Starlink Broadband

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Scottie - NW

1,290 posts

234 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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what sort of deals are you guys getting privately?

I just put on in NW England last week on a plant for business, £3k kit cost then for £350 a month it's 1TB data expedited at 250down 80up, but after 1TB drops to 100Mb down which is still great as it's a backup to Verizon MPLS and Daisy DIA fibre circuits.





Edited by Scottie - NW on Monday 7th August 15:59

CharlesElliott

2,010 posts

283 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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sidekickdmr said:
is there a SIMPLE way to make my IP address static?

It changes a few times a day as standard, and my work needs to map my IP to a secure system so i can access it, meaning 1-2 times a day Im having to bug my IT department to update my IP. im the only person in the company that has to do this (and the only one with starlink)
Starlink doesn't offer a static IP (they use CGNAT).

arfur

3,871 posts

215 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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sidekickdmr said:
is there a SIMPLE way to make my IP address static?

It changes a few times a day as standard, and my work needs to map my IP to a secure system so i can access it, meaning 1-2 times a day Im having to bug my IT department to update my IP. im the only person in the company that has to do this (and the only one with starlink)
A very quick google search would indicate that if your IT dept is whitelisting an IP then you'd need the business package from starlink ..

To me I'd be registering a domain name sidekickdmr.com, pointing to to the starlink IP and setting it up with dynamic DNS on your router (you may need a compatible router) so that every 30 mins or so it updates the IP associated with the domain name .. ie the new IP that starlink has issued. Your IT dept _may_ be able to add your whitelist as a DNS name and not an IP which if possible would resolve to the new IP when it changes .. You may still get short outages, cannot remember the TTL for DDNS .. May be possible to set it to 5 mins, sorry cannot remember.

Worth a go I would have thought

hth


Edited by arfur on Monday 7th August 16:21

CharlesElliott

2,010 posts

283 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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arfur said:
A very quick google search would indicate that if your IT dept is whitelisting an IP then you'd need the business package from starlink ..
The business package can give you a externally routable IPv4 address, but it is not static either.

M1AGM

2,356 posts

33 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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sidekickdmr said:
is there a SIMPLE way to make my IP address static?

It changes a few times a day as standard, and my work needs to map my IP to a secure system so i can access it, meaning 1-2 times a day Im having to bug my IT department to update my IP. im the only person in the company that has to do this (and the only one with starlink)
Your IT wanting to map to your public IP isn’t secure or flexible, thats the problem. There are better, more secure ways of providing VPNs to endpoints that work with dynamic IPs.

arfur

3,871 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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M1AGM said:
sidekickdmr said:
is there a SIMPLE way to make my IP address static?

It changes a few times a day as standard, and my work needs to map my IP to a secure system so i can access it, meaning 1-2 times a day Im having to bug my IT department to update my IP. im the only person in the company that has to do this (and the only one with starlink)
Your IT wanting to map to your public IP isn’t secure or flexible, thats the problem. There are better, more secure ways of providing VPNs to endpoints that work with dynamic IPs.
Totally true .. but it's an age old way of providing a simple step for security. Getting IT depts to change is always the challenge

M1AGM

2,356 posts

33 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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arfur said:
Totally true .. but it's an age old way of providing a simple step for security. Getting IT depts to change is always the challenge
Yes, I agree, see this behaviour a lot when IT departments don’t have the skillset/knowledge/budget to do things correctly.

The irony being that it isn’t a good way of delivering a secure VPN for 2 reasons: 1) when the public IP changes, whoever gets it next has access until the IT dept change their access list, which is a big risk, and 2) any rogue/snooping device on the poster’s network (or any of his/her colleagues wfh), not just his/her equipment, will have full access to the network whilst the VPN exists. All of it is a Cyber essentials fail and should be a big red flag to the company’s cyber insurer. I’m amazed this is still going on tbh.

Sorry for the derail.

sidekickdmr

5,076 posts

207 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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Not that I'm selling it on here as it breaks the rules, but I've got a spare and brand new in box Starlink Router/mesh (no power cable) for sale, where is the best place to advertise it please?

Ta smile


wrencho

278 posts

66 months

Tuesday 9th April
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HOLY THREAD RESURRECTION!

We have BT fibre to our house, which on the face of it should be great, but is in fact ste.

IT constantly drops, although when it is working the speed is fine. Despite numerous calls to BT the problem persists, we've had an engineer visit and replace the fibre hub but typically it works when they are here!!

I'm thinking there is a hardware problem somewhere so considering ditching the whole thing and going Starlink....what are the pros and cons?

LooneyTunes

6,863 posts

159 months

Tuesday 9th April
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Are you using the standard BT hub? If so, I would bin that and see how you get on with a better product in its place.

I have FTTP at home (BT) and Starlink at another property. Can’t completely get rid of the starlink or openreach modem, but they and the actual connection are the only real variables in my networking (both unifi UDM SE based systems).

FTTP is definitely faster and lower latency. Some occasional short outages on Starlink but it has been better than I expected.

GuyW

1,072 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th April
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wrencho said:
HOLY THREAD RESURRECTION!

We have BT fibre to our house, which on the face of it should be great, but is in fact ste.

IT constantly drops, although when it is working the speed is fine. Despite numerous calls to BT the problem persists, we've had an engineer visit and replace the fibre hub but typically it works when they are here!!

I'm thinking there is a hardware problem somewhere so considering ditching the whole thing and going Starlink....what are the pros and cons?
Ignoring the Starlink for a minute, have you tested any devices and the connection wired? I'd be surprised if the issue wasn't the garbage Home Hub and/or Wi-Fi congestion.

NDA

21,598 posts

226 months

Tuesday 9th April
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GuyW said:
Ignoring the Starlink for a minute, have you tested any devices and the connection wired? I'd be surprised if the issue wasn't the garbage Home Hub and/or Wi-Fi congestion.
This.

BT Fibre should be pretty stable. The Home Hubs are not so great.

Order66

6,728 posts

250 months

Tuesday 9th April
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wrencho said:
HOLY THREAD RESURRECTION!

We have BT fibre to our house, which on the face of it should be great, but is in fact ste.

IT constantly drops, although when it is working the speed is fine. Despite numerous calls to BT the problem persists, we've had an engineer visit and replace the fibre hub but typically it works when they are here!!

I'm thinking there is a hardware problem somewhere so considering ditching the whole thing and going Starlink....what are the pros and cons?
Due to building a house extension I had to take out the BT connection and got a starlink with a wall mount and the kit to drill the wire through the wall. I won't be going back to BT. Sitting here just now, just finished a conference call, no issues, simultaneously at least 2 others streaming tv/youtube in the house. In fact a speedtest on a cloudy afternoon in Scotland is showing 103Mbps download, was only getting about 35Mbps with BT.

Children game (although not hardcore gamers, we're talking roblox etc) and haven't noticed the difference, but I believe if ping is all important to you it can be a bit more laggy than a BT line.

Pros:
Sets up in minutes
A genuine fixed-line replacement
Take it on holiday with you wink

Cons:
Expensive compared to similar speed fixed line (£75pcm)
Perhaps not the best ping for hardcore gamers

I'd absolutely recommend it.

Blown2CV

28,854 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th April
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wrencho said:
HOLY THREAD RESURRECTION!

We have BT fibre to our house, which on the face of it should be great, but is in fact ste.

IT constantly drops, although when it is working the speed is fine. Despite numerous calls to BT the problem persists, we've had an engineer visit and replace the fibre hub but typically it works when they are here!!

I'm thinking there is a hardware problem somewhere so considering ditching the whole thing and going Starlink....what are the pros and cons?
BT engineers haven't got a fking clue these days - it's now a de-skilled role and they only exist to replace domestic kit, which is what they've done. The issue clearly lies upstream, so i think that makes it an openreach issue. Ask to escalate it as at the mo they've done the bare minimum.

If you resolve that, and get what you're paying for, then it will be 10x better than starlink.

Captain_Morgan

1,229 posts

60 months

Tuesday 9th April
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wrencho said:
HOLY THREAD RESURRECTION!

We have BT fibre to our house, which on the face of it should be great, but is in fact ste.

IT constantly drops, although when it is working the speed is fine. Despite numerous calls to BT the problem persists, we've had an engineer visit and replace the fibre hub but typically it works when they are here!!

I'm thinking there is a hardware problem somewhere so considering ditching the whole thing and going Starlink....what are the pros and cons?
If you can’t get openreach to address your issues then A&A isp take on poorly performing services & bring openreach in to resolve the issues, they cost more than bt but I suspect less than starlink & then once your issue is resolved you can move away with a working service to a cheaper provider.

wrencho

278 posts

66 months

Wednesday 10th April
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We've got a BT "tech helper" coming to the house for a couple of hours tomorrow so hopefully that will resolve it.

The house was built in 2020 and has a draytek switch and cat 5 cable throughout but I'm a bit of a luddite when it comes to that so it could be something to do with it. I just want straightforward fast broadband!

Maybe junking the home hub will help!

Edited to add if anyone has a recommendation for a domestic route to work with my full fibre I'm all ears!

Edited by wrencho on Wednesday 10th April 11:14

Blown2CV

28,854 posts

204 months

Wednesday 10th April
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well there's your problem. Cat5 only provides 100Mbps.

M1AGM

2,356 posts

33 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Blown2CV said:
well there's your problem. Cat5 only provides 100Mbps.
For a house recently built I would expect it to be cat5e which runs up to 1000mbps.

Blown2CV

28,854 posts

204 months

Wednesday 10th April
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M1AGM said:
Blown2CV said:
well there's your problem. Cat5 only provides 100Mbps.
For a house recently built I would expect it to be cat5e which runs up to 1000mbps.
said cat5 tho

wrencho

278 posts

66 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Blown2CV said:
well there's your problem. Cat5 only provides 100Mbps.
Sorry I should have clarified. I have no idea how to get the gubbins in the "IT cupboard" to work effectively so I disconnected it all. Now we just have the Smart Hub plugged into the fibre socket via ethernet, and everything is connected wirelessly. We routinely get 300mbps but the connection drops frequently, which thanks to the power of PH seems likelt to be the hub, so I should probably replace it.