How do you manage your home computer backups?

How do you manage your home computer backups?

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jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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I am OK then. My pics and my bocuments.

techguyone

3,137 posts

141 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Looks like almost everyone who's posted is an Apple user, I had no idea they were so popular

Matt..

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3,586 posts

188 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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alock said:
If your backup set contains just a single file you didn't create, chances are it is covered by copyright that doesn't give you the right to copy it to a server. Apple (and most other providers) would be justified in deleting your entire account.

If you manage your own backup, you would still be in breach of copyright, but you would be able to manage the situation if required.
I personally only store my own documents and photos so am not concerned by such terms.

However, this situation is where encrypted backups are perhaps advantageous to some. Though it could be argued that they raise suspicion levels with cloud storage providers.

essayer

9,009 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Realistically nowadays - other than your own documents, pictures etc - what kind of copyrighted content would you want to back up? No software packages should require backing up nowadays. Books maybe?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Matt.. said:
I personally only store my own documents and photos so am not concerned by such terms.

However, this situation is where encrypted backups are perhaps advantageous to some. Though it could be argued that they raise suspicion levels with cloud storage providers.
Something that concerns me slightly. My other service encrypts on the local machine then transmits to the cloud encrypted.

Max5476

978 posts

113 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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techguyone said:
Looks like almost everyone who's posted is an Apple user, I had no idea they were so popular
Clearly not very reliable, they require loads of banking up.

I'm not very good at backing up data (hence i lost 2 months of photos on my phone when my microSD card corrupted)

I have the windows 10 file back up turned on to an ext hard drive, google drive for syncing files between desktop and laptop, and every now and then I do a system restore onto a different ext hard drive, however that's probably 6 months out of date!

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Nothing on any clouds.*

Data spread across two RAIDed NAS drives in th basement.

Primary data backup to another RAIDed NAS offsite (garden room at the end of the garden). Windows system images plus straight copies all all four computer's C: drives also backed up to this NAS.

Important stuff (photos, videos of the kids, scanned documents etc) also backed up to a secondary external USB drive in the house.

Photos backed up again to a tertiary external USB drive in the house.

All backups (except windows system images) done with bvckup, every 24 hours.

Less paranoid now than I used to be.

* except photos taken on iPhones.

mikef

4,823 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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All key documents, projects, photos and videos on (soft) RAID mirrored drives

Hourly file history (Windows) file backups to internal drive and time machine (Mac) to alternating internal drive and a dedicated Synology NAS in SHR (RAID 5)

Daily encrypted backups of key documents and projects to big internal drives using Acronis 2017

Weekly backups of key documents and projects to Synology NAS in RAID 10

Weekly encrypted backups of system disks to same Synology NAS in RAID 10 using Acronis 2017

Weekly encrypted backups of key documents and projects to Acronis Cloud

Monthly encrypted backups of system disks to Acronis Cloud

Occasional incremental backups of photos and videos to Acronis Cloud

Occasional backups of system disks to external SATA drive

Weekly copies of key documents and projects to 3x 256GB USB thumb drives in rotation, kept offsite

Occasional backups of key documents and projects to BD disks, kept offsite

It keeps nagging me that I must be missing backing something up

SWAT78

1,079 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Thanks to the OP and contributors prompting me into action! Had been backing up all in my house - all phones, cameras etc copied to desktop PC then backed up on external drive.

Have been an Amazon Prime customer for a couple of months but didn't know about Drive. Now I do, and now all the photos of family are there. Cheers!

Roger645

1,728 posts

246 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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alock said:
I would guess that the vast majority of people who rely on a cloud backup are in breach of the terms of service. Some people are happy to ignore this, others think it's too risky for a backup service.

As an example.
https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/iclo...

Apple Terms and Conditions IV.B.e said:
You agree that you will NOT use the Service to engage in any copyright infringement or other intellectual property infringement (including uploading any content to which you do not have the right to upload)...
If your backup set contains just a single file you didn't create, chances are it is covered by copyright that doesn't give you the right to copy it to a server. Apple (and most other providers) would be justified in deleting your entire account.

If you manage your own backup, you would still be in breach of copyright, but you would be able to manage the situation if required.
Just because you are copying a file that someone owns the copyright on does not mean you are committing an infringement of that copyright. You may have the right and on that basis I don't see that Apple would just delete your account.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Apple will probably lose a lot of money that way as accounts are shut (they are a bit Scrooge), probably looking the other way unless it becomes serious.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

197 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Ive started using Drive last night

https://github.com/odeke-em/drive

Is anyone already using it with multiple google accounts?

Luca Brazzi

3,974 posts

264 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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What do you think about using a service like Backblaze

https://www.lifewire.com/backblaze-review-2617894

It's an unlimited type of offer. No capacity limit, and $50 per year.
A summary of key features:
File Size Limits: No
File Type Restrictions: No, but only after removing the default exclusions
Fair Use Limits: No
Bandwidth Throttling: No
Operating System Support Windows 10, 8/8.1, 7, Vista, & XP; Mac OS 10.6+
Native 64-bit Software Yes
Mobile Apps: iOS and Android
File Access: Web app and mobile apps
Transfer Encryption 256-bit
Storage Encryption 128-bit AES (key stored with 2048-bit RSA)
Private Encryption Key Yes, optional
File Versioning Limited, 30 days
Mirror Image Backup No


Am I missing something or does this look pretty good ?

As I mentioned yesterday, I'm looking for around 4-6Tb to backup with versioning, using MacOS, home use.

Edited by Luca Brazzi on Friday 20th January 09:24

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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I am using Spideroak.

https://spideroak.com
https://spideroak.com/about/price-list
https://spideroak.com/features/zero-knowledge

Not sure where the info you require is but should be in there somewhere. I will say it takes a while to process and upload, encryption being done on the local machine.

Versioning is as long as I do not delete it I think.

Unlimited devices.

However, I had a small size bought and happened on a one day only sale for unlimited storage at that same price for life. So this may be a little pricy in comparison.

link to a comparison on wiki

Usual caveat, it is wiki. And I have only one company experienced however I did try the free trials of the usual suspects, that might be useful in your search.

Edited by jmorgan on Friday 20th January 09:38