New vs. older Macbook Pro
Discussion
Durzel said:
A late 2015 one will suit her fine and will be to all intents and purposes the same as the new one
As we happen to have all our home laptops out at the same time - a late 2015 MacBook Pro 15" is mahoosive compared to the current MBP 15". Pictured alongside Dell XPS 13", which fits in my daughter's handbag...
tim0409 said:
How are people finding the new MBP? I've just listed my 2015 Space Grey 12" MacBook for sale as I'm heading to the US next week and there are some decent offers on the new MBP, and I'm thinking it could be a decent upgrade.
Latest models are also in the US refurb store now...tim0409 said:
GCH said:
Latest models are also in the US refurb store now...
Best Buy have a sale on at the moment and the new MBP is only $30 more than the refurb store which is a pretty good deal! Works out at £1075.tim0409 said:
How are people finding the new MBP? I've just listed my 2015 Space Grey 12" MacBook for sale as I'm heading to the US next week and there are some decent offers on the new MBP, and I'm thinking it could be a decent upgrade.
I've got a late 2014 13" MBP and a new 13" MBP, similar specs. I honestly prefer the older one, more connectivity and nicer feel from the keyboard. The screen is ever so slightly better on the newer model, the touchpad has more real estate, it's thinner and lighter but I keep going back to my older one.
VitzzViperzz said:
Yeah absolutely. I completely agree. A Mac is good for some who does have the money to buy one and then replace it with the latest model once it gets relased. It's like having the money to buy your dream car. Of course you're going to buy it regardless of what people tell you.
I bought a 2011 MacBook Air, it's that good that I'm still using it today. There is no slowdown of apps, it's as snappy as the day I bought it, the build quality is exceptional and everything is pretty much as new, even the battery life. In the meantime I've gone through 2 iterations of desktop (laptop) replacements at work. So for me it's the opposite. There is definite value there, and I could probably sell it for a reasonable amount too.I rarely see PC laptops with the similar design and build qualities to Apple products, and when things go wrong Apple is light years ahead in customer service, especially if you have access to an Apple Store.
I just bought a MacBook Pro ( with the touch bar). It replaces the one I last bought in 2010. It was running slower now and new updates are less likely to be compatible. But then seven years is a lifetime. Is it worth the extra cash ? They raised the prices right after Brexit and the pound's crash, so they are now 20% more expensive than the equivalent one last year. I have had Mac's since the early nineties and I just find them easier to use than PC's and all my files ar eMac. The downside is that Apple change stuff all the time connections, applications and it is important to keep up. Not sure it is still worth the extra cash for the new ones.
I have owned a laptop since 2002, my first being a used Dell inspiron running win XP. Great machine and did what i wanted it to do, until the BSOD. Rebuilt it and carried on for a year, i can't remember how many crashes and lock ups i had but there were some.
Over the next 10 years i owned 7 new laptops and 1 netbook, all decent brands. HP, Toshiba, IBM, Dell and Lenovo. Netbook was Acer. I moved along with Windows through XP to Millennium and then 7.
Honestly i spent more time reinstalling OS and drivers than actually using the machines.
On a trip to the U.S. in 2012 i started to look at the MBP, 3 evenings of research and 2 visits to the Apple store and i finally purchased a 13" MBP non retina. Looking back i should of gone for the retina as the only thing that stopped me was lack of CD/DVD drive, but thats another story.
The MBP was revolutionary, fast boot up, no crashing and everything running smoothly. The integration with my iPhone and iPad was great too.
I had 8gb of ram and a 500GB HDD, the first thing i did was max the ram up to 16gb and then in 2015 i swapped the HDD out for a SSD. This was the turning point for me, 18sec from cold boot to a fully working machine ready for action. The thing flies now and handles everything i do with ease.
If i look back and total what i spent on widows machines over the 10 years i would guess on average i spent £400 per machine, £2800 is a lot of money. The MBP actually cost me £920 in the states and the Ram upgrade set me back £80, in 2015 i spent £180 on the SSD.
