Anyone know how to set up a graphics card properly ?

[Jinx]

All that jazz said:

No idea to both questions. I just bought it from the shop and turned it on. It's only about 6 months old and was custom built so one would expect that the chipset drivers are the latest ones and they would presumably also know how to plug in some power to the card.

@ the other guy, yes the screen is to the edges.

It's going back to the shop (again) later this week but I expect I'll get the standard response of "we can't find anything wrong with it" like they said last time I had monitor issues. Are there any other compatible and comparable spec gfx cards to suit a Gigabyte Z87-D3HP motherboard? Lost confidence in this GTX760. I've had nothing but problems with poor clarity ever since I bought it and that's despite going through 3 different monitors, different OSs and different cables.

DVI-D would be better for clarity than HDMI - I suspect the scaling is wrong (or the overscan/underscan). In the nVidia control panel have you selected a TV output scale (1080p) rather than the 1920x1080 display resolution?

[All that jazz]

Jinx said:

DVI-D would be better for clarity than HDMI - I suspect the scaling is wrong (or the overscan/underscan). In the nVidia control panel have you selected a TV output scale (1080p) rather than the 1920x1080 display resolution?

Not that I'm aware of but I can't find any section where both of those options exist. It's set to 1080p 1980x1080 as you can see.

http://imgur.com/NQW933H

[All that jazz]

ash73 said:

Check overscan/scale settings, what does it say under desktop size/position?

http://imgur.com/AahRMnM
http://imgur.com/8R1eypG

[All that jazz]

Jinx said:

DVI-D would be better for clarity than HDMI - I suspect the scaling is wrong (or the overscan/underscan). In the nVidia control panel have you selected a TV output scale (1080p) rather than the 1920x1080 display resolution?

There is only VGA and HDMI connections on this screen.

[essayer]

All that jazz said:

http://imgur.com/AahRMnM
http://imgur.com/8R1eypG

Why is it doing any scaling? You are running the Windows resolution at the native resolution of the monitor, I assume?
If it's trying to 'scale' 1920x1080 to 1920x1080 I can understand why you might see some visual oddities.

Can you turn off the scaling completely?

[All that jazz]

essayer said:

Why is it doing any scaling? You are running the Windows resolution at the native resolution of the monitor, I assume?
If it's trying to 'scale' 1920x1080 to 1920x1080 I can understand why you might see some visual oddities.

Can you turn off the scaling completely?

I've no idea, that's the default setting (aspect ratio). I've set it to 'no scaling' and applied the setting but it's made absolutely no difference. Everything is still pixelated and jagged.

[deckster]

All that jazz said:

I've no idea, that's the default setting (aspect ratio). I've set it to 'no scaling' and applied the setting but it's made absolutely no difference. Everything is still pixelated and jagged.

Just to be clear here, are you complaining about the desktop display that you've posted in the screenshots? As that looks fine to me.

Or is it only in games that you get the 'pixelated and jagged' look?

[All that jazz]

deckster said:

Just to be clear here, are you complaining about the desktop display that you've posted in the screenshots? As that looks fine to me.

Or is it only in games that you get the 'pixelated and jagged' look?

Mainly games and videos, images etc.

Open this full screen and look at the lines where the brown blocks meet the cream blocks in this Minecraft screenshot.

http://imgur.com/KQqUVRQ

There's no way that's normal and I don't get it when playing on my laptop, nor my previous tower PC which had cheap as chips onboard graphics, not a £200 gaming card.

[The_Jackal]

The other question is what kind of shop "custom built" your PC.
Is it a reputable known supplier or just a local Pc repair shop.
If the graphics are plainly jaggy in a game, the card must be faulty and needs to be replaced.
There is no reason why the graphics wouldn't look right with the card settings reset to default.
I have an R7 260X (a lesser card) and my graphics do not look like you describe.

Can you take a screenshot ingame to describe what you mean.

[Zod]

Jinx said:

All that jazz said:

No idea to both questions. I just bought it from the shop and turned it on. It's only about 6 months old and was custom built so one would expect that the chipset drivers are the latest ones and they would presumably also know how to plug in some power to the card.

@ the other guy, yes the screen is to the edges.

It's going back to the shop (again) later this week but I expect I'll get the standard response of "we can't find anything wrong with it" like they said last time I had monitor issues. Are there any other compatible and comparable spec gfx cards to suit a Gigabyte Z87-D3HP motherboard? Lost confidence in this GTX760. I've had nothing but problems with poor clarity ever since I bought it and that's despite going through 3 different monitors, different OSs and different cables.

DVI-D would be better for clarity than HDMI - I suspect the scaling is wrong (or the overscan/underscan). In the nVidia control panel have you selected a TV output scale (1080p) rather than the 1920x1080 display resolution?

DVI-D and HDMI will carry exactly the same signal to the monitor.

[Shadow R1]

This is a really odd fault.

Checks i would go through.

Another source into that monitor for example a laptop, is the image still poor ?
I note you have tried 2 other monitors on the pc.

