Windows 10 upgrade notification

[anonymous-user]

GreigM said:

Its nonsense. Go onto Dell's UK support site and pull up the support page for your machine. It will tell you at the top if Dell has tested and approved W10 for your configuration, and if so will provide you with all the driver/bios updates required. I have 4 Dell machines here of varying vintage all running better, all improved in terms of performance, boot times, network stability etc.

I'll check that out, reassuring thanks. Whenever I do something like this it always goes wrong!
If they built a car that needed constant updates, maintenance and pitfalls no one would buy it.

[MarkRSi]

What about upgrading from 8.1 to 10?

From the few machines I've updated, Windows 10 seems to combine the performance (cold boot times, mostly) of Windows 8 and UI layout of Windows 7 (sort of). This is a tablet though and I'm ok with the UI of 8.1, and as it's a cheap tablet I wouldn't be surprised if there were driver problems with Windows 10.

[Zod]

Northbloke said:

Update on my plight...

Still not firing up OK (20 minutes) and spent loads of time fannying around (I'm not techy).

Occasionally get "Driver power state failure" message. Tried Drivereasy to check all drivers. No change.

Then get a phonecall out of the blue today which sounds like some Indian scammers. About to put the phone down but they seem to know I have a problem with my PC in quite correct detail.

Turns out it's www.callsmartguys.com who quote my reg license number and use Teamviewer to show me the problems on my PC by going into Event Viewer. I have 3000 errors and they want me to pony up £300 for 4 years maintance contract to sort it out. Wasn't impressed by their scaremongering patter but I do still have a big problem with the PC.

How bizarre. Told 'em to go away whilst I research it.

So, anyone heard of them?

The online MS forum has drawn a blank.

So upgrading is fine when it works, but when it doesn't...

Nobody legitimate will ever cold call you about problems with your computer.

[Condi]

Its a massive update, bringing in several new features (Cortana being the most obvious one), but also a lot of background stuff.

Was always going to happen after a few months, once MS had got the original build stable and secure.

[anonymous-user]

GreigM said:

V6Pushfit said:

mybrainhurts said:

I hear Dell is saying don't do it on Dells.

Is that correct? Has anyone got some feedback from W10 on a Dell?

Its nonsense. Go onto Dell's UK support site and pull up the support page for your machine. It will tell you at the top if Dell has tested and approved W10 for your configuration, and if so will provide you with all the driver/bios updates required. I have 4 Dell machines here of varying vintage all running better, all improved in terms of performance, boot times, network stability etc.

I'm running it on 3 Dells

1. Latitude E7240 - works a treat
2. Dell All In One Inspiron think its a 2350 - superb and has shaved 10 seconds off the Windows 8.1 boot time (now from switch on to desktop in 12 seconds flat
3. Dell Vostro desktop - older thing at work using I think socket 775 fit processor and DDR2 memory (camne with Win 7) - again smooth as silk.

[Northbloke]

Thanks for the advice gents, I'll give it a go.

I did think I was being a spanner but I have been logging events with MS because of my problems (so not totally out of the blue) and they did know my Windows licence key (or is it just a generic one they quoted to fool me). Where did they get that? They look too dodgy to have a real business link with MS.

Anyway I've got rid of Team Viewer and done all the scans with nothing there.

Now to get W10 sorted...

[WinstonWolf]

Zod said:

Northbloke said:

Update on my plight...

Still not firing up OK (20 minutes) and spent loads of time fannying around (I'm not techy).

Occasionally get "Driver power state failure" message. Tried Drivereasy to check all drivers. No change.

Then get a phonecall out of the blue today which sounds like some Indian scammers. About to put the phone down but they seem to know I have a problem with my PC in quite correct detail.

Turns out it's www.callsmartguys.com who quote my reg license number and use Teamviewer to show me the problems on my PC by going into Event Viewer. I have 3000 errors and they want me to pony up £300 for 4 years maintance contract to sort it out. Wasn't impressed by their scaremongering patter but I do still have a big problem with the PC.

How bizarre. Told 'em to go away whilst I research it.

So, anyone heard of them?

The online MS forum has drawn a blank.

So upgrading is fine when it works, but when it doesn't...

Nobody legitimate will ever cold call you about problems with your computer.

