Iphone 7 ?

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essayer

9,009 posts

193 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Teppic said:
Yes, I'm on Three. The carrier settings were not updated.
I just updated from 10.0.2 and it went from 25.x to 26

Teppic

7,317 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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essayer said:
Teppic said:
Yes, I'm on Three. The carrier settings were not updated.
I just updated from 10.0.2 and it went from 25.x to 26
You're correct. I wasn't looking hard enough. smilebeer

It still hasn't solved the problem with 4G dropping to 3G when Voice and Data over 4G is enabled, though.

essayer

9,009 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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For a few hours this morning I was on 4G now it's back to 3G. I've set that switch to data only and it seems to vary between 1 dot 4G or 2 dots 3G, so certainly better than before.
Let's wait and see whether 3 or Apple fix anything rolleyes

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Sounds more like a mast issue, or they've tweaked the carrier profiles to switch to 3G sooner.

djdest

6,542 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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First portrait pic I took with the new setting this morning


craigjm

17,907 posts

199 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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What new setting is that?

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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djdest said:
First portrait pic I took with the new setting this morning

What am I missing? Have Apple now said they have invented portrait photos? hehe

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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It uses the two cameras to create a strong depth of field effect which would only be possible with a much larger sensor.

craigjm

17,907 posts

199 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Oh on the massive version of the phone hehe

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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craigjm said:
Oh on the massive version of the phone hehe
Yeah, it's a nice feature to be fair, it's not overly convincing in my quick tests compared to a DSLR, but for social media it's great to give images a bit more flair.

HoHoHo

14,980 posts

249 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Digitalize said:
It uses the two cameras to create a strong depth of field effect which would only be possible with a much larger sensor.
Depth of field has nothing to do with sensor size, it's all to do with the glass (lens) attached to the camera and the camera itself allowing you to play with the lens.

The aperture of your camera works in the same way as your eye. Wide aperture (big hole). Less in focus and a narrow aperture (small hole) gives more in focus. More digital SLR's allow you have have what's called Aperture Priority and that allows you to play with the depth of field whilst the camera automatically adjusts the shutter speed to compensate and therefore allow the photo to be correctly exposed.

Apple are only achieving their Bokeh effect through the use of two lenses and some crafty software.

It's not brilliant but it's equally not a bad attempt and will improve.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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HoHoHo said:
Depth of field has nothing to do with sensor size, it's all to do with the glass (lens) attached to the camera and the camera itself allowing you to play with the lens.
You couldn't be more wrong.

https://photographylife.com/sensor-size-perspectiv...

Sensor size has a direct correlation with depth of field, you'd need a ridiculously large aperture (I think it's something like f0.2) to get close to what f1.8 would look like on a full frame sensor.

Also, I know you didn't know this but I'm quite aware how a camera works, since it's my profession.


Edited by Digitalize on Tuesday 25th October 17:46

djdest

6,542 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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It is what it is, a nice effect and nothing more.
Anyone trying claim it's either better than a DSLR or not as good as one is missing the point

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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It's great for social media, which is what I'll be using it for. Extremely glad it works on more than just people too. Wish you could adjust the blur amount though, wouldn't mind dialling it back a little, have a feeling for example a car will be very blurry by the back, but then it is really designed for when a subject is only a foot or so deep.

onlynik

3,978 posts

192 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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essayer said:
Teppic said:
ETA: Since updating to iOS 10.1 I changed my setting back to Voice & Data over 4G and the problem remains., with my phone dropping back to 3G.
Hmm, will try that.
Are you on Three - did it update the carrier settings?
I've had this issue with 3 since day one on iOS 10 on iPhone 7.

Also had it with Singtel, where I had to play with the APN settings and turning 4G on and off to get it working. 4G doesn't seem to work for me at all on 3. When I do have 4G signal, there's no actual network connectivity.

Slightly annoyed.

HoHoHo

14,980 posts

249 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Digitalize said:
HoHoHo said:
Depth of field has nothing to do with sensor size, it's all to do with the glass (lens) attached to the camera and the camera itself allowing you to play with the lens.
You couldn't be more wrong.

https://photographylife.com/sensor-size-perspectiv...

Sensor size has a direct correlation with depth of field, you'd need a ridiculously large aperture (I think it's something like f0.2) to get close to what f1.8 would look like on a full frame sensor.

Also, I know you didn't know this but I'm quite aware how a camera works, since it's my profession.


Edited by Digitalize on Tuesday 25th October 17:46
I stand corrected beer

On my old 400d from many years ago I got good bokeh on a 50mm 1.8 and in my 5D MKII I get great bokeh on my 50mm 1.4.

I had no idea sensor size had a direct correlation.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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The difference between crop and full frame is noticeable, between a phone sensor and full frame it's astronomical.

The second camera is an effective 56mm at f20 from what someone worked out.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

178 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Just a warning in case this turns out not to be an isolated problem. Yesterday I updated my SE to 10.1, this morning the alarm doesn't work. It goes to the screen it has when ringing, but there is no sound

Craikeybaby

10,369 posts

224 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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My 7 is on 10.1 and woke me up as normal this morning.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

178 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I'm glad to hear it. I have no idea if it is due to the update or not but I thought I might as well pass it on

ETA: it looks like the fix is to delete old alarms and replace them with new ones. My new ones work but the three that I had already set were just silent this morning

Edited by Jimmy Recard on Wednesday 26th October 08:05