Netflix - Educate Me
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So signed up for a free month, and will probably continue at 5.99 for one device as it is all on tap and unlimited which really appeals. Intended use is my main TV.
However, having signed up for the free month, I am able to stream to my TV, and also my tablet, which having selected 1 device only I didn't think I would be able to do. Is this simply because I am on a free month so it gives me everything?
Also, is there anything else worthwhile that rivals Netflix? A few of my friends have these "boxes" that for no cost let you wactch most films and some even before they are out in the cinema but it sounds dodgy to me. The visual and audio quality plus ease of use that I had from Netflix last night seems well worth the money to me.
However, having signed up for the free month, I am able to stream to my TV, and also my tablet, which having selected 1 device only I didn't think I would be able to do. Is this simply because I am on a free month so it gives me everything?
Also, is there anything else worthwhile that rivals Netflix? A few of my friends have these "boxes" that for no cost let you wactch most films and some even before they are out in the cinema but it sounds dodgy to me. The visual and audio quality plus ease of use that I had from Netflix last night seems well worth the money to me.
Looked at Netflix years ago as an alternative to Lovefilm - at the time it was all old (not "classic") movies so didn't bother.
Signed up a few months ago just for "Better Call Saul" and will definitely continue with it now as their TV output has improved.... currently enjoying Sense8, disappointed by OITNB
Can't help on the technical side.
Signed up a few months ago just for "Better Call Saul" and will definitely continue with it now as their TV output has improved.... currently enjoying Sense8, disappointed by OITNB
Can't help on the technical side.
It could be one device concurrently rather than one device full stop. Try watching on your TV and tablet at the same time and see what happens.
Incidentally, I have just cancelled my membership. I used to use it a lot but I have seen most of the decent stuff now and I get Amazon Prime Video for 'free' with my Prime subscription so I was using it even less.
Incidentally, I have just cancelled my membership. I used to use it a lot but I have seen most of the decent stuff now and I get Amazon Prime Video for 'free' with my Prime subscription so I was using it even less.
I have Netflix through my Apple TV, and have had it for about 3 years now. We have got to the stage now where we hardly watch main stream TV anymore and settle down for the night working our way through a TV boxset.
Also brought the £8.99 per month package for the whole family to use, so my Dad can get get the 4K picture quality on some titles. Best money I spend per month IMO, particularly with the dark cold nights drawing in sooner rather than later.
Also brought the £8.99 per month package for the whole family to use, so my Dad can get get the 4K picture quality on some titles. Best money I spend per month IMO, particularly with the dark cold nights drawing in sooner rather than later.
We've been toying with streaming services for the past few months. I got a Now TV with the six month entertainment pack for £30, so that was pretty good and the Now TV device is excellent value whether you sign up to the Sky services or not (£10 without the pack). We found we weren't watching much on it though so I cancelled it after the six months.
Then we tried the Amazon Prime trial and the content is alright but it's clumsy to navigate through and the hardware restrictions are annoying. If you already have an Amazon tablet or Fire Stick I'm sure it's fine but if not, it's really poor. Next day delivery isn't any use to me so we cancelled that after the trial.
We're on Netflix now and of the three it's impressed me most. It's device agnostic so unlike Amazon Prime we can watch it on our phones, tablets, YouView box or stream it to the Chromecast. It has more films than I expected too, despite most people saying Prime was better for films.
I would say if you want the latest films, a NowTV box and Sky Movies pass is the best bet. Sky have by far the best film deals tied up.
If you have Amazon hardware then Prime and Netflix are probably about equal. If you don't, Netflix is far superior.
The dodgy boxes that let you watch films are available if you know the right bloke down the pub. Quality and connection vary quite a bit but not as much as you might expect and the speed at which films appear is quite amazing.
Because streaming services are so good these days, my piracy days are behind me so I don't bother. In the Napster days you could justify it by saying there was no credible alternative but these days there really is.
