Is my Hard Drive dead?

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trashbat

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153 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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This has turned into a bit of a bizarre episode hasn't it. Sorry OP!

I don't quite understand what you're after, though. I thought you were going to find a local place to do the chip swap?


Woody3

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204 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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I was/am (and no need to apologise smile).

But from my understanding, Marshalla is the chap most PH'ers use to recover their data, so I'd like to try this first, then if it's unsuccessful, I'll try swapping the chip over.

I think that is the best order...


trashbat

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Thursday 19th February 2015
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Fair enough I guess - but unless we've totally misidentified it, I don't think you can get away from the fundamental problem that it won't present itself to the system, so someone somewhere is going to have to meddle with hardware as you're already primed to do.

buggalugs

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237 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Sorry OP.

If the value of the contents is a few hours work and old car pics then by all means have a go. I am not sure that a chip like the one in the links referenced above will be found on a laptop hard drive because they're a lot smaller than those desktop size drives pictured in the info linked. You don't want to start desoldering random chips if there's any doubt about which is the right one as its a bit of a kill or cure type deal.

Make an assessment about the value of the contents and get a few quotes from professional services then decide how you want to move forwards. One place I've used before is called DataWreck in Stoke, they're small and at the cheaper end but they're good guys. I had someone send a drive off to umpteen different places once usually paying a fee for analysis each time and DW were the one place that actually took the time to call directly, and explain that the drive literally only contained a pile of scored platters and dust and they were wasting their time pimping it round. OK not an ideal result but they were the only ones to take the time rather than just firing it back with a 'no'.

trashbat

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153 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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buggalugs said:
Sorry OP.

If the value of the contents is a few hours work and old car pics then by all means have a go. I am not sure that a chip like the one in the links referenced above will be found on a laptop hard drive because they're a lot smaller than those desktop size drives pictured in the info linked. You don't want to start desoldering random chips if there's any doubt about which is the right one as its a bit of a kill or cure type deal.
Not to get into another round of pushing, but skim back through the thread. He's already bought a near-identical replacement board from a near-identical product. The chip transplant is a recognised method. I don't quite see what he can do any better.

Doctor Volt

336 posts

125 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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trashbat said:
ot to get into another round of pushing, but skim back through the thread. He's already bought a near-identical replacement board from a near-identical product. The chip transplant is a recognised method. I don't quite see what he can do any better.
The above is correct - At this stage Data Recovery is not the issue

A Hard Drive PCB swap/repair is the job in hand

The article below seems to verify what I thought may happen if replacing the PCB without swapping the NVRAM

http://hdat2.createforumhosting.com/data-recovery-...

Below is a copy and paste from the above link

Do not swap the PCBs because on most of those Hitachi drives you will also need to SWAP the NVRam chip on the PCB. It's particullar important because if you place a donnor PCB on the "damaged" drive there are chances that donnor PCB NVRam get's "altered" or "locked" and when you place the pcb back to the good donnor drive if might not work any more

This job is straight forward, the OP just needs someone to replace the PCB NVRAM

Data Decovery Companies are charging far too much money these days and there is no doubt that many Hard Drives sent away for Data Recovery do not require this procedure - Many hard Drives that have failed will only need a repair job done on them by a computer repair shop

All the below are charging far too much money

Garage Labour Charges = Scam

Supermarket Food Prices = Scam

Website Designer Labour Charges = Scam

Data Recovery Labour Charges = Scam

Life Is A Scam

Take your Hard Drive to a computer repair shop and ask them to replace the NVRAM, this is a very simple job

Dont be taken in by the Scammers - I detest Scammers and so should all of us honest people

buggalugs

9,243 posts

237 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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trashbat said:
buggalugs said:
Sorry OP.

If the value of the contents is a few hours work and old car pics then by all means have a go. I am not sure that a chip like the one in the links referenced above will be found on a laptop hard drive because they're a lot smaller than those desktop size drives pictured in the info linked. You don't want to start desoldering random chips if there's any doubt about which is the right one as its a bit of a kill or cure type deal.
Not to get into another round of pushing, but skim back through the thread. He's already bought a near-identical replacement board from a near-identical product. The chip transplant is a recognised method. I don't quite see what he can do any better.
I'm just saying that all the drives I've seen in the pictures of people doing the chip swaps were desktop drives with the same easily identifiable nvram chip - hold a laptop drive in your hand and tell me if you see any chips that look like that. All I'm saying is make an assessment before continuing.

Woody3

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Friday 27th February 2015
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Not having any luck finding anyone that does soldering in my area.

Any idea what terms I should use in Google?

trashbat

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153 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Woody3 said:
Not having any luck finding anyone that does soldering in my area.

Any idea what terms I should use in Google?
Have you tried asking in your regional forum on here?

Otherwise you want micro electronic repair.

Woody3

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Saturday 7th March 2015
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Thanks trashbat - and apologies, didn't see your reply.

Just asked in the regional section.

Woody3

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Saturday 4th April 2015
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Just thought I'd update this for people who may stumble across this thread in the future.

I got the chip swapped, and... it didn't work frown .

Thanks for all the advice anyway, at least I gave it a go!



So, now I'm after a new SATA HDD.

Can anyone advise on which one to get please?

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

132 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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While I can understand you will be wary of Hitachi Drives, you should find BackBlaze experience this informative.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/what-hard-drive-sho...


trashbat

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Saturday 4th April 2015
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Woody3 said:
Just thought I'd update this for people who may stumble across this thread in the future.

I got the chip swapped, and... it didn't work frown
Sorry things didn't work out. When you say didn't work, I take it that it still didn't appear in the BIOS at all?

Woody3

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Saturday 4th April 2015
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Yeah, it still says "not installed" on the BIOS screen unfortunately...

And thanks Martin - I will take a look at the link.

Are there any particular retailers I should use and is it better to have one that has Windows 8 installed or?