HTC Desire

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dav123a

1,220 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Cheers Funk all back working.
woohoo

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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No problem, glad I could help! smile

fluffnik

20,156 posts

227 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Well, I'm back in love with mine. smile

LeeDroid HD GB 3.3.3 R5 A3SD++, Sense 3.0, no more space shortages... cloud9

959

226 posts

192 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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I use an app called Astro on my stock dhd, it has a task killer which kills most apps even sense, I don't have a pc and read bad things about rooting with a Mac.
Has anyone hear successfully rooted a dhd with a Mac?

Dogsey

4,300 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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959 said:
I use an app called Astro on my stock dhd, it has a task killer which kills most apps even sense, I don't have a pc and read bad things about rooting with a Mac.
Has anyone hear successfully rooted a dhd with a Mac?
Get rid of the task killer. Android, being Linux based, doesn't work like PC's and Mac's, less memory is actually a better thing as it means apps you use frequently open quickly. When Android needs more memory it just kills the oldest thing in memory.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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I think most people use task killer to help increase battery life. I'm sure I've read reports from tests where it has improved battery performance by 5-10% on aggressive.

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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App Killers don't work on Android, they actually decrease efficiency and speed. Any 'increase' in battery life is probably circumstantial (no two days of use are the same) or placebo.

someone cleverer than me said:
I'll start off with an analogy: You have things on your desk right? They're quick and easy to access, but you don't always need to use them. Imagine your desk had too much stuff on it, and you needed to put something else on it. Now you'd normally put one or two things in a drawer to clear space for said item. That's exactly how Android is supposed to work. By using a task killer, you're constantly putting everything into your drawer and having to get it out of the drawer to use it. Sounds like a lot of effort? Well that's exactly what you're doing to your phone.

Android/Linux has two different types of app states - 'Running' and 'Cached'. Apps that are 'Cached' are in memory, but do not use any other resources, and is kept there so that they boot up faster. This is done with every application until the memory is full, and If another application needs more memory than free available, the Linux kernel kills apps based on their priority (Lowest first):



Now obviously you need power to kill the apps, and this is where the problem lies. It takes more CPU power to kill the apps and reload them back into memory than it does to just leave it there. Android's native memory management is pretty much instant, and the end-user will not notice it happening. On top of that, you can be assured you aren't killing a vital part of the system (Keyboard, google apps) and creating issues for yourself. Now using a task killer isn't all bad - There can be games and poorly coded apps (Dolphin Browser HD) that never reach this 'Cached' state and constantly use CPU power. These apps should be killed.

The problem with using task killers is that once you've killed the task, you are left with free, useless memory, and in turn use more power to load the parts of the app that otherwise would have still been in memory. I'll leave you with the #1 rule of Android: Free memory is wasted memory.
Don't use 'em, they're not good for the phone and cause more problems than you think they solve.

Gompo

4,411 posts

258 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Not sure if this has been covered in this thread elsewhere but:

When typing relatively quickly on my Desire S sometimes it will delete a letter as if it thinks it was an accident - eg. just trying to type 'the', if I quickly type the 't' then 'h' it will delete the 't'.

Is this a known Android fault/glitch/annoyance that I just can't get used to? Happy with the standard 'keyboard' for the most part, is the only cure a different keyboard app?

Cheers.

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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I couldn't be without Swype, I've barely used the standard keyboard.

Dogsey

4,300 posts

230 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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0000 said:
I couldn't be without Swype, I've never used the standard keyboard.
This for me.

Buffalo

5,435 posts

254 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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What is the latest android version you can run on HTC Desire (not HD) and what is a good image/ version to use? I unlocked mine a while back using Funk's instructions and one of the v2 android images as mentioned on these pages and it's been allrrrriiighht, but nowt special. Wondered if there's much more life in the old dog yet, or has everyone moved on to other phones now? smile

croyde

22,898 posts

230 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Still have mine after 2 and a half years, completely bog standard Orange phone. The only thing that annoys me is the lack of on board memory for Apps. Called Orange yesterday about upgrade options but they all involve nearly doubling my monthly cost so may keep it a while longer.

Lois

14,706 posts

252 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I got the one s free on orange with 500mb data, 3000 texts and 100 mins for £20 a month plus £100 cashback.

moleamol

15,887 posts

263 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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My One S was free with 1250MB data, 3000 texts, 2 Swappables, Unlimited BT Openzone WiFi, 900 minutes, 30 picture messages for £31 a month.

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I've moved to the One X; free on 24mo, 1.5Gb data, 1Gb BT Wifi, 1200 mins, unlimited texts and £23/mo. I can use half of my minutes calling internationally and all 08 numbers come out of inclusive minutes too, rather than being chargeable.

Honey Badger

354 posts

222 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Buffalo said:
What is the latest android version you can run on HTC Desire (not HD) and what is a good image/ version to use? I unlocked mine a while back using Funk's instructions and one of the v2 android images as mentioned on these pages and it's been allrrrriiighht, but nowt special. Wondered if there's much more life in the old dog yet, or has everyone moved on to other phones now? smile
They've managed to get ICS working properly on it now, I've been using the BCM port of CM9 for a few weeks now and it's been really stable.

cuneus

5,963 posts

242 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Jelly bean as well (early days!)

croyde

22,898 posts

230 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Funk said:
I've moved to the One X; free on 24mo, 1.5Gb data, 1Gb BT Wifi, 1200 mins, unlimited texts and £23/mo. I can use half of my minutes calling internationally and all 08 numbers come out of inclusive minutes too, rather than being chargeable.
That's a good deal, who's that with?

tenohfive

6,276 posts

182 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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My Desire has still been going strong but I'm now having issues with the mic - when I call people they say I sound like I'm really far away from the phone and I have to near enough shout to be heard. I thought it might be related to the ROM (one of the older variants of ICS) but I've updated that to the latest version and it's still doing it?

Any ideas?

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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croyde said:
That's a good deal, who's that with?
T-Mobile. Got a similar deal for Mum at the weekend on a One S - she's a talker, so got 2000 mins, unlimited data, unlimited texts, free phone on 24mo for £26. She doesn't call internationally or 08 numbers much - when she does, I've shown her how to use 'Say No To 0870' on her iPhone so stuck with this approach on her One S hehe The One X was a little too large for her.

Stupid thing - the feature she's most happy with? The 'Mirror' app. Nowt stranger, eh?