Macbook Pro (2016)
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silentbrown said:
W00DY said:
Very cool indeed. I hadn't realised quite how expensive the Surface range can be. Surface Book models seem to be a lot pricier than 'equivalent' 13" Macbook Pro...?craigjm said:
They are not really when you look at the size of the flash storage and memory and things. New ones released today also not on the websites yet.
'Base' i5 8GB/128GB : Macbook Pro: £999, Surface Book: £1,299'Top End' i7 16GB/1TB : Macbook Pro: £,2129, Surface Book £2,649
Surface is newer tech obviously (waits for tomorrow...) and has the touchscreen/stylus malarkey. I have no idea how Surface Book residuals are holding up...
craigjm said:
It was clear from the event today they were aiming at the designers that currently use macs
I'm going to be honest, after watching the demo and even after being a long time Mac user (22 years), I am blown away by what that machine offers. Apple still has the best OS IMO but they certainly seem to be dropping the ball with regard their hardware offerings for what was their core customer base when things were tough!Evolved said:
I'm going to be honest, after watching the demo and even after being a long time Mac user (22 years), I am blown away by what that machine offers. Apple still has the best OS IMO but they certainly seem to be dropping the ball with regard their hardware offerings for what was their core customer base when things were tough!
As said before, and backed up by nearly every move they make, they don't really care about the pro market anymore. Big bucks are found for them in people who want to pay premium for Apple, rather than pay premium for good gear. The phrase $ 2000 facebook machine springs to mind. We've seen loads of customers with design departments making the switch to Windows-based desktops over the past years, because the Mac Pro line is just gathering dust (and this isn't the first time that happened).Biggest problem for most is indeed the OS. I like both but prefer windows for a professional environment, in the end you put the designers in their third party software and there's very little in it between the different OS.
From what I've seen and the numbers we have, people at home are moving to Apple, while the professionals are moving to other brands, so the Apple market share stays pretty much the same but they have to cater for a much less demanding public.
ZesPak said:
... they don't really care about the pro market anymore. Big bucks are found for them in people who want to pay premium for Apple, rather than pay premium for good gear. The phrase $ 2000 facebook machine springs to mind.
.... in the end you put the designers in their third party software and there's very little in it between the different OS.
... they have to cater for a much less demanding public.
100% agree. I love Apple 'stuff' but I've been disappointed for a few years now. I don't want more emoji's, but they are now catering to the masses who are thrilled by this kind of sh*t..... in the end you put the designers in their third party software and there's very little in it between the different OS.
... they have to cater for a much less demanding public.
The new MS Surface Studio brings something VERY new and innovative to the scene. Wacom has had far too little competition for far too long. But that's way off topic.
I fear that the only major new thing for tonight's MBP presentation will be less weight, thinner screen, and a touch bar with finger print. Come on Apple, you know you can do better than this !
Perhaps we'll all be blown away...after all the 'hello again' statement should mean something as significant as the first time they said 'hello'. Here's hoping.
I must admit I am worried that this evening will be the usual incremental updates rather than true innovation.
The rMB was pretty cool but it's just a true realisation of the netbook genre.
We know Apple have the technology with the iPad Pro and Apple Pencil, it would be great to see them bring that technology to the desktop. Stylus based input is unrivalled for a lot of creative use. My workflow is fairly simple for what really benefits from a stylus but I could not go back now.
The rMB was pretty cool but it's just a true realisation of the netbook genre.
We know Apple have the technology with the iPad Pro and Apple Pencil, it would be great to see them bring that technology to the desktop. Stylus based input is unrivalled for a lot of creative use. My workflow is fairly simple for what really benefits from a stylus but I could not go back now.
Digitalize said:
I must admit I am worried that this evening will be the usual incremental updates rather than true innovation.
The rMB was pretty cool but it's just a true realisation of the netbook genre.
We know Apple have the technology with the iPad Pro and Apple Pencil, it would be great to see them bring that technology to the desktop. Stylus based input is unrivalled for a lot of creative use. My workflow is fairly simple for what really benefits from a stylus but I could not go back now.
A surface book functionality with stylus and removable tablet type screen but with Apple design so it closes properly and latest OS with decent spec would be a real winner. If we get incremental update then im off for a new surface bookThe rMB was pretty cool but it's just a true realisation of the netbook genre.
We know Apple have the technology with the iPad Pro and Apple Pencil, it would be great to see them bring that technology to the desktop. Stylus based input is unrivalled for a lot of creative use. My workflow is fairly simple for what really benefits from a stylus but I could not go back now.
I'm currently on a late 2011 MBP with 2.0 i7 quad core, 8GB RAM and two SSD drives, it works perfectly and is plenty fast enough for the things I do.
Part of me knows its got plenty of life in it, but another part of me wants to upgrade to a newer one.
Especially as with the Sierra release 2010 models were classed as obsolete and not supported any more.
Does that mean my 2011 would be the same next year? Who knows...
Do I go all out on a brand new one released today, or grab a bargain if they sell of the 2015 models.
A maxed out 2015 would still be a good upgrade, adding a faster/newer processor, more RAM, retina display, feedback touchpad etc.
Plus it would still have USB ports I can plug in things I use without needing a USB-C adaptor (assuming the new one only has C ports as speculated)
No doubt I will want the new one when I see it later.
One thing I do know, is that I will never buy another windows machine!
Part of me knows its got plenty of life in it, but another part of me wants to upgrade to a newer one.
Especially as with the Sierra release 2010 models were classed as obsolete and not supported any more.
Does that mean my 2011 would be the same next year? Who knows...
Do I go all out on a brand new one released today, or grab a bargain if they sell of the 2015 models.
A maxed out 2015 would still be a good upgrade, adding a faster/newer processor, more RAM, retina display, feedback touchpad etc.
Plus it would still have USB ports I can plug in things I use without needing a USB-C adaptor (assuming the new one only has C ports as speculated)
No doubt I will want the new one when I see it later.
One thing I do know, is that I will never buy another windows machine!
djdest said:
I'm currently on a late 2011 MBP with 2.0 i7 quad core, 8GB RAM and two SSD drives, it works perfectly and is plenty fast enough for the things I do.
Part of me knows its got plenty of life in it, but another part of me wants to upgrade to a newer one.
Especially as with the Sierra release 2010 models were classed as obsolete and not supported any more.
Does that mean my 2011 would be the same next year? Who knows...
Do I go all out on a brand new one released today, or grab a bargain if they sell of the 2015 models.
A maxed out 2015 would still be a good upgrade, adding a faster/newer processor, more RAM, retina display, feedback touchpad etc.
Plus it would still have USB ports I can plug in things I use without needing a USB-C adaptor (assuming the new one only has C ports as speculated)
No doubt I will want the new one when I see it later!
It depends if the 2010 models were classed as obsolete as they lacked hardware that was requisite for the OS to run, or just as a bit of housekeeping. To be honest I haven't even upgraded to Sierra yet, I don't see any real need to, partially because I can't be dealing with things breaking, FCPX despite being made by Apple isn't always the most stable of programs.Part of me knows its got plenty of life in it, but another part of me wants to upgrade to a newer one.
Especially as with the Sierra release 2010 models were classed as obsolete and not supported any more.
Does that mean my 2011 would be the same next year? Who knows...
Do I go all out on a brand new one released today, or grab a bargain if they sell of the 2015 models.
A maxed out 2015 would still be a good upgrade, adding a faster/newer processor, more RAM, retina display, feedback touchpad etc.
Plus it would still have USB ports I can plug in things I use without needing a USB-C adaptor (assuming the new one only has C ports as speculated)
No doubt I will want the new one when I see it later!
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