Windows 10 upgrade notification

[RobDickinson]

I dont see or use metro/modern apps. A few are fun but most are too simple for a desktop env. I've even written some myself (which is actually fun, but mostly pointless).

[WinstonWolf]

RobDickinson said:

I dont see or use metro/modern apps. A few are fun but most are too simple for a desktop env. I've even written some myself (which is actually fun, but mostly pointless).

That's kinda the point, 8 tanked because it's pretty hopeless as a UI in it's native format, 10 is far better in a business environment with good use of Group Policy. Update sharing across the LAN is ace if properly controlled IMO. Most of my customers have gone 7>10 and skipped 8 completely.

In fact a lot of our suppliers only shipped 8 on recovery media, they all came with 7 Pro installed until 10

[RobDickinson]

You are talking of a business setting. I'm not. Group policy to a home user? really? Home users dont do that.

And yes Microsoft stuffed up windows 8 launch in a big way. even as a software dev with beta experience of windows 8 it wasnt working when launched.

8.1 fixes most of that but I guess the damage was already done.

Like Vista, it worked fine, but got panned by the press at the start.

[WinstonWolf]

RobDickinson said:

You are talking of a business setting. I'm not. Group policy to a home user? really? Home users dont do that.

And yes Microsoft stuffed up windows 8 launch in a big way. even as a software dev with beta experience of windows 8 it wasnt working when launched.

8.1 fixes most of that but I guess the damage was already done.

Like Vista, it worked fine, but got panned by the press at the start.

No, home users do far more to damage their own machines, we won't touch them even remotely

"It didn't do that before you touched it" Aargh!!!

[RobDickinson]

I honestly dont believe they will ever charge for the upgrade.

[Mr Happy]

WinstonWolf said:

RobDickinson said:

I dont see or use metro/modern apps. A few are fun but most are too simple for a desktop env. I've even written some myself (which is actually fun, but mostly pointless).

That's kinda the point, 8 tanked because it's pretty hopeless as a UI in it's native format, 10 is far better in a business environment with good use of Group Policy. Update sharing across the LAN is ace if properly controlled IMO. Most of my customers have gone 7>10 and skipped 8 completely.

In fact a lot of our suppliers only shipped 8 on recovery media, they all came with 7 Pro installed until 10

Should that be 'was'? Unless you've paid for enterprise licencing, 10 Pro has had all kinds of GPOs disabled since the anniversary update.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/administrators-can-no...

Yes there are workarounds to it ( https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4w0saz/... ), but like all wedges - this is the thin end, it's only going one way from here.

[RobDickinson]

Plus:
"Speaking of Cortana, Windows 10 Anniversary Update also has disabled in the Home and now Pro editions the ability for users to turn off Cortana completely. "

Cortana doesnt even officially work in my country yet but I cant turn it off? ffs.

[grumbledoak]

RobDickinson said:

As for the menu system etc I barely ever see the windows 8 menu, and then only for a split second as I type 2-3 characters and hit enter. Perhaps windows 10 is better in this respect ( I use it on my surface pro 4...) but its hardly a selling point IMO

I liked 8. It was fantastic on phones and tablets. The Start Screen even works well on a PC if you either
a) just start typing, or
b) treat "Right click and Pin to Start" as good old Desktop Icons. As a bonus you get the "desktop" when you hit the Windows key.

The lack of overlapping windows was stupid though. Not an issue in Visual Studio, but if I want a quick calc...

So 8 is dead and 10 is "Universal" as long as you only meant "Desktop". Sigh.

[All that jazz]

W8.1 UI problems are solved in approx 5 seconds with Classic Shell. I hear loads of people moaning about how bad 8.1 is because of that and so are staying on 7/Vista/XP/3.1 etc but it's pretty laughable when Classic Shell fixes it all so easily. It was the first thing I did when I installed 8.1 and I never see or use any of the tiles.

[Thorburn]

Main reason to go 8/8.1 to 10 is just the fact that (I think) the app model used for Windows 8 ModernUI apps is dead now. So particularly for tablets you won't get any real development of older apps.

[WinstonWolf]

Mr Happy said:

WinstonWolf said:

RobDickinson said:

I dont see or use metro/modern apps. A few are fun but most are too simple for a desktop env. I've even written some myself (which is actually fun, but mostly pointless).

That's kinda the point, 8 tanked because it's pretty hopeless as a UI in it's native format, 10 is far better in a business environment with good use of Group Policy. Update sharing across the LAN is ace if properly controlled IMO. Most of my customers have gone 7>10 and skipped 8 completely.

In fact a lot of our suppliers only shipped 8 on recovery media, they all came with 7 Pro installed until 10

Should that be 'was'? Unless you've paid for enterprise licencing, 10 Pro has had all kinds of GPOs disabled since the anniversary update.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/administrators-can-no...

Yes there are workarounds to it ( https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4w0saz/... ), but like all wedges - this is the thin end, it's only going one way from here.

Useful to know, thanks

[anonymous-user]

The latest windows update seems to have borked the Edge browser into displaying 2 search bars

https://www.ghacks.net/2017/09/16/microsoft-edge-s...

this has happened to me and whilst I have managed to fif it on he larger screen desktop it seems unfixable on the laptop

[blueg33]

techiedave said:

The latest windows update seems to have borked the Edge browser into displaying 2 search bars

https://www.ghacks.net/2017/09/16/microsoft-edge-s...

this has happened to me and whilst I have managed to fif it on he larger screen desktop it seems unfixable on the laptop

I have the same issue. Annoying

[snuffy]

I don't use Edge but I've just checked mine and it looks like this:

[blueg33]

It was back to normal this morning

[anonymous-user]

I'll check the laptop in a while

[anonymous-user]

Mine too
It was most definitely there yesterday

[AmitG]

Edge has been flaky for me recently, quite a few crashes and hangs even on simple web pages (including PH). It seems to be better now but I guess they have been pushing updates out at various levels of borkness.

[blueg33]

Overall I still prefer Edge to other browsers. Its generally very stable and quick. Its footprint on the o/s feels quite small.

[AmitG]

blueg33 said:

Overall I still prefer Edge to other browsers. Its generally very stable and quick. Its footprint on the o/s feels quite small.

Same here. It's lightweight, fast and generally works. I don't need fancy browser features (I don't even use any extensions), I just need the basics and for me it works fine.