Android 5.x "Lollipop"

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ZesPak

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24,427 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Youtube reviewer MKBHD did a short review on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEDQ1z1-PvU

Not a final version, but seems a lot of attention towards the design, not that much real features discussed.
Some extra standard toggles (screen rotation, brightness slider, flashlight,...) but these were very easy to add before anyway.

All in all looks great, has some more color than the previous design which is nice. I get fed up with all the flat white/pastel "design" these days.

The Nexus 5 runs it like a boss apparently, which is to be expected as it's still a pretty high-end device in terms of power.

Chris Type R

8,021 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Looks evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

Quite like the look of the "Screenpin" function for children's games.

ZesPak

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24,427 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Chris Type R said:
Looks evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

Quite like the look of the "Screenpin" function for children's games.
yes
Though in "profiles" you could do a lot more (ie allow a couple of games/apps).

Does seem odd that they could have added some more security to the screen pin rather than have it a small combination.

Chris Type R

8,021 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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ZesPak said:
yes
Though in "profiles" you could do a lot more (ie allow a couple of games/apps).

Does seem odd that they could have added some more security to the screen pin rather than have it a small combination.
I have profiles configured on the tablet, and the 3 year old still manages to fiddle with the task bar, brightness, re-positioning shortcuts, etc

I know there are 3rd party solutions to this, but I'm hoping that ScreenPin adds an easy to use, robust app lock.

Irrotational

1,577 posts

188 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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My understanding of 5 is that it is a lot about the UI and design of that...and making something work from a 65" tv down to a smartwatch...

I don't know if there will be a lot of visible additional functionality....I think a lot of it will be the UI plus under the hood API changes.

The UI looks cool - I'm looking forwards to it. They spent a ton of time on it - watch their 45 minute "material design" presentation by Duarte.

probedb

824 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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It's switched to ART so every device should run faster. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8231/a-closer-look-a...

I think you can switch on Kit Kat but you do so at your own risk as not everything is guaranteed to work.

ZesPak

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Tuesday 28th October 2014
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probedb said:
It's switched to ART so every device should run faster. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8231/a-closer-look-a...

I think you can switch on Kit Kat but you do so at your own risk as not everything is guaranteed to work.
I've had it running on the N5 for months as a daily phone and it was perfectly stable.

8bit

4,859 posts

155 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Any idea how you go about switching to ART on a 4.x device? I've got a Toshiba AT300 tablet that could do with a bit of a speed-up.

I'm planning on getting a Nexus 9 when they're out, looking forward to Lollipop.

probedb

824 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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ZesPak said:
I've had it running on the N5 for months as a daily phone and it was perfectly stable.
Good to know thanks smile

8bit said:
Any idea how you go about switching to ART on a 4.x device? I've got a Toshiba AT300 tablet that could do with a bit of a speed-up.
In stock 4.4.4 it's under:

Settings -> Developer options (make sure they're turned on) -> Select Runtime

I need my phone this week but will give it a go at the weekend I think smile

Corso Marche

1,718 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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I've been running ART since last March on my N5. Never an issue. Unless that 'Google Bookmarks Sync Has Stopped Working' dialog I get occasionally is linked to it.

BUT; ART on all 4.x.x versions is not the final and full implementation. The proper implementation of ART is in 5.0 only. Hence the performance gains and battery improvements which are being associated with 5.0

AJB88

12,377 posts

171 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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I ran ART on my Nexus 5 and it was good, Running ART on my HTC One M8 now but it gets alot lower quadrant score, battery seems a little worse and some apps like Facebook stutter.

Some of the new "Material design" apps have started coming through the play store now like Google Play Music, the Play Store itself etc, also got the Lollipop keyboard installed.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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I have Lollipop (developer preview) installed on my Nexus 7 2013. I am not sure in general use that the actual speed is much faster than Kit Kat. What Google have done is added smoothed out transitions so it's appears and feels faster. It's a user perception thing rather than a raw speed thing.


TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Shame the runtime option isn't available on 4.4.3 as my HTC One M7 is starting to run a bit slower these days

8bit

4,859 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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TheAngryDog said:
Shame the runtime option isn't available on 4.4.3 as my HTC One M7 is starting to run a bit slower these days
I can't find the developer options at all on mine!

Mr.Jimbo

2,082 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Go into Settings>About>Software Information>More and tap "Build Number" a few times, you'll get a pop up saying "press 3 more times to become developer", 2, 1 etc, then you'll get a box telling you you're now a developer, go back and developer options will have appeared near the bottom of the settings list.

8bit

4,859 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Sneaky, thanks for that. Don't see "Select Runtime" in there though, guess I'm SOL for this device, unless it ever gets Lollipop.

ZesPak

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24,427 posts

196 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Anybody wants to have a pool as to when they are going to release the first bug fix version (5.0.1 or the like)?

Within two weeks? biggrin

Otispunkmeyer

12,580 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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my M8 has only just this morning received the 4.4.4 update. hoping for quick turn around to 5!

igiveup

2,875 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Otispunkmeyer said:
my M8 has only just this morning received the 4.4.4 update. hoping for quick turn around to 5!
Ive seen a few sites suggesting the HTC M8 will get 5.0 in Jan/Feb 2015. So your recent update may well tie that in.

FurryExocet

3,011 posts

181 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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For some reason I thought this was supposed to be out now for Nexus devices, but so far only preview builds.