27" iMac 5K

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BGARK

5,494 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th October 2015
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Leithen said:
That article can't even get the name of the iMac correct and is entirely about PCs, not Macs.
Why not buy a decent PC and you still have change for several 4K Dell monitors!

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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BGARK said:
Leithen said:
That article can't even get the name of the iMac correct and is entirely about PCs, not Macs.
Why not buy a decent PC and you still have change for several 4K Dell monitors!
Because it's still a PC...

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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130R said:
t "just works" the same way any decent windows machine does
Nail on the head there, finding a "decent" windows machine is the problem.
Most of them are dreadfully slow bloat ware vessels.

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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Zoon said:
Nail on the head there, finding a "decent" windows machine is the problem.
Most of them are dreadfully slow bloat ware vessels.
That's a trivial non-issue. Zap and install from scratch.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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Another reason to get a RiMac.

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/10/30/4k-5k-imacs-10...

10 Bit Colour is a massive thing.

sparkyhx

4,151 posts

204 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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Richyvrlimited said:
for a 4k screen to only be a quarter of the resolution of a 5k screen, the latter would need to have a resolution of 16384 x 8640.

I don't think technology has got quite that far yet, though give it time it will no doubt.

5k screens are 5120 x 2880 pixels. 4k screens are 4096 x 2160

You can guess where the 4/5 bit comes from smile

This image (stolen from google images) shows quite nicely how much more screen real estate the various HD/UHD resolutions give

No it wouldn't, 16384 x 8640 is circa 142m pixels 5k is circa 15m pixels, 4k is circa 9m pixels

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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LordGrover said:
That's a trivial non-issue. Zap and install from scratch.
But something I don't need to do on a mac.

BGARK

5,494 posts

246 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
Because it's still a PC...
And an apple is just a logo...

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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BGARK said:
WinstonWolf said:
Because it's still a PC...
And an apple is just a logo...
I guess this isn't the thread for you then... wink

BGARK

5,494 posts

246 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
I guess this isn't the thread for you then... wink
Ha I knew I would get slated, everyone has been fairly gentle so far!

LDN

8,911 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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Great machines out the box - but for heavy video editing and the like; I'd still be going with a custom PCbuild from someone like pcspecialist. No bloat ware, no weird programs; just spec the PC online and it arrives - and works. I have two machines from them - both with 64gb RAM and basically the most / best I could spec on every level; three internal drives for media and processing etc etc; years of trouble free computing. It depends on what you're doing - for the odd video edit and the like, a new iMac will be more than up to the task of course.

Rosscow

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8,767 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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OK, I think we're going to go with the iMac.

One last thing - what external Blu-ray burner would people recommend? I need to be able to make HD back ups of family videos and photos.

Thanks!

marctwo

3,666 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Rosscow said:
OK, I think we're going to go with the iMac.

One last thing - what external Blu-ray burner would people recommend? I need to be able to make HD back ups of family videos and photos.

Thanks!
I wouldn't bother with a blu-ray burner. Just back up to a NAS or use a cloud backup service like CrashPlan.

Rosscow

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8,767 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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marctwo said:
Rosscow said:
OK, I think we're going to go with the iMac.

One last thing - what external Blu-ray burner would people recommend? I need to be able to make HD back ups of family videos and photos.

Thanks!
I wouldn't bother with a blu-ray burner. Just back up to a NAS or use a cloud backup service like CrashPlan.
I still need to be able to burn Blu-ray discs to give to relatives!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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I bought a Samsung USB one, works well so far. Backed up pictures to BluRay in 20 gig chunks no problem

Edit. SE-506CB/RSWD, you can check the specs on line if it is still sold. Year old now, I assume it is still sold.

Edit 2. Something about being careful with the model number rings a bell.

Edited by jmorgan on Monday 2nd November 10:47


Edited by jmorgan on Monday 2nd November 10:50

nyt

1,807 posts

150 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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marctwo said:
I wouldn't bother with a blu-ray burner. Just back up to a NAS or use a cloud backup service like CrashPlan.
NAS is ok unless something happens that affects both the PC and the NAS - fire or something.

The problem with cloud backup is that upload rates are usually low compared to download. My virgin connection barely hits 2Mb. So backing up masses of data isn't practical.

My solution is a pair of cheap hard disks which I leave with a relative. I back up my Mac and then swap disks when I see the relative.

If you do buy a blu-ray make sure that it is USB 3.0 and that it includes burning software for OS/X. I'm pretty sure that OS/X doesn't include burning software for Blu-ray.

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Rosscow said:
I still need to be able to burn Blu-ray discs to give to relatives!
Portable HD (around £35)

YouTube link

USB drive

Dropbox

etc etc



jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Did mine native. It just saw the blurray disc as was a dumped what I told it to there. USB 2 as well, which I knew at the time but looking at transfer/write speeds, I think I was not going to gain anything for USB 3?

Edit. I seem to remember reading that you need burning software for double layer and above burning etc. but to just burn to the standard capacity single layer it is OK with the mac?

Edited by jmorgan on Monday 2nd November 10:58

ZesPak

24,428 posts

196 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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hehe at the bluray, I don't envy you.

Other than that, the 5k Mac is good value for money, it's just a lot of machine as well.

If you're talking about a windows build at 2/3 of the price, you're probably talking about 4K and not 5K anyway. 5k screens are pretty rare and very, very expensive on their own.

We've run iMacs and Windows computers for ages, the iMacs always have nice screens that are almost on par with the Dell Ultrasharps we run. The main problem I took with them was when the iMac inevitably needed replacement. The seperate screens could easily survive 2 desktops before getting outdated.
It's just such a shame that when the desktop goes in 7 years, the screen has got to go as well frown, especially as the type of screen in the 5k iMac is worth easily £1000 now.

As for the scaling, more and more OSX and windows apps have got this straight. And high resolutions like this are the way forward so expect them all to adjust within a couple of years anyway.

Rosscow

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8,767 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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audidoody said:
Rosscow said:
I still need to be able to burn Blu-ray discs to give to relatives!
Portable HD (around £35)

YouTube link

USB drive

Dropbox

etc etc
Hmmm... I suppose so. There's still something about physical hard copies that I like! hehe