Sky broadband speeds, what a joke!

Sky broadband speeds, what a joke!

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illmonkey

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18,217 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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I moved into a small village 6 months ago, got Sky to install a new phone line and broadband, guestimated speeds of 8mb, I connected at 20mb. It was slow to begin with, but picked up, I could surf and download a few things no problem. Then after 6 weeks, it just grinded to a halt, web pages taking minutes to load. I logged the issue with Sky and they done something, it got a little better and I forgot about it (life gets busy, eh?).

I decided to call them up again in October as it was getting very fustrating working from home, we went through all of the stupid troubleshooting (I'm in IT, so understand how it works) etc. They said someone would look at the cabinet and my cabling (outside), they found something hurrah! It was still crap. More phone calls, spending 30+ minutes on hold and then spending the same again doing more of the same tests.

They said they'd try some more things and come back to me, it was still slow, so they booked a engineer visit, you know, wait in for 6 hours and he'll maybe turn up. The day came and he found nothing wrong with our setup using his diagnostic tool, but as soon as the router was put in, it went down hill quickly. So, he advised a new one. Even though I can get a good 12mb when testing at 5am or other silly times.

I called sky, long story short wanted £70 for a new one. I went nuts! I initially logged this issue well within the warranty time, but as it's since expired, I'm to pay. I argued and spoke to managers etc. Maybe 4 phone calls later I got one agreed for free.

Upon it arriving I set it up, plugged the laptop in and went to task with testing it. 0.4mb. Wowwwwwwwwwwww! Same issue. So, an other call to them (I think this is number 40?) and I'm told that if there has been 2 site visits and 2 routers and I still have issues, there is nothing they'll do and it's down to contention in the village.

We all know they advertise upto 16mb, and you expect maybe half that, but to get 0.4 is discusting, then to tell me that is within their threshold for good service? What a joke. God knows how long I've sat on the phone to them and had to take (unpaid) time off work.

So, the connection in my village of 1100 people seem to all share a 12mb line between us. Fibre is scheduled soon, but as it'll be FTTC, I am not holding my breathe.

onlynik

3,978 posts

194 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Maybe move to another provider?

Many years ago, I was getting terrible speeds with Plusnet and moved to Nildram (as it was)

They both resold BT products, but Nildram was much faster. Might be worth changing to another ISP.

illmonkey

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18,217 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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That is the most fustrating part of it!

I renewed with Sky in Sept 2014, but they never sent a new router (they don't apparently). So I'm on a new contract but with a router that is out of warranty (how I got them to send one for free).

But I'm tied to Sky until Sept 2015, they won't allow me to cancel the contract as I'm above their threashold for it (0.3mb)!


andy-xr

13,204 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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The thing with Sky is that they hardcode the router. I'd be thinking of changing to a provider who lets you run whatever you want, ideally they dont provide you a router at all, so you choose the one you want. The SR101 is a pos

If you really really need good internet, a 10mb leased line can be had for £3kpa, 100meg not much more. You could be enterprising and buy a 100 meg LL and reslice it and sell to your neighbours smile

onlynik

3,978 posts

194 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Sadly I can't offer any other help, I know after my last experience of BT that I'll never use them again. When we moved house and didn't take their services to a new house. I needed to provide them with a reason for moving. Apparently not liking their service and wanting a different supplier was not an option. Their operative kept telling me that they were cheaper than Sky, no matter how many times I told him I wasn't going to Sky. Even told me it would cost me £30 to cancel my ADSL line with them.

Is it a SKY LLU exchange?

illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,217 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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my original router was a 101, now it's a 102. I no longer work from home, so not as important, but still barely useable.

Not got any LLU!

It is possible to use any router, you need to sniff the packets in a certain way to obtain the UN & PW, which then works in a different router, but it was still slow!

Cockey

1,384 posts

229 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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I was helping a colleague arrange BT broadband last week, and their initial test on his line came back with an estimated speed of between 0.25 - 1.6mbps biggrin He lives out in the middle of nowhere so I guess it's to be expected.

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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illmonkey said:
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Even though I can get a good 12mb when testing at 5am or other silly times.
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This suggests you have a high contention ratio.

I winder how many other Sky BB users there in your area with the same issues?


illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,217 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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TonyRPH said:
illmonkey said:
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Even though I can get a good 12mb when testing at 5am or other silly times.
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This suggests you have a high contention ratio.

I winder how many other Sky BB users there in your area with the same issues?
I know, but it's constant, so you've got to be going on 25+ people maxing it all out at the same time all the time.

It's a small village mainly with older people, I doubt they're all streaming 4k videos all day and night.

z4RRSchris99

11,332 posts

180 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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my sky went from 18 to less than 2..

