Vista

[Noger]

HRG said:

Plotloss said:

HRG said:

It seems people prefer to sg it off rather than learn how it works.

I think the vast majority of dissatisfied users are running it on substandard hardware.

On the lappy its not the best, on the beast it runs like a dream.

Quite...

My lappy is new and designed for Vista. It's got 4GB of RAM and eats anything I ask of it. I can imagine it being a bot of a dog if you don't run it on suitable hardware though. Bit like sticking a Fiesta engine in an old Bentley.

Vista sucking quite a bit on underpowered hardware (and there can't be many people with a lower powered "out of the box" Vista machine than my Samsung Q1 ) isn't the same thing as having problems. Despite the Samsung being a bit woeful in the power dept, it is actually flawless running Vista, and has none of the sleep problem it's far more powerful TabletPC brother has. The Q1U came with Vista, the Tosh was an upgrade.

P.S whilst you can trawl the even view to troubleshoot sleep problems, if you go to COntrol Panel / Performance Information and Tools / Advanced Tools you should have a "Peformance Issues" section, which will often point you at which drivers are causing problems.

[Mattt]

jimmyb said:

It s weird how sometimes you hanker after the old days. My favourite has to be 3.11 windows or 95/98. Stable and importantly so very very easy to use.

I love rose tinted glasses. Go back to it now, and you will be crying for Vista back!

[jimmyb]

Mattt said:

jimmyb said:

It s weird how sometimes you hanker after the old days. My favourite has to be 3.11 windows or 95/98. Stable and importantly so very very easy to use.

I love rose tinted glasses. Go back to it now, and you will be crying for Vista back!

Who knows. The thing I liked about them was their simplicity no going through 4 million windows to do the simplest thing.

[HRG]

Mattt said:

jimmyb said:

It s weird how sometimes you hanker after the old days. My favourite has to be 3.11 windows or 95/98. Stable and importantly so very very easy to use.

I love rose tinted glasses. Go back to it now, and you will be crying for Vista back!

But if 3.1 broke you just copied your backup set of .ini files back on and away you went. No more complex than a single cylinder engine with a carb!

[dave_s13]

Had vista runing on my HTPC, which has a stload of RAM and a 5000+ CPU and other such good stuff.

It was great for about 2 months then gradually ground to a halt and would no longer play any High def blu ray rips, which is it's main function. Tried to restore it back to original settings and spent ages un/re-installing codecs etc all to no avail.

Back to XP now and it works a treat.

[BaconBonce]

jimmyb said:

My favourite has to be 3.11 windows or 95/98. Stable and importantly so very very easy to use.

There are many words I could use to describe Windows 95 & Windows 98....although "stable" wouldn't be one of them

[HRG]

BaconBonce said:

jimmyb said:

My favourite has to be 3.11 windows or 95/98. Stable and importantly so very very easy to use.

There are many words I could use to describe Windows 95 & Windows 98....although "stable" wouldn't be one of them

Memory leaks?

[Jinx]

HRG said:

Memory leaks?

Have they actually solved that one or as we now have 4 gigs of Ram we don't notice 8 megs or so disappearing?

[Accelebrate]

HRG said:

Bit like sticking a Fiesta engine in an old Bentley.

I love the way people are happy to excuse bloatware by passing the blame onto the hardware. If you turn all the memory sucking rubbish off vista will run smoothly on older hardware.

Needing 4gb of ram to run an OS smoothly due to its inefficient flashiness is not progress, the future, or 'just the way it is' it's just poor design.

[2something]

Accelebrate said:

HRG said:

Bit like sticking a Fiesta engine in an old Bentley.

I love the way people are happy to excuse bloatware by passing the blame onto the hardware. If you turn all the memory sucking rubbish off vista will run smoothly on older hardware.

Needing 4gb of ram to run an OS smoothly due to its inefficient flashiness is not progress, the future, or 'just the way it is' it's just poor design.

I will have to check out what I can turn off in Vista, as the OH's laptop is running Vista and it's total, complete and utter rubbish compared to XP on my laptop which is 18+ months older and most likely bloated with loads of stuff that I don't need.

[Mattt]

TweakVI was pretty good at that IIRC - but I only looked at the demo version briefly.

[Munter]

The thing that annoys me with Vista is setting up network printers. I've given up on the "search for network printers" type route. Where it refuses to talk to the printer. And just go right for install local printer, and set the port as the remote printers address. Works every time. And no we dont have this problem with XP.

That aside I prefer Vista.

[CombeMarshal]

The only way you get problems with Vista is when you fiddle about with it and not really know 100% what your doing!
Got my Laptop while in America at the start of the year, and it has been faultless, trouble is a lot of PC's these days are made up of mis-matched bits I guess!
And no longer do you click on Start to stop the machine!

[Globulator]

One of the big problems with Vista (and much software in general) is the bloat of the code. Vista has code from Win3/3.1/3.11/Win95/Win98/Win98se/WinME/NT/NT2000/XP/Vista all knocking about in there.

An operating system is supposed to be just that: a framework API in which to run programs, and hopefully a desktop and graphics API too.

My Ubuntu 8.04 linux system runs fine on a 1Ghz PIII laptop with 256MB of RAM, bigger firefox 3 sessions cause some swapping but on the whole it's not slow. Nice tidy desktop, easy to use, virus free, absolute reliability. This is technology.

So if you are having issues with Vista I suggest you try Ubuntu Linux, fast, efficient and rapidly growing in popularity, complete with ODF compliant Office software.

[Catherine197]

I think we might have managed to solve the problems that cleticpilgrim reported.

I have unchecked the option called "Web Assistant" within the pointer menu in control panel. So far so good, he just needs to try surfacing a bit more to ensure that it is no longer an issue for him.

[HRG]

Globulator said:

One of the big problems with Vista (and much software in general) is the bloat of the code. Vista has code from Win3/3.1/3.11/Win95/Win98/Win98se/WinME/NT/NT2000/XP/Vista all knocking about in there.

An operating system is supposed to be just that: a framework API in which to run programs, and hopefully a desktop and graphics API too.

My Ubuntu 8.04 linux system runs fine on a 1Ghz PIII laptop with 256MB of RAM, bigger firefox 3 sessions cause some swapping but on the whole it's not slow. Nice tidy desktop, easy to use, virus free, absolute reliability. This is technology.

So if you are having issues with Vista I suggest you try Ubuntu Linux, fast, efficient and rapidly growing in popularity, complete with ODF compliant Office software.

You forgot the DEC Vax stuff

[Globulator]

HRG said:

Globulator said:

One of the big problems with Vista (and much software in general) is the bloat of the code. Vista has code from Win3/3.1/3.11/Win95/Win98/Win98se/WinME/NT/NT2000/XP/Vista all knocking about in there.

An operating system is supposed to be just that: a framework API in which to run programs, and hopefully a desktop and graphics API too.

My Ubuntu 8.04 linux system runs fine on a 1Ghz PIII laptop with 256MB of RAM, bigger firefox 3 sessions cause some swapping but on the whole it's not slow. Nice tidy desktop, easy to use, virus free, absolute reliability. This is technology.

So if you are having issues with Vista I suggest you try Ubuntu Linux, fast, efficient and rapidly growing in popularity, complete with ODF compliant Office software.

You forgot the DEC Vax stuff

And the wonderful VT240 colour terminal

Seriously though - Ubuntu is so slick and fast now I'm in danger of replacing my open toed sandals with some trendy running shoe made in a dodgy sweatshop

Ubuntu Desktop Tour

[GregE240]

mattgarnham said:

yes
install xp

Very helpful.

Yes, its in the trackpad software.

[J-Tuner]

I've just installed Vista Home Premimum 32bit on my girlfriends gaming pc i built for her and got a 5.9 system rating when we tested it. It flies like st off a well polished shovel. I think its a great piece of kit personally. If the hardware isnt up to the job then stick with XP.

It's still slower loading the desktop from powering on than my older system on 64 Bit XP though - thats annoyed her a bit

Oh and you people who are wishing we were back on 3.11 95/98 - the thought sends a chill down my spine....