What are the chances that a GT4RS will be launched at Geneva

[rkwm1]

What are the chances that a GT4RS will be launched at Geneva?

Over the past couple of months a few articles have appeared saying that a car is in the pipeline. This along with the Instagram post from Porsche Brisbane a couple of days ago and a few tweets i have seen, make me believe that it is very possible that we will see it launched at Geneva.

A similar marketing strategy was used when the GT4 was launched. Although spy shots of the GT4 appeared in August/Sept 14 and it was a open secret that it was coming, a few months before Geneva, the GT4 appeared on a Porsche website (i don't think it was PGB). It was advertised in the PEC section as one of the cars and then swiftly removed once picked up by the press. A few weeks later a official Porsche video was released of a guy driving a 911 around a garage and driving past a covered GT4.

I don't think it would have been that difficult for Porsche to have built one and kept it a secret.

They also have no need to build up hype around a GT4RS as they know demand would far outstrip supply, so why not do a surprise launch?

I love my GT4 but a 4.0 litre, 430-440bhp, GT4 with improved gearing. Now thats a car i'd keep for a long long time!

It could be a case of the new guy had the password to Porsche Brisbane's Instagram and he thought he'd have some fun and i'm totally wrong, which wouldn't be the first time, but i for one will have my deposit ready to be transferred from now.

Edited by rkwm1 on Thursday 16th February 12:54

[Twinfan]

Zero chance I reckon. The dealer was probably just repeating the South African sourced rumour that appeared again in December, which I think is just a conversation that's been taken out of context and misreported.

[chrisABP]

I am still very much of the opinion that any future GT4 or RS rendition in a 718 chassis will be a 4 cylinder turbo unit.
Don't see how/why Porsche would re-engineer the 718 chassis to accept a 6 cylinder N/A engine for what will be a niche low volume car.
Lets wait and see, i'm happy to be proven wrong!

[cypriot]

zero chance. the 718 GTS models haven't even been announced yet, and there is absolutely no chance that porsche would release a GT4RS based on the 981 GT4. Also, I don't see porsche announcing a GT4RS without first releasing a GT4 based on the 718.

[GT4P]

Zero! But like everyone else would love a n/a 430hp flat6 in gt4 form but can't see it happening ever!
But all is not lost for about £5k the current GT4 could be turned in to more of a riot!

[rkwm1]

Fair enough. I guess i'll have to keep dreaming about one for a bit longer!

Out of interest why could they not build a 981 RS?

[n17ves]

100% zero!

[Twinfan]

rkwm1 said:

Out of interest why could they not build a 981 RS?

The 981 series model is out of production, the factory only produces 718 (982 series) Caymans now. They won't build a 991.1 based 911 again either.

My only wonder is whether Porsche is still producing the GT4 Clubsport, which is 981 based with the 3.8ltr flat six and has PDK. You have the basis of an RS right there...

[rkwm1]

Twinfan said:

The 981 series model is out of production, the factory only produces 718 (982 series) Caymans now. They won't build a 991.1 based 911 again either.

My only wonder is whether Porsche is still producing the GT4 Clubsport, which is 981 based with the 3.8ltr flat six and has PDK. You have the basis of an RS right there...

So there is hope!?

Especially if it is going to be extremely limited.

Edited by rkwm1 on Thursday 16th February 14:22

[Twinfan]

I would still say it's highly unlikely but if they don't announce it at Geneva or early this year it won't ever be coming as a flat six.

I think given the 718 branding push to moving the Cayster (4-pot) away from the 911 (6-pot) means it won't happen.

[rkwm1]

Twinfan said:

I would still say it's highly unlikely but if they don't announce it at Geneva or early this year it won't ever be coming as a flat six.

I think given the 718 branding push to moving the Cayster (4-pot) away from the 911 (6-pot) means it won't happen.

Fingers crossed then!

[Twinfan]

woollyjoe said:

When you see test mules you can get excited.

Exactly, and we haven't seen a single one unlike the GT3 or GT2.

[mdianuk]

woollyjoe said:

Porsche won't release more than one GT car at a time...

Didn't they release both the GT4 and GT3RS at Geneva at the same time a couple of years back?

If there was a GT4RS coming to Geneva, then it would be based upon modifications to the 981 Clubsport still being built, and would be so damn limited none of us existing GT4 owners would get a look in!

[rkwm1]

mdianuk said:

Didn't they release both the GT4 and GT3RS at Geneva at the same time a couple of years back?

If there was a GT4RS coming to Geneva, then it would be based upon modifications to the 981 Clubsport still being built, and would be so damn limited none of us existing GT4 owners would get a look in!

Yes they did launch at the same time.

How limited, a couple of thousand or less?

Edited by rkwm1 on Thursday 16th February 14:53

[rkwm1]

woollyjoe said:

Nope. Although they may have both been at Geneva. From memory the GT4 was announced in Feb - GT3RS at Geneva.

I think it shows how unexpected the GT4 success was - they didn't think it worthy of Geneva maybe?

Yes you are right it was announced a few weeks before when the Evo video came out, but i think that splitting hairs. I think the first time that most of the worlds press got to get up close was Geneva.

[Oso]

I checked my messages with my OPC. GT4 was announced 4th February 2015. It was on the stand in Geneva with GT3RS a few weeks later - I went out there to see it in the metal.

If memory serves it was a bit of PH scoop - it was on the PH homepage before it was on the Porsche site.

[n17ves]

Oso said:

I checked my messages with my OPC. GT4 was announced 4th February 2015. It was on the stand in Geneva with GT3RS a few weeks later - I went out there to see it in the metal.

If memory serves it was a bit of PH scoop - it was on the PH homepage before it was on the Porsche site.

Correct, and this was the email I received on the 4th Feb '15....



Porsche is proud to announce a new addition to its line of revered GT high performance models, the new Cayman GT4.

This is the first time Porsche has introduced such a focused GT model on the mid-engined, two-seater Cayman Coupe and it will celebrate its world premiere in March at the Geneva International Motor Show.

Developed at the company's Motorsport department in Weissach, the Cayman GT4 is the most powerful model in the Cayman range. Its core features are a 3.8-litre flat-six engine that develops 385 hp, a 6-speed manual gearbox, chassis components tested on the race track, down force orientated aerodynamics and of course, the perfectly balanced mid-engine concept.

Pricing for this new model is as follows:

Cayman GT4 - £64,451.00 including VAT

[mdianuk]

woollyjoe said:

Nope. Although they may have both been at Geneva. From memory the GT4 was announced in Feb - GT3RS at Geneva.

I think it shows how unexpected the GT4 success was - they didn't think it worthy of Geneva maybe?

You can count them both as being launched at the same time; major shows are key for worldwide audiences so I would argue that both were launched at that same time.

"worthy of Geneva"? Well, they announced it early, as they did with the 991.1GT3 (in February), so I doubt popularity made any difference.

Equally, we may find that the 991.2GT3 is released in the next week or two anyway, which could open up the GT4RS to a Geneva announcement.

That being said, I don't think there will be one in the next 2 years; the hype comes from an Aus dealership most likely looking to click bait. If it does, I'll give the dealer principle my GT4 free in exchange for a slot!!!

[Fokker]

We'd have seen something being tested surely?

The 3.8 flat 6 will fit into the 718 chassis as has been said a to on here. i suppose you can't rule it out but I'd be very surprised.

[mdianuk]

Fokker said:

We'd have seen something being tested surely?

A base GT4 testing with a larger 4.0 engine and some trick suspension wouldn't raise any eyebrows; the brakes are powerful enough and any body revisions wouldn't necessary have to be tested on the open road...still think it is unlikely though.