TV detector vans and laptops

[lestag]

OllieC said:

lestag said:

All a TV licence is is a tax.
These days, considering "everyone" has a TV, why doesn't some bright spark in government abolish the licence and fund BBC from general tax. It would sure cut the cost of administering it.

EFA

[Nolar Dog]

B160 AVE said:

Ok, you obviously know more about it than me, but it`s there in black and white on their website, we even rang up to confirm and they said yes, if it`s a battery operated device requiring no external power, you are covered under your home tv licence. If you have to plug it in to gain a power source you require a new licence.

That's a little bit different to how you explained it initially though isn't it.

Have a smile:

[pacman1]

Nolar Dog said:

B160 AVE said:

Ok, you obviously know more about it than me, but it`s there in black and white on their website, we even rang up to confirm and they said yes, if it`s a battery operated device requiring no external power, you are covered under your home tv licence. If you have to plug it in to gain a power source you require a new licence.

That's a little bit different to how you explained it initially though isn't it.

Have a smile:

5/10 for recovery.

[B160 AVE]

Nolar Dog said:

B160 AVE said:

Ok, you obviously know more about it than me, but it`s there in black and white on their website, we even rang up to confirm and they said yes, if it`s a battery operated device requiring no external power, you are covered under your home tv licence. If you have to plug it in to gain a power source you require a new licence.

That's a little bit different to how you explained it initially though isn't it.

Have a smile:

Hmmm not really, but not to worry, I won`t take it personally lol thanks for the smile, I feel better now

[Mr_Yogi]

Jayzee said:

Regarding using a TV for games consoles - if it has a tuner fitted capable of receiving BBC signals, you must pay the licence fee.

Stop spouting this BS!

[Nolar Dog]

And dogs?
Do I need a licence for those?

[Nolar Dog]

Thank you for clearing that up PW.

[Fletch79]

GregE240 said:

zac510 said:

Wow, how did they know you were 'the occupier' ? Their power and much touted database must know no bounds

This really ticks me off about them. I bought a tv last year, but the address I gave ommitted my house name. Stupid basterds couldn't put 2 and 2 together and work out we actually had a licence.

Nothing addressed to me or my missus, just "The Occupier", all sorts of threats, you're up for a big fine, we'll come round and prove you don't have a licence, all thinly veiled threat stuff.

I was prepared to see it through but my missus told me to ring or email them. I emailed my licence and told them to eff off. Got an email saying they acknowledged I had a licence, no apology. Tossers.

I've had 3 tvs in the last 2 years and every time i get this letter (yes the address is identocal to the one on the licence) and every time i phone them up, try to be nice but there a bunch of idiots, i usual end up telling them they have worried my mrs unduly while i have been working away from home with there threatening letter ... dunno why i bother it has never got me anywhere and everytime i buy somethinng tv related i get the same letter .... wkERS!

[Jayzee]

Mr_Yogi said:

Jayzee said:

Regarding using a TV for games consoles - if it has a tuner fitted capable of receiving BBC signals, you must pay the licence fee.

Stop spouting this BS!

Woah there! The example I was giving was based on NO PCs, or anything else at the property - just a simple screen without a tuner used for a games console. This scenario is unlikely however.

I speak from my experience with the Licencing feckers giving me grief at the time. If I was in the above scenario, then there would ne no issue. I had this in writing from them.

It was my particular example - nothing more.

I'm not in any way saying that I am an authority on this , just sharing my experience on here

Edited by Jayzee on Friday 11th June 18:15

[Jayzee]

Rusty Arches said:

Jayzee said:

We sorted that one, then the performing rights feckers had a go for using a radio in the workshop. I'm sure these departments talk to each other...

Which is why you should never comply or even enter into discussion with them.

I didn't, I just told them to fk off

I found it strange that after the Licencing people visited, we then had the PR people on our door :angry:

[Jayzee]

PW said:

Not being available outside the UK is a commercial rights issue.

Thanks for clearing that one up

As I mentioned, I wasn't too sure why this was.

Edited by Jayzee on Friday 11th June 18:29

[arfur daley]

if its "there in black and white" on there website, does that mean the licence is cheaper?

[Jayzee]

trooperiziz said:

Jayzee said:

Regarding using a TV for games consoles - if it has a tuner fitted capable of receiving BBC signals, you must pay the licence fee.

OH FFS, do people not even read the tv licencing website, this bullst just gets repeated every single time in these threads.

Direct quote from http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one...

"You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder."

Purely owning a TV with a tuner is not enough.

I am covered by a Licence... at home, and I assume this covers my car too?

[trooperiziz]

Jayzee said:

trooperiziz said:

Jayzee said:

Regarding using a TV for games consoles - if it has a tuner fitted capable of receiving BBC signals, you must pay the licence fee.

OH FFS, do people not even read the tv licencing website, this bullst just gets repeated every single time in these threads.

Direct quote from http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one...

"You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder."

Purely owning a TV with a tuner is not enough.

I am covered by a Licence... at home, and I assume this covers my car too?

Yup

[Mr E Driver]

I wonder if they interpret 'mains powered' as being a lappy that is powered by a battery but you plug the mains in to charge the battery?

[andyps]

Is there really a difference between the logic behind the sticky in this section on piracy - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - and the main subject of this thread? Can any of those posting implications that they don't pay a licence fee but have a TV really say that they never watch any of the output of the BBC. Without the licence fee there would be no iPlayer, no BBC radio, no BBC website and obviously no BBC TV (at least in current form).

Do we really want F1 on subscription or interrupted by ads? Do you want the same for the world cup?

I may not be the biggest fan of the BBC, but to complain about £12 a month for all they provide, particularly in comparison to a Sky subscription (or even one to Spotify) does seem to be stingy to me.

[trooperiziz]

FWIW, I have a licence and don't mind paying.

I do mind the licencing authority and their heavy handed, threatening posturing, and downright lies.

[Cheese Mechanic]

andyps said:

Is there really a difference between the logic behind the sticky in this section on piracy - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - and the main subject of this thread? Can any of those posting implications that they don't pay a licence fee but have a TV really say that they never watch any of the output of the BBC. Without the licence fee there would be no iPlayer, no BBC radio, no BBC website and obviously no BBC TV (at least in current form).

Do we really want F1 on subscription or interrupted by ads? Do you want the same for the world cup?

I may not be the biggest fan of the BBC, but to complain about £12 a month for all they provide, particularly in comparison to a Sky subscription (or even one to Spotify) does seem to be stingy to me.

I don't have a license, and I don't have a telly. The problem is not paying for something , its being forced to pay for something whether wanted or not.

If they can apply this license fee to to other things how about paying a license fee to Sainsbury's when you only use Tesco's.?

There should not be a license fee, the BBC should be by subscription, like others. You want their service you pay, if you don't and want to watch other services then you don't pay. Simple.

[Murph7355]

Cheese Mechanic said:

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There should not be a license fee, the BBC should be by subscription, like others. You want their service you pay, if you don't and want to watch other services then you don't pay. Simple.

100% agree.

TV is NOT an essential service. Taxes should not be used for trivialities.

[marshalla]

Murph7355 said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

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There should not be a license fee, the BBC should be by subscription, like others. You want their service you pay, if you don't and want to watch other services then you don't pay. Simple.

100% agree.

TV is NOT an essential service. Taxes should not be used for trivialities.

Nobody forces you to have a TV - and you are only required to pay the "tax" if you have a TV which receives.

Without the licence fee, we'd descend to a point where every programme was created by Simon Cowell, because those are the ones the advertisers will pay for.