Best email system to avoid hacking.

[essayer]

I think we are at the point where consumer hardware can be in the low 100s of billions of guesses per second, and state sponsored agencies are well into the trillions ? (If Snowden is to be believed..)

[768]

essayer said:

I think we are at the point where consumer hardware can be in the low 100s of billions of guesses per second, and state sponsored agencies are well into the trillions ? (If Snowden is to be believed..)

It's dependent upon the hashing algorithm (and increasingly, its parameters). As well as hardware.

[HappyMidget]

boxxob said:

ORM sql is not necessarily horrendous

Yes it is.

[768]

All sql is horrendous, the advantage to using an ORM is you (usually) don't have to look at it.

[rxtx]

HappyMidget said:

Yes it is.

Sometimes it is, but most of the time it isn't. I would point the blame at the developers that haven't given the ORM enough hints at the underlying relationships or, if the queries are complex and use a lot of database-specific features, use a stored procedure or raw SQL called through the ORM. Not all ORMs are created equal, either.

Depends where your business logic layer is, but the separation gives far more benefits compared to the one or two times you might have to step in.

[Skyedriver]

ORMs, DBs, SQLs

Do you ever wish you hadn't started what seemed like a simple question

Thanks for all the answers that I understood, I'm opening another email with one of the recommended alternatives and that'll be for close friends and family only, no goods bought, services, etc

[SystemParanoia]

Skyedriver said:

ORMs, DBs, SQLs

Do you ever wish you hadn't started what seemed like a simple question

Thanks for all the answers that I understood, I'm opening another email with one of the recommended alternatives and that'll be for close friends and family only, no goods bought, services, etc

there are no simple questions

[TonyToniTone]

bga said:

Sufficient large UK organisations have performed their own due diligence and come to the conclusion that Google Apps provides sufficient security for many of their operations. It also meets government requirements for anything below secret data classification.

This is either an example of groupthink, lobbying or just maybe that it is sufficient for these purposes.

I have worked at FTSE 100 companies that could not use google apps because they don't have UK data partition, they also couldn't guarantee which of their European data centers would host the data.

All govt bodies I have dealt with use impact levels rather official\secret\top secrey to decide where data is hosted an anything over IL1 should be stored in the UK, HMRC have raised some eyebrows using google.

Probably less to do with security and more to do with jurisdiction.