I am assuming my MBP will last another few years at least, hopefully more. Would i buy another? Definitely without question.
Over the next 10 years i owned 7 new laptops and 1 netbook, all decent brands. HP, Toshiba, IBM, Dell and Lenovo. Netbook was Acer. I moved along with Windows through XP to Millennium and then 7.
Honestly i spent more time reinstalling OS and drivers than actually using the machines.
On a trip to the U.S. in 2012 i started to look at the MBP, 3 evenings of research and 2 visits to the Apple store and i finally purchased a 13" MBP non retina. Looking back i should of gone for the retina as the only thing that stopped me was lack of CD/DVD drive, but thats another story.
The MBP was revolutionary, fast boot up, no crashing and everything running smoothly. The integration with my iPhone and iPad was great too.
I had 8gb of ram and a 500GB HDD, the first thing i did was max the ram up to 16gb and then in 2015 i swapped the HDD out for a SSD. This was the turning point for me, 18sec from cold boot to a fully working machine ready for action. The thing flies now and handles everything i do with ease.
If i look back and total what i spent on widows machines over the 10 years i would guess on average i spent £400 per machine, £2800 is a lot of money. The MBP actually cost me £920 in the states and the Ram upgrade set me back £80, in 2015 i spent £180 on the SSD.
I am assuming my MBP will last another few years at least, hopefully more. Would i buy another? Definitely without question.
Salesy said:
I have owned a laptop since 2002, my first being a used Dell inspiron running win XP. Great machine and did what i wanted it to do, until the BSOD. Rebuilt it and carried on for a year, i can't remember how many crashes and lock ups i had but there were some.
Over the next 10 years i owned 7 new laptops and 1 netbook, all decent brands. HP, Toshiba, IBM, Dell and Lenovo. Netbook was Acer. I moved along with Windows through XP to Millennium and then 7.
Honestly i spent more time reinstalling OS and drivers than actually using the machines.
On a trip to the U.S. in 2012 i started to look at the MBP, 3 evenings of research and 2 visits to the Apple store and i finally purchased a 13" MBP non retina. Looking back i should of gone for the retina as the only thing that stopped me was lack of CD/DVD drive, but thats another story.
The MBP was revolutionary, fast boot up, no crashing and everything running smoothly. The integration with my iPhone and iPad was great too.
I had 8gb of ram and a 500GB HDD, the first thing i did was max the ram up to 16gb and then in 2015 i swapped the HDD out for a SSD. This was the turning point for me, 18sec from cold boot to a fully working machine ready for action. The thing flies now and handles everything i do with ease.
If i look back and total what i spent on widows machines over the 10 years i would guess on average i spent £400 per machine, £2800 is a lot of money. The MBP actually cost me £920 in the states and the Ram upgrade set me back £80, in 2015 i spent £180 on the SSD.
I am assuming my MBP will last another few years at least, hopefully more. Would i buy another? Definitely without question.
Does not computeOver the next 10 years i owned 7 new laptops and 1 netbook, all decent brands. HP, Toshiba, IBM, Dell and Lenovo. Netbook was Acer. I moved along with Windows through XP to Millennium and then 7.
Honestly i spent more time reinstalling OS and drivers than actually using the machines.
On a trip to the U.S. in 2012 i started to look at the MBP, 3 evenings of research and 2 visits to the Apple store and i finally purchased a 13" MBP non retina. Looking back i should of gone for the retina as the only thing that stopped me was lack of CD/DVD drive, but thats another story.
The MBP was revolutionary, fast boot up, no crashing and everything running smoothly. The integration with my iPhone and iPad was great too.
I had 8gb of ram and a 500GB HDD, the first thing i did was max the ram up to 16gb and then in 2015 i swapped the HDD out for a SSD. This was the turning point for me, 18sec from cold boot to a fully working machine ready for action. The thing flies now and handles everything i do with ease.
If i look back and total what i spent on widows machines over the 10 years i would guess on average i spent £400 per machine, £2800 is a lot of money. The MBP actually cost me £920 in the states and the Ram upgrade set me back £80, in 2015 i spent £180 on the SSD.
