New vs. older Macbook Pro
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21TonyK said:
Stupid question but can you upgrade the RAM from 16 to 32 on a new (2016) MacBook pro?
Found this... but I can see the advantage of slinging another 16gb in it at a later date.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-MacBook-15-inch-Lap...
And it looks like an agreement has been reached. She can have whatever she wants (within reason) if she pays half.
Ifixit is your friend here:Found this... but I can see the advantage of slinging another 16gb in it at a later date.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-MacBook-15-inch-Lap...
And it looks like an agreement has been reached. She can have whatever she wants (within reason) if she pays half.
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_Pro_13%22_Fu...
Ram is soldered.
21TonyK said:
Stupid question but can you upgrade the RAM from 16 to 32 on a new (2016) MacBook pro?
Found this... but I can see the advantage of slinging another 16gb in it at a later date.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-MacBook-15-inch-Lap...
And it looks like an agreement has been reached. She can have whatever she wants (within reason) if she pays half.
I was under the impression that 16GB was the maximum and this was down the CPU.Found this... but I can see the advantage of slinging another 16gb in it at a later date.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-MacBook-15-inch-Lap...
And it looks like an agreement has been reached. She can have whatever she wants (within reason) if she pays half.
ZesPak said:
WinstonWolf said:
Still feels like brand new thanks to the case and screen, I deal with a lot of hardware, the average seven year old 'Doze laptop has been retired years ago. For me the value in a Mac is how long they last compared to everything else 
This is merely anecdotal. You can claim it all you want, but if their warranties and the costs of extra warranty don't back it up, then what good is it?Sounds like my BMW dealer trying to convince me not to buy a Jaguar "because they break down a lot", while wanting to charge me an arm and a leg for the 3rd year of warranty Jaguar offered free.
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 30th March 13:08
C70R said:
What are your use cases for 32gb of RAM? I'm intrigued. I work with a bunch of software developers who are working their machines incredibly hard 12-13hrs a day, and they get by without any complaint on 16gb.
Not many tbh, virtualisation could be a big one.I use my machine to do some work, using it as a database server. It's got 8GB and that's plenty.
FYI, I would go with a 512GB SSD if possible....I imagine graphics files getting quite big, & 256GB could fill up fast!
I also have a BaseQi SDXC slot with a 256GB tiny memory add-on, but then I do seem to store quite a bit of stuff (& a 100GB winVM !)....of course with Apple's decision to remove slots, that wont be an option (hence advice to add as much SSD as you can from the start - newer Apple units are NOT designed to be expandable!)
I also have a BaseQi SDXC slot with a 256GB tiny memory add-on, but then I do seem to store quite a bit of stuff (& a 100GB winVM !)....of course with Apple's decision to remove slots, that wont be an option (hence advice to add as much SSD as you can from the start - newer Apple units are NOT designed to be expandable!)
Don't forget that if your daughter is eligible for a student card grant most unis have a student store selling laptops. They normally have a spending cap though. Could be worth looking into.
Just to add, I use a £350 Asus laptop I bought 3 years ago for CAD and it is fine (although running fluid flow simulations can take a while). Universities have well specced desktops so there is no rush.
If she really wants a mac then buy her one, it won't cause problems with study. You don't even need your own computer when at university.
Just to add, I use a £350 Asus laptop I bought 3 years ago for CAD and it is fine (although running fluid flow simulations can take a while). Universities have well specced desktops so there is no rush.
If she really wants a mac then buy her one, it won't cause problems with study. You don't even need your own computer when at university.
Edited by RicharDC5 on Thursday 30th March 17:13
ZesPak said:
C70R said:
What are your use cases for 32gb of RAM? I'm intrigued. I work with a bunch of software developers who are working their machines incredibly hard 12-13hrs a day, and they get by without any complaint on 16gb.
Not many tbh, virtualisation could be a big one.I use my machine to do some work, using it as a database server. It's got 8GB and that's plenty.
AndrewEH1 said:
miniman said:
I would say the key downside, for me at least, is the USB-C connectors. You lose the Magsafe power, and need to buy at least one dongle to connect to normal USB / HDMI / VGA.
That aside, it's a lovely piece of kit.
This. IMHO the new Pro's aren't very 'Pro' oriented...That aside, it's a lovely piece of kit.
The price of them is a complete pisstake. Tell if she wants one she can pay the difference herself.
Also worth factoring in cost of any software licenses if she's bought PC versions and needs to swap to macOS ones.
AlexS said:
ZesPak said:
C70R said:
What are your use cases for 32gb of RAM? I'm intrigued. I work with a bunch of software developers who are working their machines incredibly hard 12-13hrs a day, and they get by without any complaint on 16gb.
Not many tbh, virtualisation could be a big one.I use my machine to do some work, using it as a database server. It's got 8GB and that's plenty.
dmsims said:
New Dell XPS 15
i7-6700HQ
512Gb SSD
16Gb ram
15.6" FHD
GTX960M
W10
+ 3 years on site warranty
£1199.99 at XSonly
Great price. I should mention in passing one minus with the current Dell XPS laptops - the camera is situated underneath the screen, so video conferencing tends to show an up the nose view. Doesn't bother me, but my daughter finds it unflatteringi7-6700HQ
512Gb SSD
16Gb ram
15.6" FHD
GTX960M
W10
+ 3 years on site warranty
£1199.99 at XSonly
VitzzViperzz said:
No one uses a Mac for work
Strange statement. You could equally well say that anyone who enjoys their work is more likely to use a Mac.The last few software companies I've worked for have given a choice and probably three quarters of developers chose a Mac, including for dot net development.
Gosh, you don't give up. The question being asked is old or new model MacBook Pro and your contribution to that question is
Put it this way, you say you aspire to a supercar, but could probably make do with a Porsche at half the price. That doesn't make the supercar a rip off
Let's leave it at that, eh? This stuff doesn't help answer the OP's question
VitzzViperzz said:
Anyone with half a decent brain will tell you that a MacBook is a rip-off
Your profile says VitzzViperzz said:
Founder and software developer
Well, you're not the only one on here. And many of us are happy to pay 1% of annual turnover every 2 or 3 years for the essential tool of our trade, like a top-spec MacBook Pro (you can't develop iOS apps on Windows). Having said that, I'm not happy that the crash in sterling due to brexit has pushed prices of imported tech equipment up by over 10%Put it this way, you say you aspire to a supercar, but could probably make do with a Porsche at half the price. That doesn't make the supercar a rip off
Let's leave it at that, eh? This stuff doesn't help answer the OP's question
VitzzViperzz said:
No one uses a Mac for work.
Are you really that out of touch?IBM for example use them extensively, and not just for "the bosses". 100,000+ rolled out already IIRC, and there are TCO reasons behind it as well as a brand perception.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2998315/apple...
Our company (not IBM) roll them out on a BYOD and corporate issue laptop basis because:
a) people like them
b) some new joiners (believe it or not) make part of their company selection based on device policy. Sounds odd, but then if you are using something 8+ hours a day... Apple is Gen Y friendly.
c) it makes sense and the TCO for similarly managed environments can be lower for Mac.
VitzzViperzz said:
mikef said:
Well, you're not the only one on here. And many of us are happy to pay 1% of annual turnover every 2 or 3 years for the essential tool of our trade, like a top-spec MacBook Pro (you can't develop iOS apps on Windows). Having said that, I'm not happy that the crash in sterling due to brexit has pushed prices of imported tech equipment up by over 10%
Put it this way, you say you aspire to a supercar, but could probably make do with a Porsche at half the price. That doesn't make the supercar a rip off
Let's leave it at that, eh? This stuff doesn't help answer the OP's question
Yeah absolutely. I completely agree. A Mac is good for some who does have the money to buy one and then replace it with the latest model once it gets relased. It's like having the money to buy your dream car. Of course you're going to buy it regardless of what people tell you. Put it this way, you say you aspire to a supercar, but could probably make do with a Porsche at half the price. That doesn't make the supercar a rip off
Let's leave it at that, eh? This stuff doesn't help answer the OP's question
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