Windows 10 upgrade notification

[Nimby]

illmonkey said:

But thats the W10 key you're looking at, I'm sure they will be different.

I typed the W7 key into W10 wizard, assuming that's all it's going to do it's self then update the key to the new one.

Yes of course. I suppose we need to clarify "clean install" which traditionally would be to boot from install media and format the partition. That would need a Win10 key.

But without one you can do a "clean upgrade"; it gives you the choice at the start of the upgrade process (something like "do you want to keep your existing programs ..."). I didn't but I assume it's like previous upgrades where you get a completely new registry, user profiles, program files, programdata, appdata, libraries etc and all existing stuff is moved to windows.old. Maybe someone who has done this can confirm.

[Oakey]

No idea, guess we'll find out in time.

So, I have Win8.1, reserved the free upgrade thing a few days ago, can I use the tool in the link from earlier and go the upgrade path with no problems?

[GlenMH]

Oakey said:

So, I have Win8.1, reserved the free upgrade thing a few days ago, can I use the tool in the link from earlier and go the upgrade path with no problems?

I can't even get it to start the download at the moment....

[b2hbm]

CoinSl0t said:

A word of warning for those of us who jumped the queue and used the upgrade tool thing linked above, this is for a paid for copy, not an upgrade. If you want to get a free upgrade from 7, 8 to 10 then you have to wait for the tray icon to tell you when the upgrade is ready for you to download, I have no choice but to reinstall 7 and wait for the icon notification or pay to keep my existing Win 10 installation. I probably should have read up a bit more. Oh, and it's crashed again anyway ????

Heck, I'm sorry you've had problems with the link. To stop anyone else having the same issues, this is from the MS website

"You can install from an ISO, a USB, or a DVD. Here's how:

Mount the ISO, and then run setup.exe from it.
If you downloaded to a USB or a DVD, run setup.exe from the USB or DVD.

Both of these options allow you to upgrade the PC if it's already running Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10."


I appreciate it's not that clear but elsewhere on the MS website there's info that says for a free upgrade you MUST upgrade first, register and then do a clean install if you wish after you've activated the PC.

There is a FAQ page which has a few points on installing/upgrading.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...

The process given there does work, it's just a bit strange. The laptop that was upgrading whilst I wrote the first post finished without asking for any numbers. It activated ok and then I found the product key, switched off the laptop and swapped the old drive for a new blank SSD. Insert the dvd created by that link, boot, format & install.

It let me skip the product key at first but eventually asked for a number. I entered the one found from the upgrade (and still on the old HD). It went through no problem, activated and all is well. So that ISO will let you do a clean install on a new HD with the same serial number, presumably it's linking the activation with the motherboard ?

[dxg]

I was looking forward to a risk-free upgrade by taking a back up image of my Parallels VM (I'm on a mac but use 8.1 concurrently alongside OS X), and then upgrading the copy. If anything goes wrong, just swap back the original VM image.

However, the little pre-loader thing announced yesterday that the display driver is incompatible. And it seems to have happened to every Parallels user, which is a hell of a lot of unhappy people...

[snuffy]

GlenMH said:

My understanding is that you have to do the "in place" upgrade first as this will then tie the installation to an MS account. Once you have done that, then you can do a complete install.

From here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/medi... :
Note

If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer.

Hmm, well I used the link posted earlier and it just upgraded. Control Panel says Windows is Activated. I was logged on with an MS account so maybe that's why mine worked ?

I've only done one of my 4 machines, and it was the only one with an MS account as my logon.

[tvrforever]

upgraded from Win 8.1 Enterprise, using Win10 Enterprise in place on my laptop, worked seamlessly through a few reboots and the clock timer interface - had to use new Enterprise product key to active. Very nice update so far...

[onlynik]

dxg said:

I was looking forward to a risk-free upgrade by taking a back up image of my Parallels VM (I'm on a mac but use 8.1 concurrently alongside OS X), and then upgrading the copy. If anything goes wrong, just swap back the original VM image.

However, the little pre-loader thing announced yesterday that the display driver is incompatible. And it seems to have happened to every Parallels user, which is a hell of a lot of unhappy people...

Works fine on Parallels.

[Morningside]

Oakey said:

GlenMH said:

My understanding is that you have to do the "in place" upgrade first as this will then tie the installation to an MS account. Once you have done that, then you can do a complete install.

From here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/medi... :
Note

If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer.

The elephant in the room;

when does 'this PC' stop being 'this PC'?

How many components can I upgrade before MS go "This isn't the same PC, sorry, no dice!"

If you want to upgrade your mobo and CPU, where does that leave you regards activating Win10?

Didn't they used to do this on eBay by selling the certificate with some random piece of hardware?

I am STILL not getting the update notification. Can I download it directly somewhere?

[ecsrobin]

b2hbm said:

CoinSl0t said:

A word of warning for those of us who jumped the queue and used the upgrade tool thing linked above, this is for a paid for copy, not an upgrade. If you want to get a free upgrade from 7, 8 to 10 then you have to wait for the tray icon to tell you when the upgrade is ready for you to download, I have no choice but to reinstall 7 and wait for the icon notification or pay to keep my existing Win 10 installation. I probably should have read up a bit more. Oh, and it's crashed again anyway ????

Heck, I'm sorry you've had problems with the link. To stop anyone else having the same issues, this is from the MS website

"You can install from an ISO, a USB, or a DVD. Here's how:

Mount the ISO, and then run setup.exe from it.
If you downloaded to a USB or a DVD, run setup.exe from the USB or DVD.

Both of these options allow you to upgrade the PC if it's already running Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10."


I appreciate it's not that clear but elsewhere on the MS website there's info that says for a free upgrade you MUST upgrade first, register and then do a clean install if you wish after you've activated the PC.

There is a FAQ page which has a few points on installing/upgrading.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...

The process given there does work, it's just a bit strange. The laptop that was upgrading whilst I wrote the first post finished without asking for any numbers. It activated ok and then I found the product key, switched off the laptop and swapped the old drive for a new blank SSD. Insert the dvd created by that link, boot, format & install.

It let me skip the product key at first but eventually asked for a number. I entered the one found from the upgrade (and still on the old HD). It went through no problem, activated and all is well. So that ISO will let you do a clean install on a new HD with the same serial number, presumably it's linking the activation with the motherboard ?

I followed your link clicked update and it's all working fine on one laptop. That was 8-10. My Windows 7 laptop is having errors following the same process. It appears to download then find an issue.

Thanks for posting the link and it's all ok for me

[anonymous-user]

b2hbm said:

Heck, I'm sorry you've had problems with the link. To stop anyone else having the same issues, this is from the MS website

"You can install from an ISO, a USB, or a DVD. Here's how:

Mount the ISO, and then run setup.exe from it.
If you downloaded to a USB or a DVD, run setup.exe from the USB or DVD.

Both of these options allow you to upgrade the PC if it's already running Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10."


I appreciate it's not that clear but elsewhere on the MS website there's info that says for a free upgrade you MUST upgrade first, register and then do a clean install if you wish after you've activated the PC.

There is a FAQ page which has a few points on installing/upgrading.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...

The process given there does work, it's just a bit strange. The laptop that was upgrading whilst I wrote the first post finished without asking for any numbers. It activated ok and then I found the product key, switched off the laptop and swapped the old drive for a new blank SSD. Insert the dvd created by that link, boot, format & install.

It let me skip the product key at first but eventually asked for a number. I entered the one found from the upgrade (and still on the old HD). It went through no problem, activated and all is well. So that ISO will let you do a clean install on a new HD with the same serial number, presumably it's linking the activation with the motherboard ?

Completely different experience on my home laptop (8.1). Downloaded, clean install, fully installed in less than 30 minutes.