I am assuming my MBP will last another few years at least, hopefully more. Would i buy another? Definitely without question.
and if you spent £920 on a Windows laptop ?
and good luck getting it fixed if the hardware fails
Salesy said:
I have owned a laptop since 2002, my first being a used Dell inspiron running win XP. Great machine and did what i wanted it to do, until the BSOD. Rebuilt it and carried on for a year, i can't remember how many crashes and lock ups i had but there were some.
Over the next 10 years i owned 7 new laptops and 1 netbook, all decent brands. HP, Toshiba, IBM, Dell and Lenovo. Netbook was Acer. I moved along with Windows through XP to Millennium and then 7.
Honestly i spent more time reinstalling OS and drivers than actually using the machines.
On a trip to the U.S. in 2012 i started to look at the MBP, 3 evenings of research and 2 visits to the Apple store and i finally purchased a 13" MBP non retina. Looking back i should of gone for the retina as the only thing that stopped me was lack of CD/DVD drive, but thats another story.
The MBP was revolutionary, fast boot up, no crashing and everything running smoothly. The integration with my iPhone and iPad was great too.
I had 8gb of ram and a 500GB HDD, the first thing i did was max the ram up to 16gb and then in 2015 i swapped the HDD out for a SSD. This was the turning point for me, 18sec from cold boot to a fully working machine ready for action. The thing flies now and handles everything i do with ease.
If i look back and total what i spent on widows machines over the 10 years i would guess on average i spent £400 per machine, £2800 is a lot of money. The MBP actually cost me £920 in the states and the Ram upgrade set me back £80, in 2015 i spent £180 on the SSD.
I am assuming my MBP will last another few years at least, hopefully more. Would i buy another? Definitely without question.
It's a nice story, but what made you think, after 7 ~400 quid laptops, "2800" is fine (before the purchase)? Over the next 10 years i owned 7 new laptops and 1 netbook, all decent brands. HP, Toshiba, IBM, Dell and Lenovo. Netbook was Acer. I moved along with Windows through XP to Millennium and then 7.
Honestly i spent more time reinstalling OS and drivers than actually using the machines.
On a trip to the U.S. in 2012 i started to look at the MBP, 3 evenings of research and 2 visits to the Apple store and i finally purchased a 13" MBP non retina. Looking back i should of gone for the retina as the only thing that stopped me was lack of CD/DVD drive, but thats another story.
The MBP was revolutionary, fast boot up, no crashing and everything running smoothly. The integration with my iPhone and iPad was great too.
I had 8gb of ram and a 500GB HDD, the first thing i did was max the ram up to 16gb and then in 2015 i swapped the HDD out for a SSD. This was the turning point for me, 18sec from cold boot to a fully working machine ready for action. The thing flies now and handles everything i do with ease.
If i look back and total what i spent on widows machines over the 10 years i would guess on average i spent £400 per machine, £2800 is a lot of money. The MBP actually cost me £920 in the states and the Ram upgrade set me back £80, in 2015 i spent £180 on the SSD.
I am assuming my MBP will last another few years at least, hopefully more. Would i buy another? Definitely without question.
I honestly can't believe I would go on the road everyday with a 400 quid machine, and just as I won't do 30k miles/year in a 10k (new) car.
7 laptops in 10 years is a ridiculous number indeed, but in terms of price you're effectively comparing a Renault Twingo to an E class, while saying "the Talisman is probably crap as well".
As for bsod, while very rare these days, these are almost always caused by hardware failure, be it RAM or HDD. If the core problem doesn't get fixed, the laptop will keep acting up.
The difference in quality and support between a 400 quid machine and a 1500 one is night and day (as it should be).
I'm not saying the mbp isn't a good machine, it certainly is. But to compare it to a 400 quid windows machine is selling it way short. A 2800 quid MacBook should be compared to ~1600 quid dell/hp gear.
(these days, in 2012 the price difference was smaller)
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