Can a sim receive texts out of the phone?

Can a sim receive texts out of the phone?

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JIM600

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205 posts

200 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Hi all,

I did try to google this, but couldnt get anything helpful.

I took my simcard out of my phone last week, put a new sim in and went on holiday. Now I know that my old sim has had several messages sent to it during that time, but when I put the old sim back in the phone - I get no notification of new texts, so what has happened to the 20 or so texts sent to my old sim while it was sitting on the desk, are they in cyberspace? Is there anyway to access them, or will they come through to the phone at some point in the next 24hrs, or gone forever?

Hopefully that makes sense, I'm (obviously) not really a phone/tech whizz.
Cheers

mrmr96

13,736 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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They will come through later, just as if the phone had been off.

JIM600

Original Poster:

205 posts

200 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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I see, cheers for the help, good news smile

And will they come through as "new" texts, ie dated/timed ahead of the ones on the phone which I got on the new simcard over the last week, or will they slot in at the times they would have been sent?

eatontrifles

1,442 posts

234 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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SMS messages have a time limit that they will be tried by the network before expiring. I seem to recall around 10 years ago that the default was seven days and by adding a string of text to the beginning of your message you could change it to however long you wanted.

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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If the sim isn't in a phone under coverage, the sms will sit in the SMSC (server) awaiting delivery.

How long they wait is down to policy, and I have no idea on that.

GlenMH

5,212 posts

243 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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The SMSC on Vodafone will keep trying for 7 days and after that the texts evaporate.

tribbles

3,974 posts

222 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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When an SMS is sent, part of the message is a field which signifies the timeout for the message - this allows the SMSC to keep hold of the message and send it to the subscriber when the subscriber is next connected to the network. However, if the subscriber doesn't connect, then the message will be discarded if the timeout is reached.

Not all devices allow you to set the timeout, so it would probably be the device's default value (whatever that is).