How to free up the roads, reduce stress, and save the planet

How to free up the roads, reduce stress, and save the planet

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CanoeSniffer

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927 posts

87 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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*WARNING- THE FOLLOWING HAS BEEN INFLUENCED BY BEER AND A LARGE HELPING OF TOP GEAR MATHS*


So following another 'orrible commute home, full of A grade numpties bimbling along to their various destinations via a selection of stupid, absent-minded and downright dangerous manoeuvres, a beer-induced constructive debate ensued.

Now I've only been driving a New York minute by most people's standards, and I'm by no means an angel, but there are just too many motherfkin' idiots, on our motherfkin' roads. Driving becomes stressful, free-flowing rivers of Tarmac become gridlocked nightmares, and I live forever in fear of dying an agonising death with a Vauxhall badge imprinted on my forehead.

The solution? Make the driving test, a test. I'm talking advanced car control, pre-planning and reaction times, and a serious emphasis on smoothness. Something that cannot possibly be fluked. Will Joe Average be able to pass it? Probably not. But competent drivers will. And if we're to command 2-tonne machines capable of over a hundred miles an hour, isn't that exactly what we should be?

But how will Joe be able to get to work, I hear you say? Well, beer has an answer for that. Mr Average will take the train. Massive amounts of money from all the average commuters being plowed into a government-owned infrastructure. A key point- this must be organised so that this money actually finds its way into the government coffers and not into Mr rail-franchise fat cat's pockets. Something that already needs addressing now, truth be told. This huge turnover in cash can then provide vital infrastructure upgrades to the full-to-capacity routes, making them capable of meeting the extra demand.

But what if Mr Average lives nowhere near the station, I hear you cry? Beer has it covered. Even if he lives out of reach of his local councils expansive bus routes, he will get a taxi. How many taxi companies have emerged in the last few years putting emphasis on using hybrid and electric cars? I've seen plenty. Government subsidy for 'leccy-utilising companies will provide affordable taxi transport so that the average commuter can make a renewable energy, greenie-friendly journey to work.

But what if this makes a journey into work for the average commuter long and arduous, I hear you desperately plead? Trust in beer. Is this not an incentive for these people? Joe will know that if he gets his st together and brings his standard of driving up to scratch, he will be able to own his very own car and will be free to use it as he wishes. Every disused runway, every open space in the UK, a training ground. People actually learning true driving skill in a bid to earn a licence.

An improved rail system providing faster, more efficient journeys. Better drivers making driving less stressful and accidents less frequent. Cheaper car insurance due to 17-year olds not being able to fluke their test and crash at free will. A larger proportion of electric to internal combustion cars on the roads day-to-day meaning happy eco-hippies and less sanctions for gas-guzzlers. A network of genuinely good drivers trustworthy enough for the monopoly of speed cameras to be lifted. And clear roads for us, as truly competent drivers, to enjoy our wonderful machines here and now before they're wiped out completely.

Job done.

Evanivitch

20,075 posts

122 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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You filthy Communist.

Triumph Man

8,690 posts

168 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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so we end up with loads of taxis clogging the roads instead?

CanoeSniffer

Original Poster:

927 posts

87 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Triumph Man said:
so we end up with loads of taxis clogging the roads instead?
Only for the country bumpkins who can't jump straight on a bus or a train wobble

ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Single biggest cause of accidents is lack of observation
If they want to make the driving test harder which they should, this is what they need to continue to focus on, driver skill in handling the dynamics of a car and reaction times are almost completely irrelevant because they do not come into ordinary sensible driving.
If you regularly feel you need to rely on your reactions or advanced car control at any point in your journeys, you are the one doing it wrong and are probably at least 50% to blame in every dangerous situation you find yourself in.

A motorway network which everyone could safely and comfortably drive at 100mph+ does not require any increase in driver skill, just an improvement in observation would be enough.