I've been using it for several hours without issue, 😃

[Funk]

OK, couldn't resist. Whacked it on the laptop and all went smoothly. Took a while to activate though and it nuked my Avira install. Also had to reinstall a couple of things (JRiver) but other than that it was pretty much plain sailing.

I rather like it. Gonna run with it a while before doing the W7 machine though as that's my primary.

[JustinF]

Client downloads, unpacks, then at one of the various reboots hangs with an 8.1 style 'working' circle halfway round.
A hard reset results in a WinX wait while we set this shizzle up screen that get s to 57% then freezes for over an hour (same shizzle third attempt)
A hard reset at this point forces a rollback to 8.1.

[dxg]

onlynik said:

dxg said:

I was looking forward to a risk-free upgrade by taking a back up image of my Parallels VM (I'm on a mac but use 8.1 concurrently alongside OS X), and then upgrading the copy. If anything goes wrong, just swap back the original VM image.

However, the little pre-loader thing announced yesterday that the display driver is incompatible. And it seems to have happened to every Parallels user, which is a hell of a lot of unhappy people...

Works fine on Parallels.

The previous images seem to, but not the final image.

There is talk of uninstalling parallels tools, upgrading, then reinstalling the tools. Which I will no doubt have to try at the weekend...

[skeggysteve]

Did the update this afternoon, took a couple of hours but I had no problems.

Updated from Win 7 on a 2 year old Dell.

Can't say I've noticed the promised speed increase and any 'app' I try to install fails.

Edge seems to OK'ish but not 'that' good.

Overall I'll say.... it's free and you get what you pay for.

[Silver Smudger]

Ran the ISO on a DVD onto daughter's laptop, selecting upgrade rather than clean install - Worked so well that I have just finished the desktop PC too.
Couldn't get the 'Create a USB' option to work for the other laptop - It hung at 97% and never finished loading onto the datastick.
Will try again later.

[Funk]

Not my install but this amused me:



It's actually probably the most honest and accurate error message ever.

[PanzerCommander]

Word of warning to those updating from Win 7 to win 10 that have an NVIDIA graphics card. Win 10 swats NVIDIA like a bug. I am running on windows "basic" drivers as it doesn't even recognise my GPU

I have found a supposed fix but I won't know if it works until later today when I get home from work but seems its a problem with the auto updater and it downloading the windows approved NVIDIA drivers which actually aren't correct.

The crux of the fix is you have to kill all NVIDIA processes before updating the drivers as it cannot overwrite them otherwise (unlike a normal driver update where it just gets on with it and then re-boots the machine to bring the new drivers online

[clonmult]

PanzerCommander said:

Word of warning to those updating from Win 7 to win 10 that have an NVIDIA graphics card. Win 10 swats NVIDIA like a bug. I am running on windows "basic" drivers as it doesn't even recognise my GPU

I have found a supposed fix but I won't know if it works until later today when I get home from work but seems its a problem with the auto updater and it downloading the windows approved NVIDIA drivers which actually aren't correct.

The crux of the fix is you have to kill all NVIDIA processes before updating the drivers as it cannot overwrite them otherwise (unlike a normal driver update where it just gets on with it and then re-boots the machine to bring the new drivers online

I've seen mention of this, but haven't had any such problems. Laptop is older, running an NVidia GT520M and Intel HD3000, both have worked perfectly throughout the whole insider program - and the current w10 install on there is apparently the same as what has been publicly released in the last day.

[PanzerCommander]

clonmult said:

I've seen mention of this, but haven't had any such problems. Laptop is older, running an NVidia GT520M and Intel HD3000, both have worked perfectly throughout the whole insider program - and the current w10 install on there is apparently the same as what has been publicly released in the last day.

Interesting, I wonder if its something to do with the NVIDIA control panel and the other swizz that surrounds it. My card isn't exactly new (GTX780) but its not old either.

My SAITEK pro-flight trim wheel also crashes windows 10 when I move it, all my other flight sim hardware seems to be fine.