How much for a new engineered wood floor?
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I know this is a 'how long is a piece of string' kind of question, but ...
I'd like to get my downstairs floor replaced with American black walnut engineered wood planks, so I've started getting quotes. The first one has come in and I need to know if my expectations are massively out.
approx 40m2 of 21/6mm thick x 190m wide x 1900mm long engineered walnut
2-3 days labour
- remove the old floor
- supply and fit dpm
- secret nail (or float) the boards
- thresholds to fireplaces and doorways
Victorian house, if that makes a difference, with all its nooks and crannies; not a square new-build, anyway.
Quote is 5400 + 1080 VAT = 6480. Which seems a lot, since I was thinking of maybe 4000 at most, but I don't know if I'm clueless, or it's an attempted mugging
Edited thanks to eagle eyes Vorderman.
I'd like to get my downstairs floor replaced with American black walnut engineered wood planks, so I've started getting quotes. The first one has come in and I need to know if my expectations are massively out.
approx 40m2 of 21/6mm thick x 190m wide x 1900mm long engineered walnut
2-3 days labour
- remove the old floor
- supply and fit dpm
- secret nail (or float) the boards
- thresholds to fireplaces and doorways
Victorian house, if that makes a difference, with all its nooks and crannies; not a square new-build, anyway.
Quote is 5400 + 1080 VAT = 6480. Which seems a lot, since I was thinking of maybe 4000 at most, but I don't know if I'm clueless, or it's an attempted mugging
Edited thanks to eagle eyes Vorderman.
Edited by bigandclever on Thursday 23 February 14:59
As you say - how long is a piece of string?
How much is the flooring product per Sq M? I would expect to see that itemised.
I'm not looking at Walnut, but I've been quoted between £2K and £5K for 55 Sq M - £2K being cheaper laminate, £5K being pricier engineered wood.
I do know that the bigger boards are more expensive (i.e. 9" are dearer than 4"), and I assume walnut is more expensive than oak.
How much is the flooring product per Sq M? I would expect to see that itemised.
I'm not looking at Walnut, but I've been quoted between £2K and £5K for 55 Sq M - £2K being cheaper laminate, £5K being pricier engineered wood.
I do know that the bigger boards are more expensive (i.e. 9" are dearer than 4"), and I assume walnut is more expensive than oak.
That seems like a lot. I'm going with Amtico Spacia, which is essentially a picture of American walnut placed on the floor, but after lots of research I discounted engineered flooring for many reasons.
Anyway, Amtico is comparable price per m2 compared to many engineered types and 40m2 would cost me 2k fitted, albeit that's on a prep'd floor. Care to rip up the old stuff yourself?
Anyway, Amtico is comparable price per m2 compared to many engineered types and 40m2 would cost me 2k fitted, albeit that's on a prep'd floor. Care to rip up the old stuff yourself?
Almost exactly the same floor area, but we bought engineered oak parquet.
Bought the floor from floormonster.co.uk. 42m2 of natural brushed oak chevron 18/5mm x 90mm x 400mm was £2,474.80 delivered. The product is great, but so was the service - really friendly people who gave lots of free advice about laying it and how much I needed to buy for the space etc.
Fitting it was done by our builder, as part of a larger renovation project. He charged £1800 for this - but that included chopping out the old floor (all bowed and damaged parquet that had been stuck down onto the boards), laying new 18mm marine ply and screwing flat to the joists and insulating underneath properly with breathable insulation as well. It also included fitting two slate hearths, removing the skirting boards and fitting new ones to fit the new floor. 1938 house, so similar construction to your Victorian.
This was in London - I think you could do better. We may have had a "deal" as the work was part of a much larger renovation, but we also had a lot of extra done compared to what you are likely to need. The walnut will cost more than our oak, but you should be able to beat £1800 for fitting if it is a straightforward job. If it is a good floor, why not lay it yourself if it is engineered (and thus a floating floor)? Time consuming, but not difficult.
Here is a (not very good) picture of the floor, and excuse the mess as we are still moving in, so there is stuff everywhere and we are yet to do any painting. But it is lovely in the flesh, and really suits the room, which is a long 10m x 4m space.
Untitled by baconrashers, on Flickr
Bought the floor from floormonster.co.uk. 42m2 of natural brushed oak chevron 18/5mm x 90mm x 400mm was £2,474.80 delivered. The product is great, but so was the service - really friendly people who gave lots of free advice about laying it and how much I needed to buy for the space etc.
Fitting it was done by our builder, as part of a larger renovation project. He charged £1800 for this - but that included chopping out the old floor (all bowed and damaged parquet that had been stuck down onto the boards), laying new 18mm marine ply and screwing flat to the joists and insulating underneath properly with breathable insulation as well. It also included fitting two slate hearths, removing the skirting boards and fitting new ones to fit the new floor. 1938 house, so similar construction to your Victorian.
This was in London - I think you could do better. We may have had a "deal" as the work was part of a much larger renovation, but we also had a lot of extra done compared to what you are likely to need. The walnut will cost more than our oak, but you should be able to beat £1800 for fitting if it is a straightforward job. If it is a good floor, why not lay it yourself if it is engineered (and thus a floating floor)? Time consuming, but not difficult.
Here is a (not very good) picture of the floor, and excuse the mess as we are still moving in, so there is stuff everywhere and we are yet to do any painting. But it is lovely in the flesh, and really suits the room, which is a long 10m x 4m space.
Untitled by baconrashers, on FlickrEdited by Harry Flashman on Thursday 23 February 16:10
Chucklehead said:
That seems like a lot. I'm going with Amtico Spacia, which is essentially a picture of American walnut placed on the floor, but after lots of research I discounted engineered flooring for many reasons.
Apologies for the minor hijack - I would be very interested in more detail of your research, as I am going through exactly the same decision process myself at the moment. LVT, engineered wood or laminate.Back to the original thread - if the wood is £80 / Sq M incl Vat then for 40 Sq M that's £3.2 K. You then need underlay and possibly a DPM. I can't imagine that's more than £10 / Sq M. 2 fitters for 2 days - £800?
omniflow said:
Apologies for the minor hijack - I would be very interested in more detail of your research, as I am going through exactly the same decision process myself at the moment. LVT, engineered wood or laminate.
Will try not to rip too much in to this thread, but it came down to:Engineered: rip all skirting off the wall, re-set all levels, plane all doors and end up with a floor 20mm above base which also dents and scratches easily. Can rarely be used in the bathroom
Laminate: As above, but cheaper.
LVT: Barely adjust levels. Take up to existing skirting with no trim and no skirting removal. Hard wearing. Can use it in the bathroom.
I don't have any UFH concerns to address though, others might.
https://www.poshflooring.co.uk/richmond-engineered...
40m2 x £42m £1680
Labour £15m2 £600
Underlay £130
It's a £2.5k job
40m2 x £42m £1680
Labour £15m2 £600
Underlay £130
It's a £2.5k job
B17NNS said:
https://www.poshflooring.co.uk/richmond-engineered...
40m2 x £42m £1680
Labour £15m2 £600
Underlay £130
It's a £2.5k job
Except that the wood spec isn't the same ... the flooring I've been quoted on most resembles this one from that retailer which is twice the price at £3532.40m2 x £42m £1680
Labour £15m2 £600
Underlay £130
It's a £2.5k job
So more like £4.5k ish with your other costs, which is sort of what I was anticipating. You still raise a good point, though, do I have to have a more-expensive floor when really I could compromise.
bigandclever said:
You still raise a good point, though, do I have to have a more-expensive floor when really I could compromise.
Personally I'd order a few samples from the on-line suppliers and see how you feel about it. If you don't know a chippy that you trust with it (or has been recommended to you) post a free add on Checkatrade/MyBuilder/Trustatrader. With a bit of legwork (ordering the material yourself, organising a bloke to fit it) I'm sure you can get to where you want to be price and quality wise.Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff