Windows 10 upgrade notification

[Funk]

Teppic said:

Having finally managed to get Windows 10 on my PC, I have noticed that I don't have an icon for Outlook, either in the tiles or the All Apps part of the Stat menu. The only way I can start Outlook is to open File Explorer and go hunting for the Outlook.exe file. It won't let me create a tile or icon for it in the Start menu. I don't want it on my Desktop as I'm going for the minimalist look with only the Recycle Bin (the new icon for which is absolutely ghastly) on the Desktop.

Find Outlook in apps, right click, pin to start. Then move it where you want it.

[FourWheelDrift]

Enabling Cortana if it is disabled by default - http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-enable-he...

"Note: Cortana is currently only available for the U.S., UK, China, France, Italy, Germany and Spain. "

[Funk]

First Windows Update pushed out this evening, it wanted a restart after and would only give me the option to defer (up to the 11th August) but it DEFINITELY would be restarting my machine...

Now to me that's not WIndows' decision to make, My machine functions as a server for various things and I try to keep reboots to a minimum - I don't ever log off or put it to sleep, it runs 24/7.

I was under the illusion Pro would allow me to control this but it seemed that although I could postpone, it would at some point override my wishes. So I went rifling through gpedit.msc settings and it seems that under Computer Config > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update there is a setting that says "No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic updates installations".

I've set this to 'Enabled' and done the restart it required to activate the policy. Will be interesting to see whether it now forces a restart without my say so. I have Pulseway installed which will alert me if the machine starts to shut down for any reason so at least I'll know if it decides it knows better...!

[steveatesh]

Laptop updated tonight to Windows 10, appeared to go no problem, but I noticed it was running slow, especially start and close down.
A little investigation revealed the Intel Rapid Storage Technology that runs the hybrid hard drive was not running, so I presume the SSD part was not working.

Went to the Intel site and downloaded the driver, went to restart after installation but laptop now goes into a loop inaccessible boot drive error

Couldn't find a way through it so having to reset it. Not a good start.

[Teppic]

Funk said:

Teppic said:

Having finally managed to get Windows 10 on my PC, I have noticed that I don't have an icon for Outlook, either in the tiles or the All Apps part of the Stat menu. The only way I can start Outlook is to open File Explorer and go hunting for the Outlook.exe file. It won't let me create a tile or icon for it in the Start menu. I don't want it on my Desktop as I'm going for the minimalist look with only the Recycle Bin (the new icon for which is absolutely ghastly) on the Desktop.

Find Outlook in apps, right click, pin to start. Then move it where you want it.

It's not showing in apps. All the other Office applications are but Outlook isn't. The only way I can open Outlook at the moment is to locate the executable file in File Explorer (which is a mission in itself). Even when I do this and try to pin it to start it won't. It's not just Outlook that this is happening to. My tile for Firefox keeps disappearing randomly as well - sometimes it's there, sometimes it isn't.

Edited by Teppic on Thursday 6th August 07:59

[cirian75]

PC kept failing on windows update

So I did some research on the errors codes, did the regedit suggested, still no worky, used the win10 media creator in the end

after 1.5hrs it was done, almost.

start and notifications was not working at all.

so more google'age, found a string to run in powershell, still no worky

restart, all works now, but my headphones drivers won't work, so went to bed as it was gone 11.

[jimmyjimjim]

Ditto.

Had to make the system information partition (that had ~100Kb free of 100Mb) editable by assigning it a drive letter, truncate the NTFS log, delete the corrupted win 10 download, uninstall McAfee, and let it download the update again for each time it failed.

Took a good 3 hours to persuade it to start the upgrade and maybe 20 minutes to do it.

[hab1966]

In the old days, i was always told to do a clean install of the O/S as opposed to an upgrade.

Is this still the case, or are people just doing the upgrade and things are fine?

[Far Cough]

Just got me a new lappy and the first thing it did was ask to upgrade to 10. All went through fine the second time because some numpty restarted it halfway through the first download !! It's gonna take some getting used to coming from vista....

[8bit]

cirian75 said:

PC kept failing on windows update

So I did some research on the errors codes, did the regedit suggested, still no worky, used the win10 media creator in the end

after 1.5hrs it was done, almost.

start and notifications was not working at all.

so more google'age, found a string to run in powershell, still no worky

restart, all works now, but my headphones drivers won't work, so went to bed as it was gone 11.

I had that, seemed like previous versions when explorer.exe hangs - couldn't click start menu, couldn't get into system tray applets, mouseover on start bar always showed busy. Tried the powershell thing, didn't help. Took a couple of reboots then it all started working.

I logged in to my wife's account (still there from Win7 as well as mine) once mine was all working and that took a couple of reboots to start working right as well. I'm assuming that some sort of process starts on first logon of each profile to convert it to whatever Win10 uses for profile setup/structure etc.

[MarkRSi]

hab1966 said:

In the old days, i was always told to do a clean install of the O/S as opposed to an upgrade.

Is this still the case, or are people just doing the upgrade and things are fine?

I've done the upgrade on several machines now (by manually running that media creation tool - as anyone here got a notification to do the upgrade from Windows update???) and no problems so far. Performance seems better all round.

