Speed up Windows 10?

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Richyboy

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3,739 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Any way to speed windows 10 up for basic internet browsing? Get it to use memory better so you can run a few things and not get loads of spinning wheels and pauses. For instance I can't seem to run youtube alongside anything else as it seems to slow everything down.

Got a damn i5 surface pro 4 and it runs like a Samsung nc10.

grumbledoak

31,528 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Chrome? It's quite a resource hog.

Richyboy

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3,739 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I'm using the Microsoft edge thing lol.

Fastdruid

8,631 posts

152 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Richyboy said:
I'm using the Microsoft edge thing lol.
Ditch it for chrome. Edge is better than IE but that's not saying much.

I still can't believe that MS can look at what is out there and *still* come up with such showers of st.

zedx19

2,726 posts

140 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Try CCleaner, failing that, refresh windows.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12415/win...

AJB88

12,366 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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In my experience on the above!

I'm a Linux and ChromeOS user.

On Linux I use Firefox or Vivaldi now, find Chrome has got bloated as hell now.

Had to use my parents Windows 10 machine the other day and much preferred Edge over Chrome.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Richyboy said:
Any way to speed windows 10 up for basic internet browsing? Get it to use memory better so you can run a few things and not get loads of spinning wheels and pauses. For instance I can't seem to run youtube alongside anything else as it seems to slow everything down.

Got a damn i5 surface pro 4 and it runs like a Samsung nc10.
No way that level of hardware should be performing poorly just browsing the web, it has a SSD and 8Gb of RAM FFS. Sounds like either your browser config or windows install is full of rubbish, how much free space do you have? If it was me I would do a clean reinstall of windows and start again, don't install anything else other than Chrome and try again.

GreigM

6,728 posts

249 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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tankplanker said:
o way that level of hardware should be performing poorly just browsing the web, it has a SSD and 8Gb of RAM FFS. Sounds like either your browser config or windows install is full of rubbish, how much free space do you have? If it was me I would do a clean reinstall of windows and start again, don't install anything else other than Chrome and try again.
Yup, something wrong with configuration of that machine, this isn't Windows 10 issue. We run Surface Pro 3s at work and have no issues like these.

ging84

8,880 posts

146 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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is it 8G though?
i seem to see them listed as available with 4 and that would make a big difference

P4ulB

560 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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ging84 said:
is it 8G though?
i seem to see them listed as available with 4 and that would make a big difference
You can get the i5 with either 4GB (128Gb SSD) or 8GB (256Gb SSD).

I've got the 8GB version and it goes like the clappers - having only 4GB will make a difference, but should still be decent.

Sounds like there's some stuff which needs clearing down if it's that slow.

Richyboy

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3,739 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Yeah it's 4gb i5 128gb.

I have a memory card in the slot at all times, not sure if that could be an issue.

ZesPak

24,426 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Something is completely off. Have you checked the performance monitors of something that's being a resource hog? (RAM, CPU, disk,...)

Could be a badly scheduled virus scan or backup program...

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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even the 4gb should be able to web browse and run youtube.

I've currently got 10 firefox tabs open, visual studio, running IIS, sql server, sql management studio skype business, outlook, media player, chrome with 15 tabs etc and am only using 5.3gb ram

Something is screwy on that PC and using up resources. probably st installed sometime since you got it.

ging84

8,880 posts

146 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I disagree
Not sure how many of you really are running windows 10 on anything with 4gig or memory, but my experience is that modern browsers running video very easily eat thier way through all the memory if you have 4gig or less, and presumably this machine will also be dedicating a certain amount of memory to the onboard graphics, so will be less than 4gig.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Download and run Sysinternals to see where your resources are being used and report back

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/b...

It's usually disk IO that kills performance so add the IO counter and sort d spending to get the most expensive, disk hungry processes. Anything like iCloud, or Onedrive is usually a nightmare but it's easy to spot and you can kill processes to see if it makes a difference. Refresh windows is effective but a bit of a blunt instrument tbh.

Matt100HP

250 posts

116 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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ging84 said:
I disagree
Not sure how many of you really are running windows 10 on anything with 4gig or memory, but my experience is that modern browsers running video very easily eat thier way through all the memory if you have 4gig or less, and presumably this machine will also be dedicating a certain amount of memory to the onboard graphics, so will be less than 4gig.
I agree, I've just had a look and my W10 laptop with 4 Chrome tabs (including one 1080p YouTube video), task manager, Steam (no actual games) and my VPN program open was using ~4.5GB of RAM. That's not a problem to me as I have 8GB of RAM, but I assume it could cause some pretty horrid slowdowns if you only had 4GB.

Unfortunately, despite the high price of the Surface Pro, the lower end machines actually have, performance wise, the hardware specs of a £300-400 laptop. Sure, the build quality is leagues better and the display isn't a horrid 15.6" 1366x768 panel, but that doesn't make it any more powerful.

I'd argue that the minimum amount of RAM any modern PC or laptop should have for pleasant operation is 8GB, even my phone has 6GB of RAM!

Bikerjon

2,202 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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There's a long outdated school of thought that if you only use a computer for a bit of web browsing and email you don't need much memory (or even much of a computer). However web browsers do so much more these days than they ever used to which means 4GB can fairly easily be exceeded.

Edited by Bikerjon on Tuesday 6th December 20:40

ging84

8,880 posts

146 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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RobDickinson said:
even the 4gb should be able to web browse and run youtube.

I've currently got 10 firefox tabs open, visual studio, running IIS, sql server, sql management studio skype business, outlook, media player, chrome with 15 tabs etc and am only using 5.3gb ram

Something is screwy on that PC and using up resources. probably st installed sometime since you got it.
How are you defining using ?
Are you working off what windows tells you is 'In use' or also including what it calls Standby ?
The standby element can often be as large or larger, and can be equally or even more important to performance.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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standby ( cached.... ) is 2 gig.
but I am running 2 browsers and much dev tools.
way more than the OP should be

ZesPak

24,426 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Matt100HP said:
I agree, I've just had a look and my W10 laptop with 4 Chrome tabs (including one 1080p YouTube video), task manager, Steam (no actual games) and my VPN program open was using ~4.5GB of RAM. That's not a problem to me as I have 8GB of RAM, but I assume it could cause some pretty horrid slowdowns if you only had 4GB.
That's a skewed perspective, your system uses it because it has plenty. It keeps things in memory that you might need.
Win 10 will have plenty for webbrowsing, seen a fair number of machines over half a decade old with 4gb that run plenty fast. What the Op is describing is not normal behavior.