Google Chrome Browser

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Noger

7,117 posts

249 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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By any metric - speed, acceleration, looks, stability, handling, you name it - all your cars you have or have had are total rubbish.

By all means use whatever floats your boat, but I really cannot understand why anyone would use a fecking Punto or an ancient BMW when the presence of Porsche or TVR or Caterham would do so much better on any road.

smile




J111

3,354 posts

215 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Noger said:
By any metric - speed, acceleration, looks, stability, handling, you name it - all your cars you have or have had are total rubbish.

By all means use whatever floats your boat, but I really cannot understand why anyone would use a fecking Punto or an ancient BMW when the presence of Porsche or TVR or Caterham would do so much better on any road.

smile
Who's giving away free Porsches and please may I have one ?

HBFS

799 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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I'm using chrome at the moment, I think it has some excellent innovative features though IMO it lacks a couple of features that Opera has that I find very useful:

The ability to resurrect a tab closed accidentally, by hitting ctrl + Z. Sure you can do this by going into your history, (or not if your in Incognito) but it takes a little longer.

Finally my favourite; Hold the left mouse button and click the right mouse button to go forwards one page and vice versa to go back a page.

Stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

210 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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late to the debate but has anyone discussed the massive security risk this tool presents? I wont mention more yet incase you have talked about it...

CR0X

1,841 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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  • bump.
How are people getting on with Chrome?

I have been running it for general browsing (so copyright issue not an issue) and quite impressed.

Any early issues seem to have been ironed out quickly. I do miss the front page of Opera, or Fast Dial in FF3, but otherwise, I quite like it.

I am sure that it will only get better. It is my choice now to use it, FF3 just seems clunky compared to it.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

270 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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I've forsaken all others.

It's ace.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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What's it like for putting spyware type collecting things on your pc and making it run slow forever more?

xiphias

5,888 posts

227 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Judging by the way its put together, it should be one of the, if not the most secure out there.

Zad

12,698 posts

236 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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I regard it as unusable until AdBlock Plus or similar is ported to it.


sstein

6,249 posts

254 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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TonyHetherington said:
What's it like for putting spyware type collecting things on your pc and making it run slow forever more?
It installs GoogleUpdate.exe, note the browser is open-source but GoogleUpdate isnt!

Also it decides when it should be un-installed, I don't think it auto-uninstalls when Google is removed.

This really bugged me about Safari on Windows, it seemed to install a load of crap on your machine!

I will not be touching Chrome!

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Stuart

pikey

7,699 posts

284 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Plotloss said:
I've forsaken all others.

It's ace.
Agree. yes

xiphias

5,888 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Just installed this. 2mins later made it my default browser and job done.

It's chuffin' quick I tell thee.

Stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

210 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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geeks

xiphias

5,888 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Unfortunately geeks are what make all the useful things in your house.

Stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

210 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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not really.

The original beta of Chrome had an interesting issue in which even https pages were indexed into a clear text flat database file which had no security applied. It makes you question just what else the browser will do, the potential issues it will have and what it gives you over other browsers.

Got google tool bar installed? Ever watched traffic with wireshark? Got Firefox installed? Same again.

sstein

6,249 posts

254 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Stigmundfreud said:
not really.

The original beta of Chrome had an interesting issue in which even https pages were indexed into a clear text flat database file which had no security applied. It makes you question just what else the browser will do, the potential issues it will have and what it gives you over other browsers.

Got google tool bar installed? Ever watched traffic with wireshark? Got Firefox installed? Same again.
Yep, I have ran Wireshark while running Google Chrome and Google toolbar. I woln't allow any Google software to run on my PC.

Other features it's lacking (or was when I tested it)

Cookie control (Black list / white list on what sites can set cookies).
Script control, ( I woln't use a browser without the equivalent of NoScript in firefox).
An updater that didn't uninstall itself when the browser is gone, and was still phoning home!

Another interesting bit, on of the text entry fields on the browser seems to relay exactly what you type back to google in real-time! It's a real time keylogger!

Also, the first time I installed it, it auto-downloaded files as default!!! That's asking for trouble. It also didn't offer the facility, or at least I couldn't find it, to set a master password like you do in firefox for remembering passwords. It remembers them but there was no facility to protect those passwords for people with physical access.

Not impressed! Especially when it's big selling point was supposed to be making the web safer.

On a wider point, why are browsers such memory hogs nowadays. I don't want my browser to be a mini OS and a platform to run applications from. I just want it to render web pages and cut out client side scripting. THATS IT. The fact that modern browsers can take over 100 or 200MB of memory is madness!


