The New Macbook
Discussion
Matthen said:
red997 said:
I moved from Win to Mac about 18 months ago;
had a reasonably high end Dell machine (for work) which was about £1500 new and after 18 months of daily work use started to die, in all senses.
So I proved up a replacement - the mbp came in same price for the same spec, but with the better screen
So I bought a MacBook Pro yes it was 1499 with upgraded memory & SSD but hell does it shift - and still does 18 months from new - not a single crash, instant power up, runs everything (microshaft office & project)
I've been using a 'corporate' lenovo also love the past 18 months - and I have come so close to pushing it in the canal next to work so many times... Win 7 32 bit 2G ram - pathetic heap of s
te
anyway, I digress - VFM - I'd go with Mac every time - plus the iOS integration is seamless - password sharing etc we're rapidly becoming an apple household....
Try an Asus machine. had a reasonably high end Dell machine (for work) which was about £1500 new and after 18 months of daily work use started to die, in all senses.
So I proved up a replacement - the mbp came in same price for the same spec, but with the better screen
So I bought a MacBook Pro yes it was 1499 with upgraded memory & SSD but hell does it shift - and still does 18 months from new - not a single crash, instant power up, runs everything (microshaft office & project)
I've been using a 'corporate' lenovo also love the past 18 months - and I have come so close to pushing it in the canal next to work so many times... Win 7 32 bit 2G ram - pathetic heap of s
teanyway, I digress - VFM - I'd go with Mac every time - plus the iOS integration is seamless - password sharing etc we're rapidly becoming an apple household....
Zod said:
My MacBook Pro is nearly six years old and still works perfectly. I upgraded it to an SSD four years ago, but otherwise, nothing has changed, other than the annual OS X upgrade.
I have a 10-11 year old dell consumer 17" laptop that still runs and everything works fine, from this I conclude Dell are near twice as good as apple.I cant believe what people let apple get away with. Not chucking in 2 USB ports so they can sell £70 adaptors, obscene levels of profit doing it too.
RobDickinson said:
I cant believe what people let apple get away with. Not chucking in 2 USB ports so they can sell £70 adaptors, obscene levels of profit doing it too.
everyone said the same when apple launched the first imac without a floppy disk drive.I think I have plugged something in to a usb socket on my laptop maybe twice in the last 2 years- with encrypted pcs at work its much easier to use dropbox and icloud for importing files etc
RobDickinson said:
I have a 10-11 year old dell consumer 17" laptop that still runs and everything works fine, from this I conclude Dell are near twice as good as apple.
I cant believe what people let apple get away with. Not chucking in 2 USB ports so they can sell £70 adaptors, obscene levels of profit doing it too.
Give me your Dell for a day and it'll be destroyed. No Windows machine can handle a few hours or porn. I cant believe what people let apple get away with. Not chucking in 2 USB ports so they can sell £70 adaptors, obscene levels of profit doing it too.
No PCMCIA slot either, how will I use my gold card modem?
Some reviews in:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/04/the-2015-macb...
http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/9/8372335/12-inch-m...
No big surprises. CPU-bound benchmarks don't run brilliantly as the CPU throttles to stay within its thermal limits. You can look at numbers and say it's as quick as a 2011/2012 machine, although the GPU and storage are way faster than machines of that era.
As ever, if you fit the sort of usage that works well with this, if you can live the compromises, then it will be great for you. Otherwise buy a Macbook Pro and put up with the extra weight.
Some reviews in:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/04/the-2015-macb...
http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/9/8372335/12-inch-m...
No big surprises. CPU-bound benchmarks don't run brilliantly as the CPU throttles to stay within its thermal limits. You can look at numbers and say it's as quick as a 2011/2012 machine, although the GPU and storage are way faster than machines of that era.
As ever, if you fit the sort of usage that works well with this, if you can live the compromises, then it will be great for you. Otherwise buy a Macbook Pro and put up with the extra weight.
sawman said:
everyone said the same when apple launched the first imac without a floppy disk drive.
I think I have plugged something in to a usb socket on my laptop maybe twice in the last 2 years- with encrypted pcs at work its much easier to use dropbox and icloud for importing files etc
I'll have a look for your name on the list of P45s next time there's a hack then.I think I have plugged something in to a usb socket on my laptop maybe twice in the last 2 years- with encrypted pcs at work its much easier to use dropbox and icloud for importing files etc
You read dropbox T&Cs?
sjg said:
"a 236 ppi Retina display that's 2304 x 1440 pixels.... ...You can set the resolution all the way up to 1440 x 900...You can’t crank it up to the full resolution."Why? Screens generally look better at native resolution, so why bother installing a screen it cannot maximise?
I think I tend to agree with the general view that the mkII or mkIII of this will likely be the thing to have.
sawman said:
paranoid airbag said:
I'll have a look for your name on the list of P45s next time there's a hack then.
You read dropbox T&Cs?
I need to do better punctuation.You read dropbox T&Cs?
Don't use those for work file sharing. But I rarely use a USB stick these days for moving stuff between machines
Rawwr said:
Blown2CV said:
windows is st, and the laptops which runs windows are too. Pretty simple really.
Amazing.t, and the laptops which runs windows are too. Pretty simple really.t, reboots and reinstalls because it's CHEAP, and it runs on CHEAP hardware. So, if you if you're in that boat, you can kid yourself on it's fine (i.e. when it crashes you dismiss it as "that's what computers do") - then Macs look v expensive indeed. Just like if all you could afford is a diesel astra and you weren't that into cars, you might well feel more comfortable to decide it's fine for your needs, gets you from A to B; more expensive cars are pointless, and the people that buy them are usually dicks. I'd imagine the vast majority of the "windows is great, macs are a rip off" crowd have never even tried a mac. Don't get me wrong, I am typing this on a few year old recon lenovo laptop running win7, but i am hating every minute of it. Don't try and tell me "oh you should buy one of those new Asus laptops" or "maybe it's not configured correctly" or "you're doing something wrong" because I've had probably 30 different windows installs over the years (and a number of linux, but that's another topic) and one macbook which i had for about 18 months through work. Windows has never worked properly, the mac was f
king amazing. If I wasn't getting married next month I'd be straight on pre-ordering a new MBA. Yes Window may well meet your needs, but it's really f
king st. Blown2CV said:
not hard is it. People put up with windows many failings, the slowing down, the registry, crashing, running like st, reboots and reinstalls because it's CHEAP, and it runs on CHEAP hardware.
You must be a super fanboi if you think OS X doesn't have its problems.t, reboots and reinstalls because it's CHEAP, and it runs on CHEAP hardware. What exactly is the problem with the registry?
TonyToniTone said:
Blown2CV said:
not hard is it. People put up with windows many failings, the slowing down, the registry, crashing, running like st, reboots and reinstalls because it's CHEAP, and it runs on CHEAP hardware.
You must be a super fanboi if you think OS X doesn't have its problems.t, reboots and reinstalls because it's CHEAP, and it runs on CHEAP hardware. What exactly is the problem with the registry?
the registry is a s
t awful solution to the need to configure an OS, manage installs programs and so on. It fails to work properly because Windows fails to housekeep it properly. If you file things away by throwing them in the cupboard and banging the door shut before they fall out, sooner or later you need to spend a week sorting out the cupboard. Except the only way to do that in Windows is to throw the entire cupboard, contents and all, in a skip and buy a new one - taking a weekend to build it. Blown2CV said:
i don't think i actually said that. I said it's far better, not perfect.
the registry is a st awful solution to the need to configure an OS, manage installs programs and so on. It fails to work properly because Windows fails to housekeep it properly. If you file things away by throwing them in the cupboard and banging the door shut before they fall out, sooner or later you need to spend a week sorting out the cupboard. Except the only way to do that in Windows is to throw the entire cupboard, contents and all, in a skip and buy a new one - taking a weekend to build it.
No need for poor metaphors, what exactly is wrong with the registry?the registry is a s
t awful solution to the need to configure an OS, manage installs programs and so on. It fails to work properly because Windows fails to housekeep it properly. If you file things away by throwing them in the cupboard and banging the door shut before they fall out, sooner or later you need to spend a week sorting out the cupboard. Except the only way to do that in Windows is to throw the entire cupboard, contents and all, in a skip and buy a new one - taking a weekend to build it. We are running 100,000 end points and thousand of servers without any problem.
TonyToniTone said:
Blown2CV said:
i don't think i actually said that. I said it's far better, not perfect.
the registry is a st awful solution to the need to configure an OS, manage installs programs and so on. It fails to work properly because Windows fails to housekeep it properly. If you file things away by throwing them in the cupboard and banging the door shut before they fall out, sooner or later you need to spend a week sorting out the cupboard. Except the only way to do that in Windows is to throw the entire cupboard, contents and all, in a skip and buy a new one - taking a weekend to build it.
No need for poor metaphors, what exactly is wrong with the registry?the registry is a s
t awful solution to the need to configure an OS, manage installs programs and so on. It fails to work properly because Windows fails to housekeep it properly. If you file things away by throwing them in the cupboard and banging the door shut before they fall out, sooner or later you need to spend a week sorting out the cupboard. Except the only way to do that in Windows is to throw the entire cupboard, contents and all, in a skip and buy a new one - taking a weekend to build it. We are running 100,000 end points and thousand of servers without any problem.
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