ad blocker no longer works with youtube?
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Teppic said:
Nope. A VPN set to a country that can receive the full streaming F1TV Pro and a tablet or phone to use the F1TV app (don't try to pay via the F1 website, because that will ask for a card number and if you use a UK card then you'll only get access to the F1 archive and documentaries, and no streaming of live races). Then use Apple / Google Pay (or equivalent) to complete the transaction as that doesn't require you to submit your card details.
Interesting, thanks. I've only tried the website, and as you say, it doesn't work without a card from the host country. YT on Playsatation is becoming unwatchable sadly. There are now unskippable 40 second adverts, and loads of different lengthy ads all the time.
I get it, but it really becomes unwatchable after a time.
Some things seem immune to it, while others are interrupted literally every 5 minutes rendering them totally unwatchable, quite why these idiots think ads every 5 minutes is reasonable I do not know.
I get it, but it really becomes unwatchable after a time.
Some things seem immune to it, while others are interrupted literally every 5 minutes rendering them totally unwatchable, quite why these idiots think ads every 5 minutes is reasonable I do not know.
flatlandsman said:
YT on Playsatation is becoming unwatchable sadly. There are now unskippable 40 second adverts, and loads of different lengthy ads all the time.
I get it, but it really becomes unwatchable after a time.
Some things seem immune to it, while others are interrupted literally every 5 minutes rendering them totally unwatchable, quite why these idiots think ads every 5 minutes is reasonable I do not know.
That's the whole point of them doing it. Annoy the hell out of you so you pay up! I get it, but it really becomes unwatchable after a time.
Some things seem immune to it, while others are interrupted literally every 5 minutes rendering them totally unwatchable, quite why these idiots think ads every 5 minutes is reasonable I do not know.
Or just buy a VPN and use Firefox's private browser.
Condi said:
Its a bit like the F1 stream. Sky have the sole rights in the UK, and charge about £40 a month for it. F1 TV works elsewhere in the world for about £8/m, but you need a credit or debit card issued in the country you're buying in to pay for it, so unless you know someone in that country who can pay for it on your behalf it doesnt work.
Rip Off Britain strikes again !! I`ll stick to Smart Tube for free
MitchT said:
FourWheelDrift said:
It's one of youtubes "features" that no one likes.
The odd thing is, some videos have it and some don't, so I can only surmise that it's the content creators that are activating it.Also, my new MacBook Pro has Firefox 118.0.2 on it while my old one has 115.3.1. They're both showing as up-to-date, so I guess my old Mac can't run the latest version and is up-to-date in so much as it's running the newest version of FF that it can support. Maybe there's something about the old version that can't display this YouTube feature.
Yep, you're describing a feature called 'End Cards'. You can choose to use/not use end cards on a video-by-video basis. If you decide to use end cards, you have to have at least 2 elements. An element can be a channel logo button (to subscribe), a particular video (the creator's latest video, or a video chosen by the creator, or a video that YouTube thinks you will like from the creator) or a playlist. The creator then decides when the end card activates, as well as how the elements are positioned.
Essentially, it's a way of guiding viewers to watch more of your content. If your videos keep viewers on YouTube for longer, it helps 'promote' your channel within the algorithm.
YouTube Premium is a great way of avoiding adverts whilst supporting your favourite creators. Premium means we get a slice of the ad revenue too. If you use adblockers, YouTube loses revenue, and creators do too. YouTube isn't easy, and it (mainly editing!) takes up a lot of free time, so it's not much fun doing it for very little financial compensation. You wouldn't want to do a job for free either. If smaller creators give up because it's not worth their time, you could be missing out on great future content - or limit YouTube to just being a platform for the bigger creators.
I just watch the adverts
Ikemi said:
Content creator here!
Yep, you're describing a feature called 'End Cards'. You can choose to use/not use end cards on a video-by-video basis. If you decide to use end cards, you have to have at least 2 elements. An element can be a channel logo button (to subscribe), a particular video (the creator's latest video, or a video chosen by the creator, or a video that YouTube thinks you will like from the creator) or a playlist. The creator then decides when the end card activates, as well as how the elements are positioned.
Essentially, it's a way of guiding viewers to watch more of your content. If your videos keep viewers on YouTube for longer, it helps 'promote' your channel within the algorithm.
YouTube Premium is a great way of avoiding adverts whilst supporting your favourite creators. Premium means we get a slice of the ad revenue too. If you use adblockers, YouTube loses revenue, and creators do too. YouTube isn't easy, and it (mainly editing!) takes up a lot of free time, so it's not much fun doing it for very little financial compensation. You wouldn't want to do a job for free either. If smaller creators give up because it's not worth their time, you could be missing out on great future content - or limit YouTube to just being a platform for the bigger creators.
I just watch the adverts
How does skipping ads or doing the Argentina trick affect your revenue compared to watching the full ad or getting premium in the UK?Yep, you're describing a feature called 'End Cards'. You can choose to use/not use end cards on a video-by-video basis. If you decide to use end cards, you have to have at least 2 elements. An element can be a channel logo button (to subscribe), a particular video (the creator's latest video, or a video chosen by the creator, or a video that YouTube thinks you will like from the creator) or a playlist. The creator then decides when the end card activates, as well as how the elements are positioned.
Essentially, it's a way of guiding viewers to watch more of your content. If your videos keep viewers on YouTube for longer, it helps 'promote' your channel within the algorithm.
YouTube Premium is a great way of avoiding adverts whilst supporting your favourite creators. Premium means we get a slice of the ad revenue too. If you use adblockers, YouTube loses revenue, and creators do too. YouTube isn't easy, and it (mainly editing!) takes up a lot of free time, so it's not much fun doing it for very little financial compensation. You wouldn't want to do a job for free either. If smaller creators give up because it's not worth their time, you could be missing out on great future content - or limit YouTube to just being a platform for the bigger creators.
I just watch the adverts
Mr Penguin said:
How does skipping ads or doing the Argentina trick affect your revenue compared to watching the full ad or getting premium in the UK?
If an advert is skipped, the creator will still receive a cut of the revenue. If the advert is blocked, creators do not receive the revenue. I believe if you watch more of the advert, funds may increase. Funds certainly do increase if you click on an advert. Creators are told specifically *not* to click on their own adverts. Does the Argentina trick still work? I did a quick search and it seems a bit hit and miss regarding billing addresses, VISA etc. If you can get Premium and use it without VPN, then creators still get a cut. We'd still get a cut with VPN on, but viewers from Argentina will 'pay less' than say a viewer from the US. Hope that helps!
Edited by Ikemi on Monday 1st January 23:31
At some point a new platform will come through that replaces YouTube - think of all the sites and services that were enormous yet still got overtaken and faded into obscurity.
I don't pay for Premium and I ad-block - however I do support content creators I watch regularly via Patreon if they have it. Patreon itself isn't perfect of course, however as far as I know it means that currently more of the money I want to pay reaches the creators I want it to get to.
I don't pay for Premium and I ad-block - however I do support content creators I watch regularly via Patreon if they have it. Patreon itself isn't perfect of course, however as far as I know it means that currently more of the money I want to pay reaches the creators I want it to get to.
Funk said:
At some point a new platform will come through that replaces YouTube - think of all the sites and services that were enormous yet still got overtaken and faded into obscurity.
I don't pay for Premium and I ad-block - however I do support content creators I watch regularly via Patreon if they have it. Patreon itself isn't perfect of course, however as far as I know it means that currently more of the money I want to pay reaches the creators I want it to get to.
I'm not sure who else would have the resources to set up a video hosting website given the sheer amount of storage and bandwidth that would be required to support such an endeavour, and even if they did come along, I'm pretty sure they'd be wanting to charge you somehow for it... Or display ads.I don't pay for Premium and I ad-block - however I do support content creators I watch regularly via Patreon if they have it. Patreon itself isn't perfect of course, however as far as I know it means that currently more of the money I want to pay reaches the creators I want it to get to.
As for the patron thing, I get why you do it but I watch so many channels that it would be hugely expensive to support them all in this way.
I wonder how many people actually see or hear an advert and say “I must have that product” I can’t think of a single example in all my years where an advert made me purchase anything.
A million toothpastes, a new razor design every week, a hundred new washing powders / dishwasher tabs every year. Blah, blah, blah…
Surely, if you want or need something, you either actively seek it out, or just grab whatever is available online or in a store as required.
That said, people clearly must buy due to adverts, otherwise they wouldn’t advertise, but which types of people honestly rush out to buy based on a TV ad which they have probably seen 50 times that week which, to me at least, is akin to Chinese water torture.
I’m at the stage where I honestly couldn’t care less who wins or loses regarding income. I block & record and FFW everything. Advert avoidance was forced upon me due to how maddening it all became. And it’s everywhere…constantly. When you yell at me dozens of times a week “BANG!!! AND THE DIRT IS GONE” and it starts to feel like being poked in the eye every time, I’ll simply avoid your product and actively seek out how to avoid the advert where possible.
If that results in less content, then so be it.
A million toothpastes, a new razor design every week, a hundred new washing powders / dishwasher tabs every year. Blah, blah, blah…
Surely, if you want or need something, you either actively seek it out, or just grab whatever is available online or in a store as required.
That said, people clearly must buy due to adverts, otherwise they wouldn’t advertise, but which types of people honestly rush out to buy based on a TV ad which they have probably seen 50 times that week which, to me at least, is akin to Chinese water torture.
I’m at the stage where I honestly couldn’t care less who wins or loses regarding income. I block & record and FFW everything. Advert avoidance was forced upon me due to how maddening it all became. And it’s everywhere…constantly. When you yell at me dozens of times a week “BANG!!! AND THE DIRT IS GONE” and it starts to feel like being poked in the eye every time, I’ll simply avoid your product and actively seek out how to avoid the advert where possible.
