Making my DVD collection digital
Discussion
RizzoTheRat said:
Yes and no, torrents upload as well as download, so he'd be braking copyright by uploading even if he's no downloading. The cases that have been brought against people torrenting have all been about uploading not downloading.
You can set upload limits though and even set the upload limit to 0. Just some torrent programs then limit your download speed.How many tracks on each DVD do you actually listen to . I've found through the years that some tracks are just there to pad out the compilation . Always been the same. When cassettes became popular on car radios,I used to make my own tapes from vynll and I was always amazed at how few tracks I honestly thought I'd like to listen to in the car. Then again 120 DVD ( IF FULL, but seldom are) would take nearly 600GB of space.
[quote=Who me ?]How many tracks on each DVD do you actually listen to . I've found through the years that some tracks are just there to pad out the compilation . Always been the same. When cassettes became popular on car radios,I used to make my own tapes from vynll and I was always amazed at how few tracks I honestly thought I'd like to listen to in the car. Then again 120 DVD ( IF FULL, but seldom are) would take nearly 600GB of space.
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DVDs and CDs are different.
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DVDs and CDs are different.
RizzoTheRat said:
Yes and no, torrents upload as well as download, so he'd be braking copyright by uploading even if he's no downloading. The cases that have been brought against people torrenting have all been about uploading not downloading.
Nothing "yes and no" about it, downloading them again is breaking copyright law. Morally I don't see a problem with it and when I digitised my collection, I downloaded instead of ripping, but that is a personal choice.
I am going to be the odd man out and say don't bother. 4K films are on the way making anything in SD look dated in the same way as moving from tape to CD. It will also be much easier and quicker to download (pretty much) any movie on demand. While 3D has not made much of an impact, there is alot more weight behind 4K content.
for teh streaming, i use Boxee boxes and a NAS to store all the media ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxee_Box
although i see that it is no longer supported ... mind you mine still seems to work great, wonder what is teh current compairable solution?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxee_Box
although i see that it is no longer supported ... mind you mine still seems to work great, wonder what is teh current compairable solution?
SlidingSideways said:
Defeating the copy protection is a non-issue, both Handbrake and MakeMKV will do this easily in just a couple of clicks. Not just for DVD, but for BluRay as well.
How you rip will be determined by how much storage you have and what you want to use to play the resulting files.
If you have lots of storuage, and your client can play MKV files, then use MakeMKV to rip. This is quick (pretty much just the time it takes to copy the data off the disk) and will give you an exact copy of the movie, no compression etc... These won't play on Apple devices though.
If you've got Apple stuff you'd like to be able to play the videos on, or limited storage and would like to compress the files down a bit, then use Handbrake to create an MP4 version. This is significantly slower as the file is essentially read a frame at a time, compressed and written to the output file. For BR rips this can take many hours for each film.
The upside is that the output file is much smaller (<5Gb compared to an uncompressed ~20Gb BR rip) and can be played by pretty much anything.
If you're going to use Handbrake, you can feed it MKV files rather than doing it a disk at a time. So you can rip a load of disks using MakeMKV and then add them to Handbrakes queue and just let it chug away transcoding them.
Not heard of anywhere you can upload the resulting videos to the cloud and play them easily, so would be interested to hear if such a service exists.
MakeMkv and handbrake are the 2 programmes I use, and I've copied many more discs than 120. Would thoroughly recommend. How you rip will be determined by how much storage you have and what you want to use to play the resulting files.
If you have lots of storuage, and your client can play MKV files, then use MakeMKV to rip. This is quick (pretty much just the time it takes to copy the data off the disk) and will give you an exact copy of the movie, no compression etc... These won't play on Apple devices though.
If you've got Apple stuff you'd like to be able to play the videos on, or limited storage and would like to compress the files down a bit, then use Handbrake to create an MP4 version. This is significantly slower as the file is essentially read a frame at a time, compressed and written to the output file. For BR rips this can take many hours for each film.
The upside is that the output file is much smaller (<5Gb compared to an uncompressed ~20Gb BR rip) and can be played by pretty much anything.
If you're going to use Handbrake, you can feed it MKV files rather than doing it a disk at a time. So you can rip a load of disks using MakeMKV and then add them to Handbrakes queue and just let it chug away transcoding them.
Not heard of anywhere you can upload the resulting videos to the cloud and play them easily, so would be interested to hear if such a service exists.
No fans of AnyDVD? Cracks everything going and runs in the background. I then use the old and reliable DVD Shrink to extract the film, leaving the tile screens and extras uncopied. Simple GUI, easy to use.
I thought this discussion would be frowned upon, so originally kept names of programs out of it.
I thought this discussion would be frowned upon, so originally kept names of programs out of it.
Gingerbread Man said:
[quote=Who me ?]How many tracks on each DVD do you actually listen to . I've found through the years that some tracks are just there to pad out the compilation . Always been the same. When cassettes became popular on car radios,I used to make my own tapes from vynll and I was always amazed at how few tracks I honestly thought I'd like to listen to in the car. Then again 120 DVD ( IF FULL, but seldom are) would take nearly 600GB of space.
DVDs and CDs are different.SlidingSideways said:
You can remux BR MKV files directly to MP4 with no loss of quality using an app called Subler. No waiting for Handbrake and no loss of quality.
Its mac only though at the moment.
Another thing to consider is that shifting full sized BR rips around will require a decent network. Probably not advisable over wireless, so your client device will most likely need to be wired.
Can you remux to mp4 even for VC1 encoded films? I keep the mp4 versions for streaming so lower quality is fine. The mkv versions are just for local playback where an mp4 container is not really needed anyway. Besides, I believe Plex can remux on the fly.Its mac only though at the moment.
Another thing to consider is that shifting full sized BR rips around will require a decent network. Probably not advisable over wireless, so your client device will most likely need to be wired.
Yes, BD rips take ages to copy over the network. I have 500mbps homeplugs and find it too slow still. One day I will get a proper gigabit LAN installed.
I've downloaded copies of my existing DVD/BluRay collection onto my PC, and now I play them via Wi-fi onto any TV in the house using a mixture of ChromeCast & Airstream (windows) using my Android mobile as the controller. They recently changed the copyright law so that you may now legally have 1 copy digitally of anything you have in a disc form. I find both Show Box & HD Cinema (Android apps) to be pretty good at sourcing said films, and they don't appear to use torrents so perhaps no uploading worries. I'm personally keeping to 720p for file size considerations, which still look ok even on my large (50 inch) TV, if you want to go 1080 then the file size will double or more and the storage capacity will need to be considerably greater. I don't miss having to piss about with discs & menus and all the bulls
t you have to go through before you can actually watch the film.
Some dvds/Blurays you get now have Ultraviolet capability which means you get a digital copy to, although you can only play it on propriety software and it's DRM'd which reduces its usability, either way I doubt if we'll still be using physical discs for whatever comes after BluRay
t you have to go through before you can actually watch the film.Some dvds/Blurays you get now have Ultraviolet capability which means you get a digital copy to, although you can only play it on propriety software and it's DRM'd which reduces its usability, either way I doubt if we'll still be using physical discs for whatever comes after BluRay
techguyone said:
They recently changed the copyright law so that you may now legally have 1 copy digitally of anything you have in a disc form.
This supports that, and is quite a sensible step by the UK govt: https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright#persona...However this section suggests that ripping DVD/BR disks is still illegal as you have to circumvent the copy protection...
https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright#technol...
trooperiziz said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Yes and no, torrents upload as well as download, so he'd be braking copyright by uploading even if he's no downloading. The cases that have been brought against people torrenting have all been about uploading not downloading.
Nothing "yes and no" about it, downloading them again is breaking copyright law. Morally I don't see a problem with it and when I digitised my collection, I downloaded instead of ripping, but that is a personal choice.
The person(s) who upload it are breaking the law, but by downloading it you are simply acquiring a copy of material you already own - which is perfectly legal.
The law was changed on 1/10/14.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29448058
sgrimshaw said:
trooperiziz said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Yes and no, torrents upload as well as download, so he'd be braking copyright by uploading even if he's no downloading. The cases that have been brought against people torrenting have all been about uploading not downloading.
Nothing "yes and no" about it, downloading them again is breaking copyright law. Morally I don't see a problem with it and when I digitised my collection, I downloaded instead of ripping, but that is a personal choice.
The person(s) who upload it are breaking the law, but by downloading it you are simply acquiring a copy of material you already own - which is perfectly legal.
The law was changed on 1/10/14.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29448058
It is not legal to download a copy someone else has made, regardless of whether you own it already or not.
Another vote for makemkv rip a load of disks onto the laptop HD, then set up Handbrake to just chug away through a job list onto a 2TB mybooklive.
Plays direct to Samsung TV or via a Sony BD player which gives slightly more options. Can also stream over the Wifi to other devices.
Once converted and checked as OK then clear off the laptop HD for a new batch.
Mind you if the WD drive borked don't fancy doing it all again. Plus there's a load of work related incremental backups on there. Goes off to buy another drive.
Should I get a synology proper job. Hmmm.
Plays direct to Samsung TV or via a Sony BD player which gives slightly more options. Can also stream over the Wifi to other devices.
Once converted and checked as OK then clear off the laptop HD for a new batch.
Mind you if the WD drive borked don't fancy doing it all again. Plus there's a load of work related incremental backups on there. Goes off to buy another drive.
Should I get a synology proper job. Hmmm.
trooperiziz said:
You are reading into it what you want to read. That states that it is legal to make a copy of content that you already have. I.e. you can make your own copy and format shift it if you want to. Downloading it from another source isn't making your own copy. It's a pedantic difference, but when has the law ever been anything but pedantic
It is not legal to download a copy someone else has made, regardless of whether you own it already or not.
There is no evidence to suggest that it is illegal to download a copy made by someone else, but since you seem so sure it is perhaps you'd be so good as to share the source of your information.It is not legal to download a copy someone else has made, regardless of whether you own it already or not.
FiF said:
Mind you if the WD drive borked don't fancy doing it all again. Plus there's a load of work related incremental backups on there. Goes off to buy another drive.
I use a NAS for media server and backup, and then ever so often I back that up to a USB drive which I then leave at work. Cheaper than having a fancier RAID NAS and means it's protection against fire/theft/flood too.Gassing Station | Computers, Gadgets & Stuff | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff