Business software with a local backup facility?

[jamoor]

http://www.controlc.co.nz

I found this.
Looks pretty good.

[AJB88]

jamoor said:

http://www.controlc.co.nz

I found this.
Looks pretty good.

Xero is a NZ company.. so is this....


Am I the only one thinking, they don't offer the ability to do full download, so they can create a separate company and charge you extra to do it.

[jamoor]

AJB88 said:

jamoor said:

http://www.controlc.co.nz

I found this.
Looks pretty good.

Xero is a NZ company.. so is this....


Am I the only one thinking, they don't offer the ability to do full download, so they can create a separate company and charge you extra to do it.

I doubt it.

Alot of these software packages are coming out of Australia and new Zealand.

I believe the market for small business software packahee there is strong so you get developers working on it off that.

Either way it's not even alot of money.

[surveyor]

To be honest Xero are looking fairly strong at this moment in time.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/xero-passes-1-million...

[dmsims]

surveyor said:

To be honest Xero are looking fairly strong at this moment in time.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/xero-passes-1-million...

Financial stability is one issue - there are a few others .........

[DaveH23]

surveyor said:

As opposed to Sage whose system breaks once a quarter, and you are then beholden on paying a Sage specialist to fix it...

You must be running a very old version or have an unstable environment.

[jamoor]

DaveH23 said:

surveyor said:

As opposed to Sage whose system breaks once a quarter, and you are then beholden on paying a Sage specialist to fix it...

You must be running a very old version or have an unstable environment.

Nah he's using sage.

[ecs]

I take it people are regularly backing up their bank statements and balances too? The systems most banks run on are museum pieces and it's little wonder how we don't accidentally end up in the dark ages due to some kind of fk up by them.

[4x4Tyke]

Given that directors hold a fiduciary responsibility to keep proper accounting records, I would suggest their target customers are the ignorant. Those that thinking running a market stall or corner shop makes them a businessman, plenty of those to make a punt on investing in them. Putting any accounting records I am responsible there would be a completely different matter.

[jamoor]

4x4Tyke said:

Given that directors hold a fiduciary responsibility to keep proper accounting records, I would suggest their target customers are the ignorant. Those that thinking running a market stall or corner shop makes them a businessman, plenty of those to make a punt on investing in them. Putting any accounting records I am responsible there would be a completely different matter.

Well, this is why we are investigating backup solutions for it.

Garbage like Sage has no place in small business environments.

[jamoor]

ecs said:

I take it people are regularly backing up their bank statements and balances too? The systems most banks run on are museum pieces and it's little wonder how we don't accidentally end up in the dark ages due to some kind of fk up by them.

Well if your money disappears HMRC aren't going to come knocking.

it's the same with O365 and the like, do companies backup their O365 accounts?

Edited by jamoor on Sunday 2nd April 04:24

[RM]

HMRC's Making Tax Digital means more and more accountants will be recommending these services to small businesses (as well as Xero and Freeagent, there is Kashflow too), as it will ease the pain of quarterly returns.

[buggalugs]

I see a big difference between big banking which has evolved over decades and a load of 20 something hoodie wearers sat around on beanbags in a company that didn't exist 3 years ago burning through it's runway cash faster than they can shovel it

[jamoor]

The latter are the people that dominate markets because they know what people want

[buggalugs]

jamoor said:

The latter are the people that dominate markets because they know what people want

They're agile and responding quickly to an immediate market need yes. Whether they're 'dominating the markets' I'm not sure, typically once they've proved the proposition they get bought up by someone bigger.

[Bullett]

These are all sensible questions.

I worked for a services company that had a data centre/hosting/cloud division. Billion £ turnover, so not small fry. Went into receivership and effectively the administrators could hold customers to ransom over their data/services. A proper s**tstorm that was.

[jamoor]

buggalugs said:

They're agile and responding quickly to an immediate market need yes. Whether they're 'dominating the markets' I'm not sure, typically once they've proved the proposition they get bought up by someone bigger.

Well, surely by buying someone bigger they dominate the market?
Uber, Amazon, eBay, Facebook, Twitter yada yada.

Very little place left for people in suits these days.

[jamoor]

Bullett said:

These are all sensible questions.

I worked for a services company that had a data centre/hosting/cloud division. Billion £ turnover, so not small fry. Went into receivership and effectively the administrators could hold customers to ransom over their data/services. A proper s**tstorm that was.

This too, nobody knows whats going to happen which is a concern.

[buggalugs]

jamoor said:

buggalugs said:

They're agile and responding quickly to an immediate market need yes. Whether they're 'dominating the markets' I'm not sure, typically once they've proved the proposition they get bought up by someone bigger.

Well, surely by buying someone bigger they dominate the market?
Uber, Amazon, eBay, Facebook, Twitter yada yada.

Very little place left for people in suits these days.

Uber - sexist frat boys, loosing the money that suits gave them
Amazon - Suits
ebay - Suits
Facebook - well yeah they're the poster boy for hoodies and beanbags I'll give you that one
Twitter - loosing money that suits gave them

People look at Facebook and the like and think they can go out and do that, and that's the way to do it, when the reality is that most of those people go bust and you never hear about them. Having a cool idea is like 1% of becoming facebook.

[manic47]

jamoor said:

it's the same with O365 and the like, do companies backup their O365 accounts?

We do, there are a fair few products out there for it.
Whilst it's possible to get Microsoft to restore a mailbox, getting them to do it quickly is another matter...