If that results in less content, then so be it.
Digby said:
I wonder how many people actually see or hear an advert and say “I must have that product” I can’t think of a single example in all my years where an advert made me purchase anything.
A million toothpastes, a new razor design every week, a hundred new washing powders / dishwasher tabs every year. Blah, blah, blah…
Surely, if you want or need something, you either actively seek it out, or just grab whatever is available online or in a store as required.
That said, people clearly must buy due to adverts, otherwise they wouldn’t advertise, but which types of people honestly rush out to buy based on a TV ad which they have probably seen 50 times that week which, to me at least, is akin to Chinese water torture.
I’m at the stage where I honestly couldn’t care less who wins or loses regarding income. I block & record and FFW everything. Advert avoidance was forced upon me due to how maddening it all became. And it’s everywhere…constantly. When you yell at me dozens of times a week “BANG!!! AND THE DIRT IS GONE” and it starts to feel like being poked in the eye every time, I’ll simply avoid your product and actively seek out how to avoid the advert where possible.
If that results in less content, then so be it.
This!A million toothpastes, a new razor design every week, a hundred new washing powders / dishwasher tabs every year. Blah, blah, blah…
Surely, if you want or need something, you either actively seek it out, or just grab whatever is available online or in a store as required.
That said, people clearly must buy due to adverts, otherwise they wouldn’t advertise, but which types of people honestly rush out to buy based on a TV ad which they have probably seen 50 times that week which, to me at least, is akin to Chinese water torture.
I’m at the stage where I honestly couldn’t care less who wins or loses regarding income. I block & record and FFW everything. Advert avoidance was forced upon me due to how maddening it all became. And it’s everywhere…constantly. When you yell at me dozens of times a week “BANG!!! AND THE DIRT IS GONE” and it starts to feel like being poked in the eye every time, I’ll simply avoid your product and actively seek out how to avoid the advert where possible.
If that results in less content, then so be it.
I really don't understand adverts on downloaded/streamed TV programs, they don't seriously think anybody watches them do they?
Megaflow said:
This!
I really don't understand adverts on downloaded/streamed TV programs, they don't seriously think anybody watches them do they?
I posted about this earlier in the thread.I really don't understand adverts on downloaded/streamed TV programs, they don't seriously think anybody watches them do they?
As most people are aware, large companies/businesses tend to know ‘everything about everything’ when it comes to marketing. They can tell you exactly which advertisements work and which ones don’t. They can identity and target demographics to a scary degree, and they know more about your shopping habits than you do.
They spend extraordinary amounts of time, money, and effort into analysing the performance and results of their adverts, and refining those adverts, altering the target or the timings, and so on.
Some of their adverts will just be to aimed at keeping a constant presence in public, and don’t necessarily result in sales as a direct result (Pepsi, Red Bull, Nike, do a lot of this, as an example).
The upshot of all this is that you can rest assured that brands wouldn’t be advertising on streaming services if they didn’t have mountains of cold hard data that it was working for them.
They won’t get it right all the time of course, but more often than not, their advertising decisions are data-driven and probably quite effective.
Funk said:
At some point a new platform will come through that replaces YouTube - think of all the sites and services that were enormous yet still got overtaken and faded into obscurity.
I don't pay for Premium and I ad-block - however I do support content creators I watch regularly via Patreon if they have it. Patreon itself isn't perfect of course, however as far as I know it means that currently more of the money I want to pay reaches the creators I want it to get to.
I seriously doubt it, and I think that's a bit of a specious conclusion.I don't pay for Premium and I ad-block - however I do support content creators I watch regularly via Patreon if they have it. Patreon itself isn't perfect of course, however as far as I know it means that currently more of the money I want to pay reaches the creators I want it to get to.
YouTube's business model is pretty simple - receive enough money from advertisers and Premium subscribers to offset the billions of users who don't pay a penny to consume content, and pay creators enough that they are motivated to create more content, to feed the perpetual machine.
It has variously reported ~26 million Premium subscribers as of 2023. it doesn't seem to be a particularly complicated model in so much as there's an inflection point at which it's simply not worth bothering to offer the service. Obviously YouTube itself isn't at that point, and would never fail due to this, but I could reasonably see Google reaching the end of their tether with ad blocking, etc.
Even discounting the traction they already have other player entering the market would have to spend hundreds of millions, parhaps billions, on advertising and infrastructure, to cater to an audience who is upset with getting something for free but with ads.... It doesn't strike me as a killer business opportunity.
Edited by Durzel on Wednesday 10th January 15:52
r3g said:
Black screen of death has randomly returned for me on chrome desktop. Been working fine for over a month. 
Try Ad Skipper for now until the blockers are updated - https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ad-skippe...
All the cookie clearing and cache purge nonsense didn't do anything this time.Gassing Station | Computers, Gadgets & Stuff | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff