Windows 10 upgrade notification

[IainT]

All that jazz said:

No, you are absolutely right! I did get a bit ahead of myself and forgot about those folks still using HDDs, so on that note I shall wind my neck in and .

My wife's old PC was somewhat transformed by upgrading Win7 to Win10. It's 6 years old and slow. Time to login prompt has been massively reduced as is login to desktop. I suspect the worse the hardware the better the improvement.

My machine isn't UEFI bios but is SSD and it's improved enough to be noticeable.

Having had enough of her old PC the wife spent some of her bonus on a system from overclockers.co.uk and the Win7 boot time on that is unreal, she's upgrading to Win10 and I suspect it'll be booted before she presses the power switch.

[RizzoTheRat]

IainT said:

My wife's old PC was somewhat transformed by upgrading Win7 to Win10. It's 6 years old and slow. Time to login prompt has been massively reduced as is login to desktop.

Probably a chunk of that is just having a fresh install on it. I tend to rebuild my PC every few years and it's surprising how much quicker a new install of the same OS on the same computer can be.

Happy with 10 so far but it's just occurred to me that I haven't installed my printer/scanner or the Ant/Garmin stuff. So long as they work I'll be sticking with 10.

[Cobnapint]

ch108 said:

Me too. Going nowhere near this update. Learned my lesson with my nexus 7 tablet when i got an android upgrade which effectively ruined it and made the tablet unuseable.

Quick one on the N7, you need to clear the partition cache (different to the app cache). There are tutorials online how to do it. It's easy.

I've had to do mine and now it flies again.

But I know what you mean with Win10.../

[IainT]

RizzoTheRat said:

Probably a chunk of that is just having a fresh install on it. I tend to rebuild my PC every few years and it's surprising how much quicker a new install of the same OS on the same computer can be.

Given it carried over all the old software and won't have the benefit of a clean disk to install to (fragmentation) the gains are not quite the same as a fresh install with no cruft.

I'd suspect the main benefit of the new install to be the way MS may well load Win7 patches/updates along with improvements in 10.

[RizzoTheRat]

Good point, I installed mine fresh on a new disk, but I assumed from others comments about being able to delete the old version of windows post upgrade, and someone complaining about it having lost all his passwords that it was a relatively clean install.

[IainT]

RizzoTheRat said:

delete the old version of windows post upgrade

Creates a backup of previous version - massive restore point effectively from what I can tell. Would be interesting to see how much of 10 is a complete redo versus small enhancement with a fancy frock on.

[cirian75]

my 2 PC went okish, tablet was easy, the desktop needed some work

Now, my old mans laptop, It wont activate win10 no matter how much I fiddle, so doing a clean install off his win8 pro discs, then will update to 8.1, and then to win10

[8bit]

Derek Smith said:

One of the cumulative updates would not load and every time I logged on it would go through the whole procedure again, and still fail to upload. 30 mins of my day gone.

I've had that the past few days. Every time I boot up it tries to install it and fails, going through about half a dozen reboots in the process. Getting boring now.

[MarkRSi]

IainT said:

RizzoTheRat said:

Probably a chunk of that is just having a fresh install on it. I tend to rebuild my PC every few years and it's surprising how much quicker a new install of the same OS on the same computer can be.

Given it carried over all the old software and won't have the benefit of a clean disk to install to (fragmentation) the gains are not quite the same as a fresh install with no cruft.

I'd suspect the main benefit of the new install to be the way MS may well load Win7 patches/updates along with improvements in 10.

I've noticed a fair improvement on my folks Windows 7 laptops - both using HDDs but the Windows installations are less than a year old and they don't load much crap onto them so are still reasonably fresh, but both can be powered up and ready to use within a minute easily despite their modest specs as opposed to the minute or two of thrashing about.

It doesn't work miracles though - haven't noticed too much of a performance difference after upgrading my Windows 8 SSD laptop, and on a Windows 7 laptop that was slow due to all the stuff I run on it (test software for work, VMs etc.) is still slow after upgrading to Windows 10

[4737 Carlin]

Derek Smith said:

4737 Carlin said:

If I install Win10 and don't like it (I didn't like 8.1) how does one roll back to W7?

Don't think I can be bothered to reinstall everything.


Thanks.

On the assumption that you upgraded directly from W7, open the Windows upgrade programme (app) and you will find a Restore 7 button. Mine went off without significant problem, apart from my trackball not working initially but a reboot sorted that.

Thank you, Derek.

[_dobbo_]

A week or so in and my various computers are all running lovely with Win10, nothing bad to report, except on my Surface3 which frankly has a number of issues.

Funny that Microsoft's newest flagship device is the one that has the problems whilst my self build PCs all work flawlessly.

Not sure it's bad enough to warrant a revert to Win8.1 but annoying issues like no onscreen keyboard on the login page (making it impossible to login in tablet mode) are pretty frigging awful errors.

[R8VXF]

Weird issue on my work machine. I cannot access any settings "apps".

I have fixed this issue by running the troubleshooter from here: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/w...

[sparkyhx]

I took the plunge last night, but it was too late to take a proper look. This morning it booted quickly and straight into edge for BBC live - no issues so far.

[Ebo100]

Another article about Windows spying on the user:-
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/30/windows...

[All that jazz]

Ebo100 said:

Another article about Windows spying on the user:-
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/30/windows...

I said this myself when it was first announced it was going to be free. Then this spying st arrived and it all made perfect sense!

article said:

Conventional wisdom has it that Microsoft’s fight for technological relevance is against Apple. For a time that was true, but as of late they’ve effectively ceded the floor to the Cupertino mob when it comes to hardware (although I hope the Surface Pro line continues – I’m a big fan) and have once again narrowed their computing focus to software. The battle there is against Google, whose search, browser and productivity tools increasingly form a loose, web-based operating system. People aren’t so hot on paying for things these days, which means the money comes from harvesting data and flogging it to advertisers and other organisations who want to know exactly what we’re all up to online. Microsoft want a piece of that, so if you ever wondered why they’ve made the Windows 10 upgrade free to Win 7 & 8 users, here’s one possible answer. Windows 10 has all sorts of user tracking baked right in.

[Ebo100]

Just proves; no such thing as a free lunch.

[RobDickinson]

Whats the best way of removing windows 10 from windows update ( on 8.1)?

I can delete the update that does the offer, but I still have the w10 download in windows update, I can hide it but it still then seems to want to download it, the thing ends up checked all the time by default etc.

[All that jazz]

RobDickinson said:

Whats the best way of removing windows 10 from windows update ( on 8.1)?

I can delete the update that does the offer, but I still have the w10 download in windows update, I can hide it but it still then seems to want to download it, the thing ends up checked all the time by default etc.

Go into your Windows Update settings and sort your installed updates by name. Expand the width of the column so you can see the KB numbers and look for KB3035583 and uninstall that then do a reboot. The notification will no longer appear in your icon tray.

[RizzoTheRat]

If you do the custom install not the default you can opt out if sending data to Microsoft.

[RobDickinson]

All that jazz said:

Go into your Windows Update settings and sort your installed updates by name. Expand the width of the column so you can see the KB numbers and look for KB3035583 and uninstall that then do a reboot. The notification will no longer appear in your icon tray.

Then windows update re-downloads it and activates it again. I could hide it but I think my system is past that anyhow, windows 10 upgrade itself is in WU