Microsoft Win10 Devices Event streaming

[KaraK]

I'm thinking the 950 is sat in the sweet spot to replace my long-suffering 920

[clonmult]

Frimley111R said:

Love this 'Continuum' device that means your phone is essentially your computer too! So as I am in the market for a new computer soon I could just buy a new Lumia instead.

Good overview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA9YsltyjX4

But ... remember that it won't run "legacy" Win32 apps - so its not quite a full computer. If an app is available in the "universal" form, then you should be fine.

I can really see Continuum being a huge benefit in the enterprise, so many people within corporates could definitely work from one device, no need to cart around a laptop and mobile. But it will be quite a big jump - not sure many would see the benefit.

[Tycho]

clonmult said:

Frimley111R said:

Love this 'Continuum' device that means your phone is essentially your computer too! So as I am in the market for a new computer soon I could just buy a new Lumia instead.

Good overview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA9YsltyjX4

But ... remember that it won't run "legacy" Win32 apps - so its not quite a full computer. If an app is available in the "universal" form, then you should be fine.

I can really see Continuum being a huge benefit in the enterprise, so many people within corporates could definitely work from one device, no need to cart around a laptop and mobile. But it will be quite a big jump - not sure many would see the benefit.

Agreed on the corporate part, most office users could get away with the Office suite and a browser. I could as all my testing docs and plans are in QC which has a web interface and Word etc.

[RacingBlue]

I was looking forward to the new Lumia devices, but now they've been revealed they look pretty underwhelming - a real step back from Nokia's lumia design language.

The new Surface devices look great however.

[R8VXF]

RacingBlue said:

I was looking forward to the new Lumia devices, but now they've been revealed they look pretty underwhelming - a real step back from Nokia's lumia design language.

The new Surface devices look great however.

As the owner of a yellow 1020, I agree. Pretty innovative with the liquid cooling for a phone though!

[Frimley111R]

RacingBlue said:

- a real step back from Nokia's lumia design language.

What does that mean?

[RacingBlue]

Meaning Nokia's designs looked pretty smart, and these rather generic looking.

[KaraK]

I'm really, really impressed with what I've seen of Continuum actually. Although the cynic in me suggests it will be this all over again

[KTF]

KaraK said:

I'm really, really impressed with what I've seen of Continuum actually. Although the cynic in me suggests it will be this all over again

Continuum been tried before with the Motorola Atrix and had limited success. Maybe the time is right for such a thing now.

[R8VXF]

KaraK said:

I'm really, really impressed with what I've seen of Continuum actually. Although the cynic in me suggests it will be this all over again

I fear that you may be right. Such a shame as MS are clearly on the front foot for once.

[ajprice]

Frimley111R said:

RacingBlue said:

- a real step back from Nokia's lumia design language.

What does that mean?

RacingBlue said:

Meaning Nokia's designs looked pretty smart, and these rather generic looking.

Yep, with the Nokia Lumia 920 for example, that was different from the iOS and Android phones, it stood out as something else (not just because it was bright red or bright yellow ) . The 950 looks like it could be an Android phone, or a HTC Windows phone.

[Russ35]

Looks like the back covers on the phones can be changed, so you could make them look a little less bland. Apparently there were some 3rd party vendors with their products.

[KaraK]

KTF said:

Continuum been tried before with the Motorola Atrix and had limited success. Maybe the time is right for such a thing now.

Ahh... I'd forgotten about the Atrix (which I suppose aptly demonstrates its 'success' or lack thereof ), if I remember rightly didn't it fire up a mini Linux distro? Fine for browsing etc but not in the same league for productivity as Win10M IMO and from what I've seen Continuum is a more "complete" and streamlined experience so you may well be right. What would probably drive it would be if there is enterprise uptake I'd have thought as most home users will already have a tablet or laptop kicking about the house so will probably just continue to use that rather than faff about plugging their phone into things.

[HARTLEYHARE1]

Have a lumia 930 and it does everything very well apart from sync photos to my iMac with ease hence why I have pre ordered a 6splus from Apple but now so tempted to wait and get the 950xl as it looks ahead of apple in terms of spec as the 930 was and is miles ahead of the 5 and 6.

[clonmult]

R8VXF said:

RacingBlue said:

I was looking forward to the new Lumia devices, but now they've been revealed they look pretty underwhelming - a real step back from Nokia's lumia design language.

The new Surface devices look great however.

As the owner of a yellow 1020, I agree. Pretty innovative with the liquid cooling for a phone though!