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Stuart



Edited by sstein on Wednesday 29th October 22:16

mft

1,752 posts

222 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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xiphias said:
It's chuffin' quick I tell thee.
In what way? I'm not denying that it is, but I'm running Firefox on relatively modest hardware (a single core Atom processor) and I can't imagine where it could be noticeably faster?

xiphias

5,888 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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You click a page, it appears. No delays whilst the system has a good think. So far anyway.

Stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

210 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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sstein said:
Stigmundfreud said:
not really.

The original beta of Chrome had an interesting issue in which even https pages were indexed into a clear text flat database file which had no security applied. It makes you question just what else the browser will do, the potential issues it will have and what it gives you over other browsers.

Got google tool bar installed? Ever watched traffic with wireshark? Got Firefox installed? Same again.
Yep, I have ran Wireshark while running Google Chrome and Google toolbar. I woln't allow any Google software to run on my PC.

Other features it's lacking (or was when I tested it)

Cookie control (Black list / white list on what sites can set cookies).
Script control, ( I woln't use a browser without the equivalent of NoScript in firefox).
An updater that didn't uninstall itself when the browser is gone, and was still phoning home!

Another interesting bit, on of the text entry fields on the browser seems to relay exactly what you type back to google in real-time! It's a real time keylogger!

Also, the first time I installed it, it auto-downloaded files as default!!! That's asking for trouble. It also didn't offer the facility, or at least I couldn't find it, to set a master password like you do in firefox for remembering passwords. It remembers them but there was no facility to protect those passwords for people with physical access.

Not impressed! Especially when it's big selling point was supposed to be making the web safer.

On a wider point, why are browsers such memory hogs nowadays. I don't want my browser to be a mini OS and a platform to run applications from. I just want it to render web pages and cut out client side scripting. THATS IT. The fact that modern browsers can take over 100 or 200MB of memory is madness!


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Stuart



Edited by sstein on Wednesday 29th October 22:16
interesting, I never tested whilst entering data so I'll fire it up tomorrow as its under evaluation. Are you sure about the feeding back text entries? Another issue with the browser is it auto updates silently without you knowing. Earlier today I fired up a new vmware running a fresh mandriva install, Firefox was running and seemingly calling home to a google address...

sstein

6,249 posts

254 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Stigmundfreud said:
sstein said:
Stigmundfreud said:
not really.

The original beta of Chrome had an interesting issue in which even https pages were indexed into a clear text flat database file which had no security applied. It makes you question just what else the browser will do, the potential issues it will have and what it gives you over other browsers.

Got google tool bar installed? Ever watched traffic with wireshark? Got Firefox installed? Same again.
Yep, I have ran Wireshark while running Google Chrome and Google toolbar. I woln't allow any Google software to run on my PC.

Other features it's lacking (or was when I tested it)

Cookie control (Black list / white list on what sites can set cookies).
Script control, ( I woln't use a browser without the equivalent of NoScript in firefox).
An updater that didn't uninstall itself when the browser is gone, and was still phoning home!

Another interesting bit, on of the text entry fields on the browser seems to relay exactly what you type back to google in real-time! It's a real time keylogger!

Also, the first time I installed it, it auto-downloaded files as default!!! That's asking for trouble. It also didn't offer the facility, or at least I couldn't find it, to set a master password like you do in firefox for remembering passwords. It remembers them but there was no facility to protect those passwords for people with physical access.

Not impressed! Especially when it's big selling point was supposed to be making the web safer.

On a wider point, why are browsers such memory hogs nowadays. I don't want my browser to be a mini OS and a platform to run applications from. I just want it to render web pages and cut out client side scripting. THATS IT. The fact that modern browsers can take over 100 or 200MB of memory is madness!


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Stuart



Edited by sstein on Wednesday 29th October 22:16
interesting, I never tested whilst entering data so I'll fire it up tomorrow as its under evaluation. Are you sure about the feeding back text entries? Another issue with the browser is it auto updates silently without you knowing. Earlier today I fired up a new vmware running a fresh mandriva install, Firefox was running and seemingly calling home to a google address...
Fire up wireshark, and then start typing stuff into googles omnibox smile.

As I understand it you can turn the feature off, but like most of the bad features in chrome, it's on by default.

cnet said:
The auto-suggest feature of Google's new Chrome browser does more than just help users get where they are going. It will also give Google a wealth of information on what people are doing on the Internet besides searching.

Provided that users leave Chrome's auto-suggest feature on and have Google as their default search provider, Google will have access to any keystrokes that are typed into the browser's Omnibox, even before a user hits enter.

What's more, Google has every intention of retaining some of that data even after it provides the promised suggestions. A Google representative told CNET News that the company plans to store about 2 percent of that data--and plans to store it along with the Internet Protocol address of the computer that typed it.

In theory, that means that if one were to type the address of a site--even if they decide not to hit enter--they could leave incriminating evidence on Google's servers.
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Stuart