I think once you've upgraded and got a key, you have to the option to extract said key then wipe/reinstall if you wish.


Also, tried Cortona but there seems to be a few issues
(a) It seems to be more a search box for Bing rather than doing anything useful
(b) When I enable the voice recognition, it reduces the volume to 62 for no reason, so Cortana can't hear anything that said...
(c) my microphone seems to be fecked, need to boost the volume up to maximum and +30dB to get anything and I either get a load of background hiss/noise or with the noise filter it sounds distorted. That's probably my old laptop rather than Win10s fault though.

[Funk]

Teppic said:

Funk said:

Teppic said:

Having finally managed to get Windows 10 on my PC, I have noticed that I don't have an icon for Outlook, either in the tiles or the All Apps part of the Stat menu. The only way I can start Outlook is to open File Explorer and go hunting for the Outlook.exe file. It won't let me create a tile or icon for it in the Start menu. I don't want it on my Desktop as I'm going for the minimalist look with only the Recycle Bin (the new icon for which is absolutely ghastly) on the Desktop.

Find Outlook in apps, right click, pin to start. Then move it where you want it.

It's not showing in apps. All the other Office applications are but Outlook isn't. The only way I can open Outlook at the moment is to locate the executable file in File Explorer (which is a mission in itself). Even when I do this and try to pin it to start it won't. It's not just Outlook that this is happening to. My tile for Firefox keeps disappearing randomly as well - sometimes it's there, sometimes it isn't.

Edited by Teppic on Thursday 6th August 07:59

I'd be inclined to just reinstall Office that being the case...

hab1966 said:

In the old days, i was always told to do a clean install of the O/S as opposed to an upgrade.

Is this still the case, or are people just doing the upgrade and things are fine?

I've done a straight upgrade on both my machines and they're running great so far. I think it helps to have the machine in good shape in general before running the upgrade (caches cleared, reg cleaned etc, virus and malware-free for example).

I have a lot of stuff set up on mine and reinstalling/reconfiguring everything from clean would be a real pain in the backside.

[StressedEric]

What I did:

1. Fresh install of Win 7.

2. All the Windows updates installed.

3. Zero other programs added.

4. Update to Win10 with Creation Tool.

5. Had to download and install Nvidia driver for my graphics card (GTX650ti) from Nvidia's site.

6. Got rid of all the tiles on my desktop, I just use the Start Menu and Task Bar.

7. Not interested in Cortana.

8. Changed loads of privacy settings.

9. Running Good.

[outnumbered]

Just done the upgrade on a lowish spec laptop and a mid-spec desktop... both working fine with W10 now.

Not having the Charms bar any more is great, as I never liked it. The only minor niggle I have so far is the lack of differentiation between the active and non-active windows, and the apparently fixed white background of the title bar. I also had to google for where they'd hidden the "switch user" option.

[andy-xr]

Mine updated this afternoon. Other than Outlook not being stable for the first few opens, it all just looks like a reskinned XP

No real problems to report with the update or functionality changes, it's a simple machine though that just does web, email and a bit of media with a web tracking app for work.

[melhookv12]

Start menu Task bar etc all working but only after 4 forced restarts due to an unresponsive start button, Task bar and all other icons.

Edited by melhookv12 on Thursday 6th August 20:41

[Brother D]

Funk said:

Brother D said:

essayer said:

My Cortana doesn't work either

I don't think cortana is being rolled out in the UK for a while (you can get round it by changing location to US/Keyboard US etc if you really can't wait)

I have Cortana working with UK language settings on both laptop and PC. It's actually not bad.

I need to retract my statement...I've done a few PCs now some contana just worked, others I had to do the following:

Change region to USA.
Change language to English (American ) as default.
Change time to somewhere in USA, I.e. Eastern standard time.
Change keyboard to USA
Cortana will now work, so set her up.
THEN change above settings to UK, English and UTC.
CORTANA will now work ok.

One other issue I came across was a PC unable to send emails in outlook (just sat in outbox with error msg Network Error unable to contact server) - Tools/options/add ins/Manage COM addins/disable MS Exchange Add-in (they didn't have any exchange accounts).

[essayer]

My Cortana started working after I set all of the language settings to UK, including the ones in Control Panel, downloaded the pack, installed the new Updates and restarted. Then it worked.

It's pretty pointless BTW so don't stress too much if it doesn't work!

[mygoldfishbowl]

ZesPak said:

Goldfish, sounds like a video card driver, have you checked there's maybe a new one that is Win 10 compatible for your card?

I tried updating drivers, I tried messing with display settings, I tried altering fonts so I could live with it but 10 did not recognise my screen. I've just rolled back to 7 & hey presto it works & I'm happy again.

I liked 10 & hopefully Microsoft will iron these problems out but for the moment I'm happier with 7.

Thanks for trying to help.

Edited by mygoldfishbowl on Friday 7th August 00:26

[StressedEric]

The big issue for me so far (and for many others).

Is the lack of control over Windows Updates.

You have no choice, Microsoft forces all updates (including graphics card drivers etc.) on you whether you want them or not.

It seems to me two things are likely to happen:

1. Microsoft will have to re-think that one after enough fuss is made.

2. Jolly clever types will find a work-around.