Change the pc from hdmi to a vga lead, any improvement ?

In the nvida control panel is the logo displayed correctly ?


The question above is valid, as the screen grabs look fine, can you get a screen shot when its playing up ?

Perform a reset to default in the nvida control panel.

Press the restore button from that page, make any difference ?

Chances are the shop you brought it from has already done all of that, if that is the case its not something that will be easily solved on a forum.

[All that jazz]

The_Jackal said:

The other question is what kind of shop "custom built" your PC.
Is it a reputable known supplier or just a local Pc repair shop.
If the graphics are plainly jaggy in a game, the card must be faulty and needs to be replaced.
There is no reason why the graphics wouldn't look right with the card settings reset to default.
I have an R7 260X (a lesser card) and my graphics do not look like you describe.

Can you take a screenshot ingame to describe what you mean.

The image link in my post above yours shows it ingame. But I don't know if you'll see the same as me as obviously you'll be looking at it through your own gfx card and not mine so it may look absolutely fine on your screen. Suffice to say that the edges of those brown and cream blocks have stepped edges on them and not smooth lines.

The shop is CCL, a well known PC component and hardware company in the north of England. I would have said "reputable" as well, but my experiences with them have been far from it from their continuing denials that there is nothing wrong with my PC and "they all do that sir" responses.

@ the other guy, as I've said already, all the settings are on default. I've already done uninstalls and reinstalls of the card but it's made 0 difference. The 'adjust image settings with preview' is set to 'let the 3D application decide' and the spinning logo looks fine on that setting with no noticeable aliasing or jaggedness. And yes I am clicking 'apply' when altering any settings in case you were wondering if I really could be that thick!

VGA lead no improvement and my other 2 monitors don't do anything either. I'd ruled out the monitor and lead already from some basic testing.

[deckster]

All that jazz said:

Open this full screen and look at the lines where the brown blocks meet the cream blocks in this Minecraft screenshot.

http://imgur.com/KQqUVRQ

There's no way that's normal and I don't get it when playing on my laptop, nor my previous tower PC which had cheap as chips onboard graphics, not a £200 gaming card.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that actually yes, that is totally normal. Do a Google image search for Minecraft and every single screenshot has jaggies - it's entirely usual and unavoidable with something like Minecraft that is lots of straight lines. Particularly when you're sitting right next to a decent quality screen, 1080p is nowhere near good enough resolution to render jaggie-less lines. Do you have comparative shots from your old PC and laptop? I would love to see what they look in a side-by-side shootout.

I can't comment on World of Tanks as don't have it, but I have a reasonable catalogue of games and they all without exception show some jagginess and pixellation at times (1080p at the native resolution of my 24" screen, GTX770 at probably 40-50cm distance). Anti-aliasing is an attempt to get around this but as you've pointed out, has to be done subtly otherwise you just get a washed-out, blurry mess.

Finally, compressed video is again pretty much always poor quality if you sit up close and in particular 90% of streaming content (Youtube etc.) is absolutely terrible, both down to poor quality cameras and massive compression. Do you have any examples of Youtube videos that you consider to be good and/or bad so that we can take a look?

[Jinx]

Zod said:

DVI-D and HDMI will carry exactly the same signal to the monitor.

Yes if set up that way - HDMI tends to default to HD (1080p) whilst DVI-D will default to my native 1920x1200 in my experience.

[Jinx]

All that jazz said:

Mainly games and videos, images etc.

Open this full screen and look at the lines where the brown blocks meet the cream blocks in this Minecraft screenshot.

http://imgur.com/KQqUVRQ

There's no way that's normal and I don't get it when playing on my laptop, nor my previous tower PC which had cheap as chips onboard graphics, not a £200 gaming card.

Have you cranked up the MSAA? (multi sampled anti aliasing)

[All that jazz]

Jinx said:

Have you cranked up the MSAA? (multi sampled anti aliasing)

No, that's on default settings. There's no setting for that within the game fyi. The game settings for the graphics card are on default too.

[Altrezia]

I'd say that looks about right for minecraft.

Try a 'proper' game and it should look alright. You could force MSAA with the nvidia drivers, but remember to only do it for MC, not all apps (as you may find you get reduced performance if left on).

[Jinx]

All that jazz said:

No, that's on default settings. There's no setting for that within the game fyi. The game settings for the graphics card are on default too.

NVidia should be able to override the game settings to some degree (works well in things like ME2) so try setting up a minecraft profile.

[All that jazz]

I've already done that, it makes no difference. Everything looks pixelated and jagged. Doesn't matter what it is, Minecraft, WoT, other games, videos, it's all blurry, jagged and pixelated. That isn't right for a £200 GPU I don't care what anyone says. Playing a 1080 60 raw video looks more like 360p it's so low quality and shimmery. Can't even read text on the video when in full screen it's that bad.

[contractor]

Try https://unigine.com/products/heaven/download/
How does that look with low settings?