Apple obsession or delusion
Discussion
Lost soul said:
Yazar said:
George111 said:
If you look at the quality of a Mabook Pro at £1300 and a basic Dell laptop at £400 the Apple is so, so much better,
Is it just over 3 times better? 
If' I'd specced it with the 512G SSD and the 16GB of RAM my Pro has it would have cost about three quarters of what the Mac cost me.
There is definitely an Apple premium...but it isn't as big as people think. Apple are much like Porsche. They don't make a slow one and they don't make a cheap one either.
I have an HTC One M8..because it was much better than an iPhone 5 and I'm not overly impressed by the iPhone 6.
I have a Nexus 7...because it does all I need and it's a better eReader than an iPad Air
But I have a 15" MacBook Pro Retina...because there is absolutely NO substitute. There is quite literally no other laptop that has the mix of form & function that the MBP has. So in this area I don't think there is any Apple delusion - it's just the best of breed.
I have a Nexus 7...because it does all I need and it's a better eReader than an iPad Air
But I have a 15" MacBook Pro Retina...because there is absolutely NO substitute. There is quite literally no other laptop that has the mix of form & function that the MBP has. So in this area I don't think there is any Apple delusion - it's just the best of breed.
Junior Bianno said:
But I have a 15" MacBook Pro Retina...because there is absolutely NO substitute. There is quite literally no other laptop that has the mix of form & function that the MBP has. So in this area I don't think there is any Apple delusion - it's just the best of breed.
I am not sure I want this Feature though 130R said:
t was a response to Apple being like "Porsche", all in one desktops are generally terrible.
We get it. You've built some amazing windows gaming PC that uses dry ice to calm the CPU you've over clocked to within an inch of its life 
Personally now I don't game (I did in the days when over clocking your Opteron 146 was all the rage) and my work use macs, I had never used one before May this year and it took a while to get used to it. Some things are annoying (screenshot for example) but generally I'm very impressed with the MacBook Air and it's a lovely product to use. The design and materials are part of the appeal for me, like most of their products they're a joy to use and touch/feel/look.
audi321 said:
ZesPak said:
Took me all of 5secs to find:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/lap...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/lap...
That'll have you a low spec MBP with the amazing amount of 4GB RAM and stuff.
anonymous said:
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Tick in every box.Being the archetypal PHer (big build, company director) my company has just been influenced (I am the Finance Director, the Managing Director and the Mild Mannered Janitor) to realise it NEEDS a 5K Mac.
Happens to coincide with my previous machine (MBP) having completed its depreciation, Costco having pretty fabulous deal on now and I'm just considering my next VAT payment.
I couldn't find a reason not to - but the main reasons do include vanity and ego. Can't wait for delivery!
Vizsla said:
My mate (management consultancy) has just upgraded his office system (3 users) to Office 365 (fair enough) but insists that he wanted/needed Apple hardware as, quote, 'it's much better than Microsoft/Windows systems, it's state of the art, much faster, whereas Windows (Dell, HP, Compaq etc etc) is old technology, really clunky' (eh?)
He bought 2 large TV-size Apple screens with all the works built into them (I'm not a techie, no idea of the model), these cost around £2K each and he also needs ?Parallels so that he can run Office 365. He does no graphics work, nor any CAD/CAM, nor any other 'demanding' apps, just Outlook, Word, Excel i.e. straightforward billy-basic WP stuff.
Question: is he in any way correct in his almost religious faith in Apple, or just a fashion victim? I suspect I know the answer (he can be a bit of an 'Eleven-eriffe' at times!), just need some opinion from you IT gurus.
fashion victim; especially as Apple hardware is now indinstinguishable from high quality windows / Linux boxes - OSx is effectively just a nice UI'd version of one of the Unix flavours He bought 2 large TV-size Apple screens with all the works built into them (I'm not a techie, no idea of the model), these cost around £2K each and he also needs ?Parallels so that he can run Office 365. He does no graphics work, nor any CAD/CAM, nor any other 'demanding' apps, just Outlook, Word, Excel i.e. straightforward billy-basic WP stuff.
Question: is he in any way correct in his almost religious faith in Apple, or just a fashion victim? I suspect I know the answer (he can be a bit of an 'Eleven-eriffe' at times!), just need some opinion from you IT gurus.
back in the mid 90s - early 2000s at the end of the 68k era and into the PPC era Apple were ahead of the game
lbc said:
It's simple....
If you don't like computers buy Apple.
If you have a brain that works, buy a Microsoft PC or Android phone.
Close but not quite thereIf you don't like computers buy Apple.
If you have a brain that works, buy a Microsoft PC or Android phone.
I have a brain that works and i can fix and do s
t that most IT geeks could never even dream of.If you said
lbc said:
It's simple....
If you don't like computers buy Apple.
If you have a brain that works with computers, buy a Microsoft PC or Android phone.
I would agree with you 100%If you don't like computers buy Apple.
If you have a brain that works with computers, buy a Microsoft PC or Android phone.
Computers bore the crap out of me
Got talking about this thread to a guy who I work with who is also a bit of an Apple fanboy since changing over a couple of years. I told him to bring in his Mac laptop so I could have a look at it and see what all the fuss was about, so he did. Don't know what model it was, it was just yer average looking laptop but with a smaller than average screen (less than 15.4" anyway), has an i5 2.5 gig processor and 4 gig of ram, and an gimmicky illuminated Apple symbol on the lid which he went on about far too much. So after asking him what's so special about it and getting the standard responses "it's quality/well-built/doesn't get viruses" etc, the most he could come up with was fancy finger movements on the track pad that do stuff that Windows laptops do not, eg. 4 fingers to the side makes it change to the next running program on your task bar. Well, wow. Just wow. That's sold it to me then! And the price he paid for this 2 years ago? £1100 for an average spec laptop. ELEVENTY HUNDRED POUNDS! 
All that jazz said:
Got talking about this thread to a guy who I work with who is also a bit of an Apple fanboy since changing over a couple of years. I told him to bring in his Mac laptop so I could have a look at it and see what all the fuss was about, so he did. Don't know what model it was, it was just yer average looking laptop but with a smaller than average screen (less than 15.4" anyway), has an i5 2.5 gig processor and 4 gig of ram, and an gimmicky illuminated Apple symbol on the lid which he went on about far too much. So after asking him what's so special about it and getting the standard responses "it's quality/well-built/doesn't get viruses" etc, the most he could come up with was fancy finger movements on the track pad that do stuff that Windows laptops do not, eg. 4 fingers to the side makes it change to the next running program on your task bar. Well, wow. Just wow. That's sold it to me then! And the price he paid for this 2 years ago? £1100 for an average spec laptop. ELEVENTY HUNDRED POUNDS!
Not a fanboy if that's all he came up with! Although the illuminated apple logo on the lid is worth EVERY PENNY!okgo said:
The purchase price is almost irrelevant (providing you can afford it in the first place) because the residual value of any apple product is such that it is a better buy than most of its competitors as it's still worth a considerable amount some way down the line.
Maybe if you're buying personally, but as a business I would say the residual value is irrelevant. We've bought a few dozen Macs, MBPs, Pros over the past decade, and never sold one of them. They're a bit rough round the edges by the time we're finished with them, data security is a worry, and to be honest it's just too much hassle. We get a good 3/4 years use out them though, and in general reliability has been amazing. They just go on and on - the power demands of the ever evolving Creative Suite is the main driver for change.We do have a lovely Mac museum in the basement
Don said:
Lost soul said:
Yazar said:
George111 said:
If you look at the quality of a Mabook Pro at £1300 and a basic Dell laptop at £400 the Apple is so, so much better,
Is it just over 3 times better? If' I'd specced it with the 512G SSD and the 16GB of RAM my Pro has it would have cost about three quarters of what the Mac cost me.
There is definitely an Apple premium...but it isn't as big as people think. Apple are much like Porsche. They don't make a slow one and they don't make a cheap one either.
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