Huge mistake Nokia

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130R

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6,810 posts

206 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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So Nokia are going to use Windows OS for their smartphones and basically dump Symbian. WTF are they thinking going with Windows? (over say, Android) "We're doing really badly, lets team up with someone else who's also doing really badly"? Two turkeys don't make an eagle.

The Nur

9,168 posts

185 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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After the farce that was my N86 (replaced on warranty 10 times) I am never using Nokia again. HTC all the way

fk Windows Mobile as well.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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130R said:
WTF are they thinking going with Windows? (over say, Android)
I suppose because that's already a pretty crowded market.

Ray Singh

3,048 posts

230 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Nokia is a hardware company once again. Back to its roots, in paper and tyres.

Its a sad day - and i actually work there.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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I don't understand why people just don't buy iPhones....

The Nur

9,168 posts

185 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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PSBuckshot said:
I don't understand why people just don't buy iPhones....
Can - Worms - Opened

(It's because they're st - getmecoat)

Mr Will

13,719 posts

206 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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I'd guess there is a little more to this decision than meets the eye.

I believe Windows Phone 7 is not doing as well as Microsoft hoped, so they were likely very keen to get a large partner on board who is not already heavily invested into the Android ecosystem and are licensing the OS to Nokia extremely cheaply (if not completely FOC).

Whether the combination of the two brands is enough to give them the jump-start that they both need or not remains to be seen, but I'd say that it stands a chance if Nokia still has the enough residual brand loyalty and can get out a few decent handsets in the very near future.

130R

Original Poster:

6,810 posts

206 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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PSBuckshot said:
I don't understand why people just don't buy iPhones....
Must ... not ... bite ..

130R

Original Poster:

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206 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Mr Will said:
I believe Windows Phone 7 is not doing as well as Microsoft hoped, so they were likely very keen to get a large partner on board
Oh I think from Microsoft's perspective it is a brilliant deal

amare32

2,417 posts

223 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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iPhone sh!t in what way? Out of iOS, Android and Windows 7, iOS seems to have the most responsive UI with Windows in 2nd and Android last - seems really jerky in comparison. Yes even on the HTC HD. Don't own any of the phones so unbiased.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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PSBuckshot said:
I don't understand why people just don't buy iPhones....
....same reason we're not all driving around in Ferraris. Can't afford the damn thing.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

206 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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amare32 said:
iPhone sh!t in what way? Out of iOS, Android and Windows 7, iOS seems to have the most responsive UI with Windows in 2nd and Android last - seems really jerky in comparison. Yes even on the HTC HD. Don't own any of the phones so unbiased.
iPhone vs Android vs WinMo has been done to death on other threads. Let's keep this one on topic.

theboyfold

10,917 posts

226 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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I think it's quite an interesting move. Allow Nokia to focus on the hardware and Windows, will in time get a lot better I think. I've read lots of good things about it.

If you think of WM7 as Windows mobile V1, I think they have done a lot in a short space of time. Not a game changer like iOS was, but I think it will start to make it's mark in certain sectors.

Davi

17,153 posts

220 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Munter said:
....same reason we're not all driving around in Ferraris. they are st
Fixed that for you.

I have an iPhone. the second I'm out of contract I will dance a jig on it with a maniacal expression on my face, absolute piece of crap.

Carfolio

1,124 posts

181 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Nokia CEO is ex-Microsoft man. Explains it all really.

MrTom

868 posts

203 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Nokia can't differentiate there product from others under android. Plus Nokia is a service company (Ovi maps, store, mail etc), no longer just hardware.
I personally walked away from Nokia because the handset would fall apart after 12 months, it would take 6 months for a usable firmware to come out.
What made Nokia great was the tech spec of there phones, always leading the market in that respect at a price that was affordable to most.

spitfire-ian

3,837 posts

228 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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It seems that Nokia are willing to try anything at the moment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12403466

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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amare32 said:
iPhone sh!t in what way? Out of iOS, Android and Windows 7, iOS seems to have the most responsive UI with Windows in 2nd and Android last - seems really jerky in comparison. Yes even on the HTC HD. Don't own any of the phones so unbiased.
It also has the most basic/bland/unimaginitive UI ever designed.

This is a big win for Microsoft, but a lousy move for Nokia.

I've just got back in touch with a mate from years back. He's a PM at Nokia. It'll be interesting to get his view of things over a few pints next week.

All Nokia needed to do was focus their efforts on getting the UI enhanced on Symbian. They've shown glimpses of what they could have done (the recent Nokia Bubbles being a good example), but their idiotic corporate structure and in-fighting have practically killed them off.

Still, the N8 sat in front of me is a good phone, so as long as it keeps working I'll be happy.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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theboyfold said:
I think it's quite an interesting move. Allow Nokia to focus on the hardware and Windows, will in time get a lot better I think. I've read lots of good things about it.
How long do we give them though? Windows mobile has been around for many, many years.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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PS: No more iPhone posts. I have one, and am not posting about it, it's been done enough elsewhere.