HazzaCrawf

142 posts

126 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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CanoeSniffer said:
And if we're to command 2-tonne machines capable of over a hundred miles an hour, isn't that exactly what we should be?
Ah, but you can only drive at 70mph maximum, so what would be the point in training people to be able to command them at these speeds? wink

CanoeSniffer

Original Poster:

927 posts

87 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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HazzaCrawf said:
Ah, but you can only drive at 70mph maximum, so what would be the point in training people to be able to command them at these speeds? wink
Oh apologies- 2 tonnes at 70mph, far less lethal biglaugh

Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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I have a better one. Make road tax £10k per annum and subsidise public transport. Then delimit the motorway aswell.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

130 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Odd, I think the problem is living in the heavily overly populated parts of the country, maybe not be so obssesed with the city.

I've been driving 7 years and aside from a few middle aged woman driving jukes with no lights on, I've never experienced road rage, and I drive 25k a year

richs2891

897 posts

253 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Triumph Man said:
so we end up with loads of taxis clogging the roads instead?
Thats a scary thought, followed one most of way home today, terrible driving, all over the road, any right hand bends both drivers side wheels at least a foot over the white line.
1st time I've ever reported a driver for bad / dangerous driving

Triumph Man

8,690 posts

168 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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richs2891 said:
Triumph Man said:
so we end up with loads of taxis clogging the roads instead?
Thats a scary thought, followed one most of way home today, terrible driving, all over the road, any right hand bends both drivers side wheels at least a foot over the white line.
1st time I've ever reported a driver for bad / dangerous driving
Indeed, exactly why I mentioned it as taxi drivers on the whole are not known for their driving prowess... I don't claim to be perfect, but some of the taxi drivers I have seen have been appallling!

steve-5snwi

8,665 posts

93 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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An improved rail system ? Friday I missed my flight because the train was 50 minutes late then they decided to cancel, I had to hire a car and drive to another airport. Today the trains were all delayed because someone decided to throw themselves under one and on an earlier train I had to push my way through the crowd to get off somehow I feel we have some way to go.

swisstoni

16,997 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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A simpler question the OP could have asked is where the hell is everyone going all the time?
What became of working from home? Videoconferencing? All that stuff ...

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Best way of reducing stress and the number of cars on the road would simply be "not going to work. Ever."

Pints

18,444 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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swisstoni said:
A simpler question the OP could have asked is where the hell is everyone going all the time?
What became of working from home? Videoconferencing? All that stuff ...
How are we expected to commute to and from the pub?

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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forzaminardi said:
Best way of reducing stress and the number of cars on the road would simply be "not going to work. Ever."
Yes I think you might just have nailed it !! we could tax the rich so everyone else doesn't have to work ,,,, Yay .... tongue out

Swanny87

1,265 posts

119 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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The problem will be cured by self driving cars/remote working in the next few years!

Type R Tom

3,864 posts

149 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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More people cycling would solve most of the points in the title.

heebeegeetee

28,735 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Type R Tom said:
More people cycling would solve most of the points in the title.
+100%.

Why does the OP think taxi drivers would pass his driving test?

SturdyHSV

10,095 posts

167 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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CanoeSniffer said:
The solution? Make the driving test, a test. I'm talking advanced car control, pre-planning and reaction times, and a serious emphasis on smoothness. Something that cannot possibly be fluked. Will Joe Average be able to pass it? Probably not. But competent drivers will. And if we're to command 2-tonne machines capable of over a hundred miles an hour, isn't that exactly what we should be?
As has already been alluded to, you're assuming the problem is caused by other people lacking what you feel are your skills.

It isn't a matter of car control and driving 'skill' as applicable to a track that makes a good driver on the road.

It's observation.

That and driving under the fairly safe assumption that every other driver is an incompetent fkwit who is guaranteed to do the stupidest thing imaginable at every single given moment, probably because they either think they're a driving god, or simply aren't thinking at all.