Liquid cooling .... Sony are using "heat pipes" in the Z5 range to keep temperatures down (and it apparently works quite well), and thats using the faster 810, rather than the 808.

I like the idea of the 950XL, and if the MS plan of more "universal apps" comes to fruition then it could make for a compelling platform. But the interface changes on the purely mobile experience that have killed off W10M for me, it just doesn't look or feel that good (on my L1020). And I want to move back to a smaller phone, so likely a Z5 Compact for me.

[Otispunkmeyer]

clonmult said:

R8VXF said:

RacingBlue said:

I was looking forward to the new Lumia devices, but now they've been revealed they look pretty underwhelming - a real step back from Nokia's lumia design language.

The new Surface devices look great however.

As the owner of a yellow 1020, I agree. Pretty innovative with the liquid cooling for a phone though!

Liquid cooling .... Sony are using "heat pipes" in the Z5 range to keep temperatures down (and it apparently works quite well), and thats using the faster 810, rather than the 808.

I like the idea of the 950XL, and if the MS plan of more "universal apps" comes to fruition then it could make for a compelling platform. But the interface changes on the purely mobile experience that have killed off W10M for me, it just doesn't look or feel that good (on my L1020). And I want to move back to a smaller phone, so likely a Z5 Compact for me.

YEah I would assume heatpipes... bit of stretch to call it liquid cooling if it is just heat pipes. I know they have liquid in but by that stretch, all laptops have had liquid cooling for donkeys!

Cool little heat transfer devices though heat pipes. Very efficient.

[ZesPak]

Surface book does look amazing, looks like a real powerhouse as well. Though, very expensive!

Surface pro 4 doesn't look like much of an upgrade? Colleague was waiting for it but now he might order the Pro 3 if the price drops (price of the 4 is slightly lower still!)

[R8VXF]

clonmult said:

Liquid cooling .... Sony are using "heat pipes" in the Z5 range to keep temperatures down (and it apparently works quite well), and thats using the faster 810, rather than the 808.

I like the idea of the 950XL, and if the MS plan of more "universal apps" comes to fruition then it could make for a compelling platform. But the interface changes on the purely mobile experience that have killed off W10M for me, it just doesn't look or feel that good (on my L1020). And I want to move back to a smaller phone, so likely a Z5 Compact for me.

I am actually really liking W10M on my 1020, think it has been done really well. The XL does use the 810 I thought, whilst the 950 uses the 808.

[clonmult]

R8VXF said:

clonmult said:

Liquid cooling .... Sony are using "heat pipes" in the Z5 range to keep temperatures down (and it apparently works quite well), and thats using the faster 810, rather than the 808.

I like the idea of the 950XL, and if the MS plan of more "universal apps" comes to fruition then it could make for a compelling platform. But the interface changes on the purely mobile experience that have killed off W10M for me, it just doesn't look or feel that good (on my L1020). And I want to move back to a smaller phone, so likely a Z5 Compact for me.

I am actually really liking W10M on my 1020, think it has been done really well. The XL does use the 810 I thought, whilst the 950 uses the 808.

Hamburger menus are a step back from the prior side swipe - there is a "single handed mode" which is similar to that used on iOS - and on there it looks a kludge, as it does on W10M.

Prior to installing W10M, I wiped my phone, went back through the various Cyan, Denim, etc. Installed only a few applications. And the store refuses to update some applications, it won't even let me delete them.

The swipe down menu is sluggish. No pureview processing on the standard camera application. It only records in full resolution. Apparently an update "is coming".

Overall the interface just isn't as nice as it was on WP8.1 (which was really rather slick in every possible way) - I'm really liking the W10 interface on both my laptop and tablet, but for me at least, they've taken a step backwards on W10M.

[KaraK]

clonmult said:

Hamburger menus are a step back from the prior side swipe - there is a "single handed mode" which is similar to that used on iOS - and on there it looks a kludge, as it does on W10M.

Prior to installing W10M, I wiped my phone, went back through the various Cyan, Denim, etc. Installed only a few applications. And the store refuses to update some applications, it won't even let me delete them.

The swipe down menu is sluggish. No pureview processing on the standard camera application. It only records in full resolution. Apparently an update "is coming".

Overall the interface just isn't as nice as it was on WP8.1 (which was really rather slick in every possible way) - I'm really liking the W10 interface on both my laptop and tablet, but for me at least, they've taken a step backwards on W10M.

This is depressing to read as I love the user experience on WP8.1 - to me it's the slickest of the "big three" by far so it'll be a shame if some of that gets lost in W10M