I moved to BT fibre, it's rapid

tell sky to do one

illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,217 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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z4RRSchris99 said:
my sky went from 18 to less than 2..

I moved to BT fibre, it's rapid

tell sky to do one
You missed the bit about being in contract!

FourWheelDrift

88,572 posts

285 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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illmonkey said:
That is the most fustrating part of it!

I renewed with Sky in Sept 2014, but they never sent a new router (they don't apparently). So I'm on a new contract but with a router that is out of warranty (how I got them to send one for free).

But I'm tied to Sky until Sept 2015, they won't allow me to cancel the contract as I'm above their threashold for it (0.3mb)!
I've only given this a brief read but there might be something in the "The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and
Additional Charges) Regulations 2013" came into force in June 2014. To help you terminate the contract.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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illmonkey said:
I know, but it's constant, so you've got to be going on 25+ people maxing it all out at the same time all the time.

It's a small village mainly with older people, I doubt they're all streaming 4k videos all day and night.
If it's a small village, you may well be contending with other small villages (if there are any others near enough...)


gr1340

979 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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You can extract the username/password from the sky router:
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/extracting-sky-rout...

I had to do this some years ago (although it was a much easier process back then) and used a different router.

illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,217 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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I need to call them back and argue the toss about the contract.

Not too many small villages about, but I get your point.

Do people not read posts anymore? I've already got the UN&PW and tested a Netgear router, still slow.


Silverbullet767

10,714 posts

207 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Might be worth giving one of these a go.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BT-Compatible-I-Plate-Inte...

It's worked for a few friends.

illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,217 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Silverbullet767 said:
Might be worth give one of these a go.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BT-Compatible-I-Plate-Inte...

It's worked for a few friends.
But I do get good speeds at silly times of the day, so clearly nothing wrong with the connection. Just contention.

We've only 1 socket in the house and the last BT 'engineer' put a new wall socket on.

gtidriver

3,358 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Over 30years my parents have been with bt. There router failed a few months ago and bt would not rollover on the £35 charge for the router, annoyingly my mum just paid it..

illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,217 posts

199 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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They've said I can cancel my broadband with them. Great, then what do I do? Wait for fibre (within a month) and sign up again, or just keep paying.

We've lived with it this long, and its £7/month. So may as well tick over until fibre comes.

The misssus tried to watch a 2 minute video last night, must have taken 10. Buffer, pause unpause to free it up. jumps about etc. Useless.

Road2Ruin

5,251 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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illmonkey said:
I moved into a small village 6 months ago, got Sky to install a new phone line and broadband, guestimated speeds of 8mb, I connected at 20mb. It was slow to begin with, but picked up, I could surf and download a few things no problem. Then after 6 weeks, it just grinded to a halt, web pages taking minutes to load. I logged the issue with Sky and they done something, it got a little better and I forgot about it (life gets busy, eh?).

I decided to call them up again in October as it was getting very fustrating working from home, we went through all of the stupid troubleshooting (I'm in IT, so understand how it works) etc. They said someone would look at the cabinet and my cabling (outside), they found something hurrah! It was still crap. More phone calls, spending 30+ minutes on hold and then spending the same again doing more of the same tests.

They said they'd try some more things and come back to me, it was still slow, so they booked a engineer visit, you know, wait in for 6 hours and he'll maybe turn up. The day came and he found nothing wrong with our setup using his diagnostic tool, but as soon as the router was put in, it went down hill quickly. So, he advised a new one. Even though I can get a good 12mb when testing at 5am or other silly times.

I called sky, long story short wanted £70 for a new one. I went nuts! I initially logged this issue well within the warranty time, but as it's since expired, I'm to pay. I argued and spoke to managers etc. Maybe 4 phone calls later I got one agreed for free.

Upon it arriving I set it up, plugged the laptop in and went to task with testing it. 0.4mb. Wowwwwwwwwwwww! Same issue. So, an other call to them (I think this is number 40?) and I'm told that if there has been 2 site visits and 2 routers and I still have issues, there is nothing they'll do and it's down to contention in the village.

We all know they advertise upto 16mb, and you expect maybe half that, but to get 0.4 is discusting, then to tell me that is within their threshold for good service? What a joke. God knows how long I've sat on the phone to them and had to take (unpaid) time off work.

So, the connection in my village of 1100 people seem to all share a 12mb line between us. Fibre is scheduled soon, but as it'll be FTTC, I am not holding my breathe.
If you are in I.T. then surely you are aware it's Mb no mb? A world of difference. .that is of course unless you actually meant mb...which really is slow! wink