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It's not quite the floppy disk, or the DVD drive, but people moaned about them disappearing from PCs/Macs, but cutting through the whole "why are you removing functionality!" nonsense no one ever used floppies, and DVDs even now tend to only get used by the vast majority of people very, very infrequently for which a USB DVD drive perfectly suffices.
Apple will spin the removal of the jack as a positive thing - "more freedom when you're exercising" or something, and everyone present will fawn over them for it. "Apple did the thing no one had ever thought of before, once again", or something.
Meh
Apple will spin the removal of the jack as a positive thing - "more freedom when you're exercising" or something, and everyone present will fawn over them for it. "Apple did the thing no one had ever thought of before, once again", or something.
Meh
I'm mainly worried not because I want to get the next iPhone, but for the industry to follow. I've used bluetooth headsets but I much rather use my corded headphones these days, just bought a new pair of high-end headphones last year.
I use them daily on my laptop, phone and desktop. I'd hate for my next smartphone choice to be limited because half of the manufacturers would think it's a good idea to remove them.
You're probably right on the "they probably know how much users,...", but that's always the case. I know A LOT of people wouldn't be bothered having no webcam on their laptop. Or usb ports. Or a touchpad. Or the END, page up/down keys. So why not remove them all? You can always connect a peripheral or use an adapter if you really want any of these.
I use them daily on my laptop, phone and desktop. I'd hate for my next smartphone choice to be limited because half of the manufacturers would think it's a good idea to remove them.
You're probably right on the "they probably know how much users,...", but that's always the case. I know A LOT of people wouldn't be bothered having no webcam on their laptop. Or usb ports. Or a touchpad. Or the END, page up/down keys. So why not remove them all? You can always connect a peripheral or use an adapter if you really want any of these.
I use my phone as a music player a lot. My higher end headphones need to be cabled to plug into my amp. My phone needs to have a jack in order to plug the amp into. I use this setup a lot, especially when travelling. I'm not prepared to use the poor quality Apple earbuds and they don't stay in my ears anyway. None of them do which is why I have to have headphones not earphones. I'm also not faffing about carrying and connecting a separate jack adaptor every time, especially as I want to be able to charge the phone whilst using it. I can honestly see me buying a none Apple device next year when iPhones have always been my default choice.
I've been tied to Apple with having a small iTunes collection and my zeppelin dock but there's nothing stopping me using my iPad for the dock or even trading it in for a MuSo and I have Spotify Premium now so I can get my music that way. They're starting to lose their bargaining chips... All for the sake of a small standard jack plug.
I've been tied to Apple with having a small iTunes collection and my zeppelin dock but there's nothing stopping me using my iPad for the dock or even trading it in for a MuSo and I have Spotify Premium now so I can get my music that way. They're starting to lose their bargaining chips... All for the sake of a small standard jack plug.
ZesPak said:
You're not wrong but it's not the reason.
They don't do stuff "just because".
My 2 cents? Royalties on Apple-approved headphones.
I agree with this, however also because for product X that is due in Y years they would like to push users towards getting used to a certain way or doing things.They don't do stuff "just because".
My 2 cents? Royalties on Apple-approved headphones.
p1stonhead said:
Esseesse said:
pincher said:
Seems like a f
king stupid idea to divert away from an industry standard, just to save a millimetre 
It isn't about thinness, the iPod touch with 3.5mm jack was thinner than the phone. It may be partly about internal volume. I think it's possibly more to do with having earphones that can also work with the watch.king stupid idea to divert away from an industry standard, just to save a millimetre Edit: And then a few years later once the watch has gained a sim card and GPS, it will have replaced your phone all-together.
Edited by Esseesse on Wednesday 7th September 11:40
onlynik said:
HappySilver said:
I assume you are not able to use the Bluetooth headphones when flying as the phone will be in airplane mode? That will be a pain as I fly most weeks so will have to either carry around the headphone adapter or two pairs of headphones. That said, my iPhone 6 contract ran out a couple of weeks ago so I will be close to the front of the queue for a 7!
No reason you can't have Bluetooth on whilst in a plane. BA have the following information - All Bluetooth accessories (for example wireless keyboard, headphones, etc) may only be used during the flight but must remain switched off for taxi, take-off and landing.p1stonhead said:
I see what you mean but i would imagine it to be something simple like this (which I think is a leak);
Although people have already made third party designed adapters like this so it will probably fairly easy to keep things working;
I guess something like the second one would be the thing. The first one wouldn't charge the iphone whilst playing. I have a BMW bike with audio and you can't drive the iPhone from the handlebar controls unless you have the Y-lead, it needs the Lightning and the Audio connected separately Although people have already made third party designed adapters like this so it will probably fairly easy to keep things working;
boxst said:
jmorgan said:
It is going to be a bit marmite. I am interested to see which way it goes. The fanbois will be all over it like a rash because Apple, however I am interested in the functionality. Going to let the early adopters figure it out.
Now, how do you charge bluetooth earbuds?
The should have a lightning -> lightning cable to charge the buds from the phone whilst also being able to listen to music through them? Now, how do you charge bluetooth earbuds?
Wireless headphones that you have to chatge.
Extra expense to buy wireless headphones.
(Or will abble include a free pair in the box?)
Extra expense to buy 3.5 mm adaptor for those that already have good headphones.
Just seems like a eay of charging people to buy apple earbuds and adaptors, etc.
Guvernator said:
Extra cable\adaptor? People are moaning like it's a new thing. I used to have a draw full of cables for Apple and other electronic devices as they seem to change the charging\USB cable on almost every product iteration. Nothing new here tbh.
Havent they only changed it once? From 30 pin to lightning?p1stonhead said:
Havent they only changed it once? From 30 pin to lightning?
There's been a few iterations of the 30 pin over the years, as initially they only charged over Firewire and not USB, then it changed to allow charge over USB with a few more iterations along the way. It makes finding the correct cable for the Jaguar XF interface a bit of a lottery.p1stonhead said:
Guvernator said:
Extra cable\adaptor? People are moaning like it's a new thing. I used to have a draw full of cables for Apple and other electronic devices as they seem to change the charging\USB cable on almost every product iteration. Nothing new here tbh.
Havent they only changed it once? From 30 pin to lightning?
Bought a Thunderbolt 1 base for a hard drive for an older machine. Worked great, however bought a new iMac and it comes with Thunderbolt 2 that useless a different form and the adaptor I could get was a mare, slowed it down. Hard drive died recently so problem solved however Apple seem to have a way out of it, buy a new shinier iThing.
Time will tell, I hope it is an elegant solution.
Time will tell, I hope it is an elegant solution.
Digitalize said:
There's thoughts that some of those could be for future products, but wireless headphones, charging case, touch home button and OLED bar for the rMBP all look pretty certain. Raise to wake would be a nice little feature too.
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