Yup, just Google Event Viewer scam. It's a scam...

[GreigM]

Zod said:

Northbloke said:

I have 3000 errors and they want me to pony up £300 for 4 years maintance contract to sort it out. Wasn't impressed by their scaremongering patter but I do still have a big problem with the PC.

Nobody legitimate will ever cold call you about problems with your computer.

This. I just looked at my own event viewer on a "healthy" PC and I have about 3000 errors sitting there - they happen for a number of reasons and don't necessarily mean you have a big problem.

You now need to wipe your PC entirely (no joking) and start from scratch.

[karona]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

It appears 10586 has thoroughly borked my Atheros WiFi card.

Not a rare occurrence according to the Google results either.

Did the results not tell you to change drivers to a generic driver via Device Manager? It worked for mine.

[Kinky]

My sons just come down to tell me that his display and sound is all buggered.

And sure enough it is. Almost unusable.

Looks like a system update screwed everything up

Doing a roll-back in the hope it works.

[GreigM]

Kinky said:

My sons just come down to tell me that his display and sound is all buggered.

And sure enough it is. Almost unusable.

Looks like a system update screwed everything up

Doing a roll-back in the hope it works.

The "big" update will reset any non-certified drivers to the windows default ones. Just open the device manager, right click device, click on "update driver software", then "Browse my computer for driver software", then "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on this computer" - chances are the correct driver will be listes - use this and the problem should be solved.

[snuffy]

GreigM said:

This. I just looked at my own event viewer on a "healthy" PC and I have about 3000 errors sitting there - they happen for a number of reasons and don't necessarily mean you have a big problem.

This is a very common scam. All PCs will have thousands of big red "errors" in the event log and are normal windows events and nothing to worry about.

Another common one is to get you to display the class ids of all your installed programs and then they tell you what the class id of windows is (so they quote you some hugely long number ) which magically matches the one on your PCs in order to "prove they are looking at your PC". The fact that the Class Id of windows is of course the same for all PCs is oddly never mentioned.

[Max M4X WW]

ash73 said:

They should move the deadline and start charging £80 from Jan 1st, catch all these procrastinators with their pants down

When is the deadline currently?

[Richyvrlimited]

Max M4X WW said:

When is the deadline currently?

July 2016

[anonymous-user]

Is it paid after that then?

[Laurel Green]

V6Pushfit said:

Is it paid after that then?

I posed the question way back in this thread, with no replies. Perhaps subscription from then on?

[Richyvrlimited]

Laurel Green said:

I posed the question way back in this thread, with no replies. Perhaps subscription from then on?

it's not a subscription model for the OS

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-s...

yet...

[zippy3x]

Laurel Green said:

V6Pushfit said:

Is it paid after that then?

I posed the question way back in this thread, with no replies. Perhaps subscription from then on?

The following is all IMHO:

It will be a one off purchase after July. The full retail licences are one time purchases, can't see upgrades being a different model to retail.

I think the whole subscription thing is just FUD spread by people who have an axe to grind with Microsoft. This seems to be based on the "millions Microsoft is losing on Windows licences", but if you think about it, how much are they really losing. Businesses buying through MSDN are still paying, anyone buying a new PC/Laptop is still paying. Traditionally the upgrade market is very small in comparison.

Perhaps the most "evil" thing Microsoft has done is to convince the world Windows 10 is free.

[Bobhon]

So I finally got my notification that my PC is ready to upgrade this week. I have downloaded the Update to Win 10 with the thought that I would upgrade it over the Xmas break as Telly will probably be really c**p anyway and the weather will be that wet that I won't want to take my TVR out for a run (bu**er).

The question is should I or will it give me a world of pain?

Is it more likely to succeed as I waited for MS to tell me that they are now ready for my computer?

With a backup to a USB hard drive of the current Win 7 set up just before I do it will this enable me to get back to where it is now easily?

Do I need to 'clone' the current hard drive somewhere before I start? If so should this be onto a new USB hard drive? And what software (free if possible) will let me do it?

Yours

Confused

[grumbledoak]

Bobhon said:

The question is should I or will it give me a world of pain?

Back up your personal data - your files, photos, and home videos. Anything irreplaceable. You should be doing this anyway. OneDrive is free.

Then "Spin that wheel!". It normally just works.