It's great living in the future
Then we tried the Amazon Prime trial and the content is alright but it's clumsy to navigate through and the hardware restrictions are annoying. If you already have an Amazon tablet or Fire Stick I'm sure it's fine but if not, it's really poor. Next day delivery isn't any use to me so we cancelled that after the trial.
We're on Netflix now and of the three it's impressed me most. It's device agnostic so unlike Amazon Prime we can watch it on our phones, tablets, YouView box or stream it to the Chromecast. It has more films than I expected too, despite most people saying Prime was better for films.
I would say if you want the latest films, a NowTV box and Sky Movies pass is the best bet. Sky have by far the best film deals tied up.
If you have Amazon hardware then Prime and Netflix are probably about equal. If you don't, Netflix is far superior.
The dodgy boxes that let you watch films are available if you know the right bloke down the pub. Quality and connection vary quite a bit but not as much as you might expect and the speed at which films appear is quite amazing.
Because streaming services are so good these days, my piracy days are behind me so I don't bother. In the Napster days you could justify it by saying there was no credible alternative but these days there really is.
It's great living in the future
durbster said:
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If you have Amazon hardware then Prime and Netflix are probably about equal. If you don't, Netflix is far superior.
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APV runs very well on Smart TVs and ATV, you don't need to have an Amazon specific device. If you have Amazon hardware then Prime and Netflix are probably about equal. If you don't, Netflix is far superior.
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Amazon content is better organised and simpler to search on my Sony TV than the Netflix app. On Apple TV it's the otherway round.
Long story short; Netflix is the better for US and some UK TV series, Amazon Prime Video is better for films.
Both have their own exclusive content, much of which is good. Netflix has things like Orange is the New Black and APV Extant.
LordGrover said:
APV runs very well on Smart TVs and ATV, you don't need to have an Amazon specific device.
Amazon content is better organised and simpler to search on my Sony TV than the Netflix app. On Apple TV it's the otherway round.
Yes good point. Our only option was watching it on our Blu-Ray player and the app on there was clumsy so we were using the website to find content, which is pretty bloody awful. I guess it'll vary per device then. Even so, I still think your hardware options are more limited with Prime than Netflix.Amazon content is better organised and simpler to search on my Sony TV than the Netflix app. On Apple TV it's the otherway round.
LordGrover said:
Long story short; Netflix is the better for US and some UK TV series, Amazon Prime Video is better for films.
Both have their own exclusive content, much of which is good. Netflix has things like Orange is the New Black and APV Extant.
The wife and I have found at least twice as many films to watch on Netflix than on Prime so perhaps it's just a matter of taste. I think Prime had more recent films though.Both have their own exclusive content, much of which is good. Netflix has things like Orange is the New Black and APV Extant.
We binned it after 6 months, the series were great (except The 4400, someone should tell you before you watch all the episodes they didnt finish it because of the writers strike) and they can be a bit late to bring in newer seasons of series (Person of Interest for me) but there werent really any decent films on there for the UK version.
The synopsis on pretty much anything was fairly obviously done by an intern on a Friday who really didnt give a s
t. Summing up one film was fairly similar to any other film in the short description, and neither really gave you any pointers as to whether it was worth watching.
The synopsis on pretty much anything was fairly obviously done by an intern on a Friday who really didnt give a s
t. Summing up one film was fairly similar to any other film in the short description, and neither really gave you any pointers as to whether it was worth watching. The 'dodgy box from a bloke down the pub' is a little misleading.
Using Kodi to stream TV/Video is a grey area as you are not downloading it and I seem to remember some European law stating this was ok.
If you want some good TV, get Kodi, Pheonix and then TNPB. They have a section called 'Best Of British' which has all the best old/new UK TV such as Benidorm, Ab Fab, Only Fools, Frost, Downton and pretty much everything I remember being on TV in the last 30 years.
For an easy option (which installs far too much content as you only need Genesis and Pheonix), head over to tvaddons ( http://www.tvaddons.ag/) and choose an install (Windows/Android/Mac etc) and away you go.
I have Kodi running on an Amazon Fire stick, Fire box, Android tablet and Windows tablet. To get it working on Android/Windows is just like installing any other program, get the installer, wait for a minute then job done.
There is a lot of 1080p content on there too, most films/tv (apart from new releases) are available in HD.
Using Kodi to stream TV/Video is a grey area as you are not downloading it and I seem to remember some European law stating this was ok.
If you want some good TV, get Kodi, Pheonix and then TNPB. They have a section called 'Best Of British' which has all the best old/new UK TV such as Benidorm, Ab Fab, Only Fools, Frost, Downton and pretty much everything I remember being on TV in the last 30 years.
For an easy option (which installs far too much content as you only need Genesis and Pheonix), head over to tvaddons ( http://www.tvaddons.ag/) and choose an install (Windows/Android/Mac etc) and away you go.
I have Kodi running on an Amazon Fire stick, Fire box, Android tablet and Windows tablet. To get it working on Android/Windows is just like installing any other program, get the installer, wait for a minute then job done.
There is a lot of 1080p content on there too, most films/tv (apart from new releases) are available in HD.
Edited by gr1340 on Wednesday 2nd September 12:57
Edited by gr1340 on Wednesday 2nd September 12:59
andy-xr said:
The synopsis on pretty much anything was fairly obviously done by an intern on a Friday who really didnt give a st. Summing up one film was fairly similar to any other film in the short description, and neither really gave you any pointers as to whether it was worth watching.
To be fair to Netflix I find the star ratings pretty accurate. After all they are generated by people just like you & I. If it's got a 2 star rating don't hold your breath. If it's 4.5 stars then it should be worth 90 minutes of your life.t. Summing up one film was fairly similar to any other film in the short description, and neither really gave you any pointers as to whether it was worth watching. Recently cancelled an £80 plus / month Sky contract and can't tell you how good it felt. Love the freedom Neflix gives you in terms of portability. Daughter has had ten times the monthly value out of Gossip Girl alone
XOXOHenry
gr1340 said:
The 'dodgy box from a bloke down the pub' is a little misleading.
Using Kodi to stream TV/Video is a grey area as you are not downloading it and I seem to remember some European law stating this was ok.
That sounds very convincing Using Kodi to stream TV/Video is a grey area as you are not downloading it and I seem to remember some European law stating this was ok.
Streaming is still downloading.
If you're not paying for paid content, it's piracy.
The laws around it are rubbish and the distribution of payment is ridiculous but people deserve to be paid for their work regardless.
gr1340 said:
Using Kodi to stream TV/Video is a grey area as you are not downloading
There is no grey area, if it's from a dodgy site then it's copyright infringement and in theory you could be prosecuted.You can legally rip your own content to a different media but if you have to break any copy protection to do it then it's illegal.
Will you be caught/prosecuted? probably not.
This is relevant.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance...
Dizeee said:
Amazon Prime I cannot stream to my telly though, as my TV runs on Wifi at the other end of the house rooms away from any connection. It is even on a boosted wifi signal.
What's the chances of them developing an app for my smart TV so I can watch it through that?
You probably want an Amazon Fire Stick then. Just plug it into a HDMI port and connect it it to your wifi.What's the chances of them developing an app for my smart TV so I can watch it through that?
Actually there could be some Grey as I just found this.
On 5 June 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) ruled that streaming illegal content online is legal in Europe. "As long as an Internet user is streaming copyrighted content online ... it’s legal for the user, who isn’t willfully [sic] making a copy of said content. If the user only views it directly through a web browser, streaming it from a website that hosts it, he or she is apparently doing nothing wrong."
Not sure about that interpretation myself but I think you'd be hard pressed to apply that ruling to streaming in Kodi.
On 5 June 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) ruled that streaming illegal content online is legal in Europe. "As long as an Internet user is streaming copyrighted content online ... it’s legal for the user, who isn’t willfully [sic] making a copy of said content. If the user only views it directly through a web browser, streaming it from a website that hosts it, he or she is apparently doing nothing wrong."
Not sure about that interpretation myself but I think you'd be hard pressed to apply that ruling to streaming in Kodi.
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