ad blocker no longer works with youtube?

[r3g]

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/youtube-accused-...

[FourWheelDrift]

It might be other things too.

Run DNS Benchmark, find the fastest DNS server and change your IP4 DNS settings from Auto to manual and put in the primary and secondary DNS, like this below. I am using OpenDNS settings the fastest where I am and I have slick fast Youtube and web pages.

See it it helps if you find it slower than normal.

[Corso Marche]

r3g said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/youtube-accused-...

As it turns out it was an issue with bad code in AdBlock and AdBlock Plus.

It was nothing at all to do with Google or YouTube.

The developers behind AdBlock have admitted to it, and pushed out fixes.

https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-google-did-not...

[r3g]

Corso Marche said:

As it turns out it was an issue with bad code in AdBlock and AdBlock Plus.

It was nothing at all to do with Google or YouTube.

The developers behind AdBlock have admitted to it, and pushed out fixes.

https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-google-did-not...

It's still slow asf with Adblock (updated). Binned that extension completely now and just running with uBlock Origin which currently lets YT play and with no slow down.

[SteveKTMer]

I've switched to using the Brave browser. It's fast, no ads, not even in youtube and it seems to do everything well. Even 1Password works well with it. I've had no messages or moaning from youtube saying I shouldn't be using an ad blocker, it just seem to fly under the radar of ad block detectors and gets the job done.

[FourWheelDrift]

Futo & Louis Rossman's no-advert video handling app Grayjay is available now - https://grayjay.app/index.html

It can run youtube or any other video site listed. You can import your subscriptions and many other options.

Futo have other projects too - https://futo.org/projects/


Ps. Youtube removed his video about it and gave him a strike, so it's definitely hit a nerve with them.

[NDA]

SteveKTMer said:

I've switched to using the Brave browser. It's fast, no ads, not even in youtube and it seems to do everything well. Even 1Password works well with it. I've had no messages or moaning from youtube saying I shouldn't be using an ad blocker, it just seem to fly under the radar of ad block detectors and gets the job done.

I've just switched to Brave from Safari and (sometimes) Chrome following your post (thanks). So far so good - no YouTube ads.

I know ads keep the content creators in coffee beans, but the ads have become overbearing and spoil the platform. Too many.

[Durzel]

FourWheelDrift said:

Futo & Louis Rossman's no-advert video handling app Grayjay is available now - https://grayjay.app/index.html

It can run youtube or any other video site listed. You can import your subscriptions and many other options.

Futo have other projects too - https://futo.org/projects/


Ps. Youtube removed his video about it and gave him a strike, so it's definitely hit a nerve with them.

Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment...

If I'm understanding this app correctly, it basically "embeds" YouTube etc content, stripping the ads (somehow).

Can you or someone else explain to me why YouTube should host and serve the videos that this platform consumes? It seems like this project assumes that YouTube has an obligation to host & serve content for no renumeration at all. How is that a sane position to take?

I get irritated by adverts but I can't understand the entitlement of someone who thinks YouTube shoud do all of the legwork to ensure smooth video watching anywhere in the world but get nothing for it?

[trackdemon]

Durzel said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Futo & Louis Rossman's no-advert video handling app Grayjay is available now - https://grayjay.app/index.html

It can run youtube or any other video site listed. You can import your subscriptions and many other options.

Futo have other projects too - https://futo.org/projects/


Ps. Youtube removed his video about it and gave him a strike, so it's definitely hit a nerve with them.

Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment...

If I'm understanding this app correctly, it basically "embeds" YouTube etc content, stripping the ads (somehow).

Can you or someone else explain to me why YouTube should host and serve the videos that this platform consumes? It seems like this project assumes that YouTube has an obligation to host & serve content for no renumeration at all. How is that a sane position to take?

I get irritated by adverts but I can't understand the entitlement of someone who thinks YouTube shoud do all of the legwork to ensure smooth video watching anywhere in the world but get nothing for it?

Absolutely fair point, but this is what happens when you push things so far the consumer starts to see it as taking the piss. I've watched vids where they were interrupted 5 times in 15mins; I've even watched livestreaming stuff where they interrupt and of course it's just as something interesting is about to happen. The way it was not so long ago didn't bother me, couple of ads at the start which I could skip after a few seconds and maybe a couple midway on a long video... you almost don't notice. But every 3-4mins.... it's worse than US TV! So inevitably folks start to push back by finding ways around it.

I guess what I'm saying is that up to a point they only have their selves to blame, they've made vids borderline unwatchable for many because it's just too much. I also suspect it's an overwhelming minority that are using workarounds so I doubt youtube are going to go bankrupt any time soon....

[TameRacingDriver]

I tend to agree that these things don't come free ultimately and if I could sub to premium for a tenner a month or less (without having to resort to the usual workarounds) then I probably would, but as with most of these companies, they're just that bit too greedy IMO. I know it's only, what, £3 more but psychologically it just feels too much. Maybe I'm just tight, but still...

[Graveworm]

trackdemon said:

Durzel said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Futo & Louis Rossman's no-advert video handling app Grayjay is available now - https://grayjay.app/index.html

It can run youtube or any other video site listed. You can import your subscriptions and many other options.

Futo have other projects too - https://futo.org/projects/


Ps. Youtube removed his video about it and gave him a strike, so it's definitely hit a nerve with them.

Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment...

If I'm understanding this app correctly, it basically "embeds" YouTube etc content, stripping the ads (somehow).

Can you or someone else explain to me why YouTube should host and serve the videos that this platform consumes? It seems like this project assumes that YouTube has an obligation to host & serve content for no renumeration at all. How is that a sane position to take?

I get irritated by adverts but I can't understand the entitlement of someone who thinks YouTube shoud do all of the legwork to ensure smooth video watching anywhere in the world but get nothing for it?

Absolutely fair point, but this is what happens when you push things so far the consumer starts to see it as taking the piss. I've watched vids where they were interrupted 5 times in 15mins; I've even watched livestreaming stuff where they interrupt and of course it's just as something interesting is about to happen. The way it was not so long ago didn't bother me, couple of ads at the start which I could skip after a few seconds and maybe a couple midway on a long video... you almost don't notice. But every 3-4mins.... it's worse than US TV! So inevitably folks start to push back by finding ways around it.

I guess what I'm saying is that up to a point they only have their selves to blame, they've made vids borderline unwatchable for many because it's just too much. I also suspect it's an overwhelming minority that are using workarounds so I doubt youtube are going to go bankrupt any time soon....

It only tries to stop ad blocking if you are signed in. It does seem wrong to explicitly agree not to do something, in order to use a product, then do it anyway because keeping an agreement involves some annoyance. If Youtube breached their side of the agreement, in a way that cost the user money, I suspect there wouldn't be such a live and let live attitude.

[Graveworm]

TameRacingDriver said:

I tend to agree that these things don't come free ultimately and if I could sub to premium for a tenner a month or less (without having to resort to the usual workarounds) then I probably would, but as with most of these companies, they're just that bit too greedy IMO. I know it's only, what, £3 more but psychologically it just feels too much. Maybe I'm just tight, but still...

If someone parked on your drive, to avoid paying for parking, even if it was really expensive, would you be OK about that?

[TameRacingDriver]

What a strange comment.

[pocketspring]

Graveworm said:

If someone parked on your drive, to avoid paying for parking, even if it was really expensive, would you be OK about that?

The thing is, it's not a driveway, it's a massive field. If people had free parking then a company took over and started to charge for parking, therefore forcing people to park in my field where I can't control it, I'd be going to the company telling them to charge less otherwise they will lose even more revenue.

[ecsrobin]

TameRacingDriver said:

I tend to agree that these things don't come free ultimately and if I could sub to premium for a tenner a month or less (without having to resort to the usual workarounds) then I probably would, but as with most of these companies, they're just that bit too greedy IMO. I know it's only, what, £3 more but psychologically it just feels too much. Maybe I'm just tight, but still...

I don’t get why you wouldn’t just use the workaround that gets it for around £2-3pm there are free VPN’s out there and the process takes no longer than 5-10 minutes.

[ecsrobin]

pocketspring said:

Graveworm said:

If someone parked on your drive, to avoid paying for parking, even if it was really expensive, would you be OK about that?

The thing is, it's not a driveway, it's a massive field. If people had free parking then a company took over and started to charge for parking, therefore forcing people to park in my field where I can't control it, I'd be going to the company telling them to charge less otherwise they will lose even more revenue.

But the “field” has never been free “parking”?

[FourWheelDrift]

Graveworm said:

If someone parked on your drive, to avoid paying for parking, even if it was really expensive, would you be OK about that?

Would you be ok about someone taking your own car off your driveway and using it without telling you where it's going and without your permission?

$5 billion consumer privacy lawsuit - https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-fails-en...

[TameRacingDriver]

ecsrobin said:

I don’t get why you wouldn’t just use the workaround that gets it for around £2-3pm there are free VPN’s out there and the process takes no longer than 5-10 minutes.

For a few reasons.

First, I pay £0 currently.

Second, it's still a "naughty" thing to be doing, and something they will almost certainly try and clamp down on just the same, and if you're going to go to the trouble of ripping something off, I'm not sure why I'd want to pay anything.

Third, it won't take 5-10 minutes - finding out how best to do it, actually doing it, resetting everything back up under a new account, because I don't want my Google account to be blocked.

My current method costs me absolutely nothing and so far, has been completely trouble free 99.9% of the time. As I've said though, if the price was a little cheaper I'd pay it, but it isn't, and the price seems to go up, year on year.

[ecsrobin]

TameRacingDriver said:

For a few reasons.

First, I pay £0 currently.

Second, it's still a "naughty" thing to be doing, and something they will almost certainly try and clamp down on just the same, and if you're going to go to the trouble of ripping something off, I'm not sure why I'd want to pay anything.

Third, it won't take 5-10 minutes - finding out how best to do it, actually doing it, resetting everything back up under a new account, because I don't want my Google account to be blocked.

My current method costs me absolutely nothing and so far, has been completely trouble free 99.9% of the time. As I've said though, if the price was a little cheaper I'd pay it, but it isn't, and the price seems to go up, year on year.

Your first point is irrelevant as you said yourself you would be happy to pay.

Second point isn’t really ripping something off. You choose to pay based on a different location. No different to someone who emigrates without cancelling their sub.

Third point It really does take 5-10 minutes, VPN to Philippines create google account, signup to YouTube premium, pay on a chase/Monzo type card for direct debit and close VPN. You’d also be surprised how good the Google algorithms are. I put in a couple of the channels I subscribed to and then it started to recommend all the other videos from creators I watch. I reckon within a week it had stopped recommending me random videos.

I should add I was like you and felt it was a hassle and not worth it even with friends recommending it.

Edited by ecsrobin on Monday 5th February 19:17

[Graveworm]

FourWheelDrift said:

Graveworm said:

If someone parked on your drive, to avoid paying for parking, even if it was really expensive, would you be OK about that?

Would you be ok about someone taking your own car off your driveway and using it without telling you where it's going and without your permission?

$5 billion consumer privacy lawsuit - https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-fails-en...

Google and users should all stick to what they agreed to. If Google have gone too far then they deserve everything they get, Why does that whataboutism excuse ad-blocking after agreeing not to? It's almost the opposite:- are you saying google should be able to say - we shouldn't use data without consent but, it's OK. because our users are using adblockers when they shouldn't.