Can anyone beat this?

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ApexJimi

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25,040 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T5750 (2.00 GHz, 667 MHz FSB, 2 MB L2 cache)
Genuine Windows Vista SP1™ Home Premium - English
1 Year Base Warranty
2.0 Mega pixel Integrated Web Camera
15.4" Wide Screen WXGA+ (1440 x 900) Display with TrueLife™
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
250GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100
8x DVD+/-RW Optical drive, including SW
6-cell battery
Accessories
Wireless 355 Bluetooth 2.0 Module (up to 3Mbps) with Enhanced Data rate - Eur
Wireless 1395 802.11b/g Mini-Card - Europe
Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word)
56.6k V.92 Capable Internal Modem & Adapter - UK

For £499?

Edit: This? - http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/425478/AC...



Edited by ApexJimi on Wednesday 2nd July 19:29

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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are we talking price or service?

you do afterall get what you pay forwink

ApexJimi

Original Poster:

25,040 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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I'm talking spec of laptop for the money...


plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Yes thanks I can. Anyway is got shared video memory which is generally ste.

ApexJimi

Original Poster:

25,040 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Good, second step - what would you go for instead?

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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ApexJimi said:
Good, second step - what would you go for instead?
For a sub £500

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_7720G-1...

Golfman

5,495 posts

247 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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I bought an ASUS from laptopsdirect around a year ago, typing this on it now, been fine!

I am looking at the Dell XPS machines as I need to buy something within the next week. Their spec seems hard to beat:

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/feature...

Liszt

4,329 posts

271 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Just ordered a M1730 yesterday:
BASE Intel® Core(tm) 2 Duo Processor
T9300 (2.50 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 6 MB L2 cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista SP1(tm)Ultimate - English
LCD 17.0" UltraSharp(tm) WUXGA
(1920x1200) TFT with TrueLife(tm) with Integrated 2.0MP web cam
MEMORY 4096MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM[2x2048]
HARD DRIVE 400GB Free Fall Sensor Raid 0 Stripe -2 X 200GB (7200RPM) Hard Drive
GRAPHICS CARD DUAL SLI 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800GTXcard
PHYSICS PCI CARD Ageia PhysX Processing Unit Card
OPTICAL DRIVE Blu-ray Disc DVD+/-RW Optical Drive including software
BLUETOOTH Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth 2.0 Module (up to 3 Mbps) with Enhanced Data Rate EUR
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-Card - Europe - Core 2 Duo Processors



Cost a bit more than £500 though.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Liszt said:
Just ordered a M1730 yesterday:
BASE Intel® Core(tm) 2 Duo Processor
T9300 (2.50 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 6 MB L2 cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista SP1(tm)Ultimate - English
LCD 17.0" UltraSharp(tm) WUXGA
(1920x1200) TFT with TrueLife(tm) with Integrated 2.0MP web cam
MEMORY 4096MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM[2x2048]
HARD DRIVE 400GB Free Fall Sensor Raid 0 Stripe -2 X 200GB (7200RPM) Hard Drive
GRAPHICS CARD DUAL SLI 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800GTXcard
PHYSICS PCI CARD Ageia PhysX Processing Unit Card
OPTICAL DRIVE Blu-ray Disc DVD+/-RW Optical Drive including software
BLUETOOTH Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth 2.0 Module (up to 3 Mbps) with Enhanced Data Rate EUR
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-Card - Europe - Core 2 Duo Processors



Cost a bit more than £500 though.
I take it that the Vista is 64 bit? Otherwise whats the point in having 4GB memory?

Liszt

4,329 posts

271 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Dell ship it as 32 bit but it will be blown away and replaced by 64 bit. It has a 2x2gb config which I will probably upgrade when 4gb sodimm chips become available.

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

202 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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plasticpig said:
I take it that the Vista is 64 bit? Otherwise whats the point in having 4GB memory?
You do realise that 32bit can actually make use of more than 4GB don't you? Just that there's a per process limit of 2GB (or 3GB with the right switches passed).

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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LivinLaVidaLotus said:
plasticpig said:
I take it that the Vista is 64 bit? Otherwise whats the point in having 4GB memory?
You do realise that 32bit can actually make use of more than 4GB don't you? Just that there's a per process limit of 2GB (or 3GB with the right switches passed).
Yes thanks. I am also aware that plenty of applications dont set the LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag and that there are plenty of crappily written device drivers and programs that will crash if you use the "right switches" becuase they assume a limit of 2GB. The per process limit is 4gb by the way 2GB Kernel space and 2gb user space.

Liszt

4,329 posts

271 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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plasticpig said:
LivinLaVidaLotus said:
plasticpig said:
I take it that the Vista is 64 bit? Otherwise whats the point in having 4GB memory?
You do realise that 32bit can actually make use of more than 4GB don't you? Just that there's a per process limit of 2GB (or 3GB with the right switches passed).
Yes thanks. I am also aware that plenty of applications dont set the LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag and that there are plenty of crappily written device drivers and programs that will crash if you use the "right switches" becuase they assume a limit of 2GB. The per process limit is 4gb by the way 2GB Kernel space and 2gb user space.
and thats why you should never get in to a willy waving contest on PH

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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plasticpig said:
ApexJimi said:
Good, second step - what would you go for instead?
For a sub £500

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_7720G-1...
I think we have a winner!

Its similar spec to my home laptop, but that came with 3gig instead of 2, but only a 15" screen, not a 17.

mft

1,752 posts

223 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Liszt said:
plasticpig said:
LivinLaVidaLotus said:
plasticpig said:
I take it that the Vista is 64 bit? Otherwise whats the point in having 4GB memory?
You do realise that 32bit can actually make use of more than 4GB don't you? Just that there's a per process limit of 2GB (or 3GB with the right switches passed).
Yes thanks. I am also aware that plenty of applications dont set the LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag and that there are plenty of crappily written device drivers and programs that will crash if you use the "right switches" becuase they assume a limit of 2GB. The per process limit is 4gb by the way 2GB Kernel space and 2gb user space.
and thats why you should never get in to a willy waving contest on PH
Indeed - pwnd biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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plasticpig said:
LivinLaVidaLotus said:
plasticpig said:
I take it that the Vista is 64 bit? Otherwise whats the point in having 4GB memory?
You do realise that 32bit can actually make use of more than 4GB don't you? Just that there's a per process limit of 2GB (or 3GB with the right switches passed).
Yes thanks. I am also aware that plenty of applications dont set the LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag and that there are plenty of crappily written device drivers and programs that will crash if you use the "right switches" becuase they assume a limit of 2GB. The per process limit is 4gb by the way 2GB Kernel space and 2gb user space.
How?

I've heard this mentioned a few times, but have been unable to figure out how (admittedly I've not looked particularly hard). My work laptop has an Intel 945 GM Express chipset along with 4GB RAM inside a Fujitsu Siemens E8110. According to Intel, this chipset should support up to 4GB, but XP 32bit reports 3.24GB - I presume that's 3GB plus the 240MB ish of integrated video memory?

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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LexSport said:
plasticpig said:
LivinLaVidaLotus said:
plasticpig said:
I take it that the Vista is 64 bit? Otherwise whats the point in having 4GB memory?
You do realise that 32bit can actually make use of more than 4GB don't you? Just that there's a per process limit of 2GB (or 3GB with the right switches passed).
Yes thanks. I am also aware that plenty of applications dont set the LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag and that there are plenty of crappily written device drivers and programs that will crash if you use the "right switches" becuase they assume a limit of 2GB. The per process limit is 4gb by the way 2GB Kernel space and 2gb user space.
How?

I've heard this mentioned a few times, but have been unable to figure out how (admittedly I've not looked particularly hard). My work laptop has an Intel 945 GM Express chipset along with 4GB RAM inside a Fujitsu Siemens E8110. According to Intel, this chipset should support up to 4GB, but XP 32bit reports 3.24GB - I presume that's 3GB plus the 240MB ish of integrated video memory?
XP calculates memory as Total memory - Memory address range allocated to hardware. Somewhere juse over 3gb free is fairly typical.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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'Scuse I for being thick (and derailing the topic yet further), but does this mean that it is using the full 4GB or isn't and cannot?

Confused of Oxfordcestershire.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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LexSport said:
'Scuse I for being thick (and derailing the topic yet further), but does this mean that it is using the full 4GB or isn't and cannot?

Confused of Oxfordcestershire.
Simple answer is no it is not using the full 4GB and cant.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Thanks! That's what I thought but having seen mentions here and elsewhere of 32bit OSs using 4GB+ had me thinking. Thanks for humouring me.