Macbook Pro (2016)

[HotJambalaya]

insane money, going to advise my friend that had been waiting for this to get the air and be done with it. Just a web surfing spread sheet machine for them anyway.

Irritated no iMac is due though, don't think I can hold off on that any longer

[ashleyman]

I was really hoping for a new 5K display to go alongside my Retina iMac. I think that's more needed than a 'toy' MBP.

I don't understand how they can totally remove USB from a 'Pro' spec machine. I'm one of the 'Pros' they're probably trying to market too and not a single one of my devices would work with the new MBP without an adapter of some sort, I couldn't even plug it into my current external Apple display (which needs updating) without an adapter.

The touchbar is a nice touch, but seriously, what Pro looks at a keyboard when working? I've memorised most keyboard shortcuts. If Apple want to help Pros they make the menu systems in the Menu bar easily accessible like on Windows when you press ALT or whatever it is. We don't need a mini screen with edit options that are already on screen and give me physical buttons any day. I like being able to skip song, change volume all from a static keyboard place. Not fiddle with Menus to get to them.

The expanded trackpad is nice but if they wanted to totally change the game they should have made that a retina display and had all of these new fancy features in there instead.

I seriously need a new MBP as my current one is a Non-Retina 2012 model and isn't fast enough for what I need it for. I'm tempted to just pick up an older Retina model off eBay or something instead of buying this new one.

Seriously feels like Apple isn't a company that caters to PROS anymore. Everything is becomgint o gimmicky and not about function.

[Trabi601]

Ynox said:

I love my Macs. Got a 2011 13" Air I'm writing this on and a 2013 15" pro as a work machine.

Will I buy another? Not sure. The prices are stupid frankly. Maybe it'll be an XPS or a Surface Book pro instead for me really.

My Core i7 MBP has the known graphics card issue. I will get it reflowed or even a new chipset fitted, as it's a seriously good machine.

However, I bought a MacBook Air lookalike Acer Chromebook a couple of months ago - have to be honest, for almost everything I do on my personal laptop, it's more than good enough.

[Durzel]

craigjm said:

Durzel said:

I pulled the trigger on the top spec one. I need to lie down.

4 grand? are you clinically insane?

Alas yes. Although I regretted the purchase immediately and cancelled it to reorder the 1TB version. Still eye wateringly expensive (£3200+ with HE discount), but I need a new laptop.

[Prohibiting]

Sorry guys but on page 19 someone posted a link to the Dell laptops and I've had a gander.

Does anyone rate the the Inspiron laptops? I'm looking at their top £800 one with 16GB RAM + 2TB HD.

http://m.dell.com/mt/www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-17...

Any feedback would be great. I'm a basic home office user btw.

[Murph7355]

Durzel said:

Alas yes. Although I regretted the purchase immediately and cancelled it to reorder the 1TB version. Still eye wateringly expensive (£3200+ with HE discount), but I need a new laptop.

You're still insane

I inventoried the software I use on the Mac in the run up to this in case I needed to switch and there's nothing that won't run on Windows. And as others have said, no one really "uses" the OS...it's all about the apps.

[GCH]

Also, no more glowing apple logo.

[leglessAlex]

Durzel said:

Alas yes. Although I regretted the purchase immediately and cancelled it to reorder the 1TB version. Still eye wateringly expensive (£3200+ with HE discount), but I need a new laptop.

Out of interest, why? Not being snarky, genuinely curious

Was it a case of you can afford it and you want it so why not, or is there some software that won't run on Windows that you have to use?

I mean, I have to admit I'm not sure I can name a Windows based machine that has the same combination of battery life, looks, performance and of course none of them use OSX but it just seems like £3,200 just isn't 'worth' it my any measure.

[Digitalize]

The price is a big thing, but as we saw with the Surface products it's more because of companies adjusting for exchange rate than anything else.

I'm also all for the USB-C/TB3 only ports. Bloody glorious! Yeah at first it will be useful to have a USB-A adapter around but I'm really glad Apple have got behind the USB-C port, because it means it might actually become the standard, I proper actual standard! And the idea of docking a machine with just one cable, in to a hub or monitor that charges and has all the ports I'd need is perfect. USB-C Hub, stick loads of USB-A ports on it and away you go, gigabit Ethernet, HDMI, whatever really.

Just a shame they're so astronomically expensive, and due to the ongoing shortage of innovation when it comes to CPU/GPU, not a whole lot faster than what they're replacing.

I'm glad the iMac/Mac Mini/Pro(?) haven't been mentioned yet, as it means they could be held off until new chipsets are available, significantly bump their spec up.

[doogle83]

13" with Touch Pad, 16GB RAM, i7 Processor was coming in at £2199. I've just bought the below as a Dell refurb, sure it'll tick all my boxes and saved a ton of cash (now allocated to my Sonos budget :P)

XPS 13
13.3 inch QHD+ (3200 x 1800) InfinityEdge Touch Display
Intel Core i7-6560U (4M Cache, up to 3.2 GHz)
512GB PCIe Solid State Drive
16 GB Memory
Intel 8260 2x2 802.11ac 2.4/5GHz + Bluetooth 4.1
1Yr Premium Support with Onsite

£1078!

www.dell.co.uk/outlet for anyone else interested in similar. These pop up quite frequently and Dell run additional offers on top from time to time.

Edited by doogle83 on Thursday 27th October 23:18

[ZesPak]

leglessAlex said:

I mean, I have to admit I'm not sure I can name a Windows based machine that has the same combination of battery life, looks, performance and of course none of them use OSX but it just seems like £3,200 just isn't 'worth' it my any measure.

Surface book?

[onlynik]

I see there's no refurbished Macbook Pro's available anymore. Maybe the people have spoken

There was a nice 18 month old one i7, 1tb. For £2.3k. Seems like good value.

[MikeGTi]

I'm a little bit underwhelmed, I have to say.

[Matt..]

I keep hearing the mention of the surface book. However, if you want a work machine then you need 16gb ram, and that makes the surface book more expensive than the new MacBook Pro! It's as though Apple and Microsoft and forcing prices up.

If you want cheap then the Dell XPS seems like the only option? But I'd assume it'll be terrible build quality and only last a few years!

[djdest]

John Lewis still has the 2015 at the old prices if youre quick.
£1999 for a 2.5ghz 15" MBP with 16gb ram and 512gb drive.
That spec on the Apple store has gone up to £2169 this evening!

Total piss take that they put up the prices of the old ones too
I might have to try to grab a 2015 refurb I think, looks like they're being snapped up quicker than they used to though!

As appealing as the Dell's might be spec/price wise, no amount of plus points can outweigh the grim reality of going back to windows. Something I will never do

[Rawwr]

Matt.. said:

However, if you want a work machine then you need 16gb ram

No.

[GCH]

onlynik said:

I see there's no refurbished Macbook Pro's available anymore. Maybe the people have spoken

There was a nice 18 month old one i7, 1tb. For £2.3k. Seems like good value.

Plenty in the US refurb store

[sjg]

Bikerjon said:

The price hike thing isn't just because of exchange rates/brexit though is it? It's a worldwide price hike across the board as far as I can see.

We've become so used to computers generally falling in price but with the cost of those MS surface studios announced yesterday and now these Macbooks today, it seems Apple and Microsoft are in a battle to reverse that trend!

At the lower end of MBP, yesterday a 13" i5 / 8GB / 256GB model cost $1499 + tax in the US, today's bottom-end MBP (no Touch Bar) is a newer but equivalent i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB storage and also costs $1499.

Here the old i5 / 8GB / 256GB was £1149, the new one £1449. But the amount of dollars you get for your pounds has tanked and could go further so that's factored in.

The cheapest Mac laptop you can buy now is a 13" Macbook Air, and that's the only model that scrapes under £1000.

Computers these days generally last longer, they've been plenty quick enough for a long time and the move to solid state storage means even slower ones feel very zippy. The differentiator is premium design and materials, and the premium end is where the better margins are. There's little point in competing down at the low end against the <£200 Chromebooks and the like.

[Blackpuddin]

What winds me up as a long time Mac user (going back to the integral Mac SE) is the feeling that I am constantly being financially penalised rather than rewarded for my brand loyalty.

[craigjm]

ZesPak said:

leglessAlex said:

I mean, I have to admit I'm not sure I can name a Windows based machine that has the same combination of battery life, looks, performance and of course none of them use OSX but it just seems like £3,200 just isn't 'worth' it my any measure.

Surface book?

exactly the surface books are 16 hours and yet the new macbooks are still 10