very quickly after - but this will kill that dead.

RobGT81

5,227 posts

185 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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The company I work for has just rolled out 8.1 to everyone. It's a massive shower of st. Although I think a lot of that is to do with the fairly shoddy way they have rolled it out to everyone, with limited testing. A couple of years ago I would have expected better from a fortune 500 company but they same as bad as anyone.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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sly fox said:
Was at a customer office today when this news was announced. They moved to Win 7 for desktops last year, and plan to be on it until EOS in 2020.

With more and more apps being provided by VDI/ Thin Client/ Citrix - mostly accessed by browsers- why do they need to give their users anything more than Windows 7?
Its a valid point. If you can secure these platforms a new OS - carry on with what you have.

I think people are not just playing Microsofts upgrade game any more. It's too much of an upheaval and cost for little extra benefit to the workplace. I only know of 1 large corporate who has moved to Win 8.
Open source software is improving (Android, Chrome). With Apple hardware (yes I know you pay for it) the OS and Apple software is free. Various 'App Stores' have moved consumer expectations from £40/application to £1 max/application.

Software is Microsoft's core competency, and it's being rapidly commoditised. That's why they've moved into hardware more, and want to rent you Office.