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frontbum

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45 months

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Sounds good, I hope they don't cripple the performance with their rubbish filesystem on this one.

Teppic

4,478 posts

143 months

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AyBee said:
Is there any news with what HTC might bring out?
Incredible S, Desire S and wildfire S have all been announced.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-refreshes-a...

HTC Salsa and Chacha

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-salsa-and-c...

Tycho

8,465 posts

159 months

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Daz68 said:
Tycho said:
Mr Will said:
Probably to stop it feeling like a very big phone in light of the dimensions required to house a screen that big. It's still got a large total volume to house batteries etc and the Super-AMOLED screen is significantly thinner than a conventional LCD.

Definitely an very interesting bit of kit, wish I didn't have over a year to go on my contract!
I have about 3 months left on my contract and choosing the next phone is becoming more difficult with this phone, LG Optimus x2 and 3D along with the Motorola Atrix etc all coming out soon.
Am in the same situation, but then i thought what is wrong with my Desire that i need to upgrade to? It's a perfect phone for me and
thought there is no point in keeping up with the Joneses. I really cant see what can be better than this phone.
I think that phones will be a evolution rather than a revolution that the iPhone started. 3D cameras, HD video and webtop functionality will be added along with speed increases and storage/connectivity options will come to more phones so maybe the manufacturer and physical styling will be more important than the spec which will be pretty much the same.

I have looked at a review of the Motorola Atrix and I'm really disappointed as they have locked the bootloader so custom roms can't be easily installed. The Milestone I have is the same and you have to wait for the official updates before the rom makers can get working due to having to use the official signed kernels etc. The LG Optimus x2 and 3D look interesting.

hman

5,794 posts

80 months

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Mrs Trackside said:
REally? I've got the Galaxy S and can honestly say it's the best phone I've ever owned.
+1 on that, and everytime an iphone comes out in retaliation to my claims of its greatness I beat it hands down.

okgo

23,312 posts

84 months

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Surprised they bothered with the poor sales of the first one.
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Dogsey

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116 months

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ZesPak said:
JD said:
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and no, I don't own a Galaxy S, I'm not sure how that is relevant?
JD said:
also it's a samsung, great on paper, but rubbish to own!
You made that statement based on:
1) "internet rumours": Really? Based on that, you can't even make a phonecall with the iPhone 4
2) Personal experience with Samsung: Ok, what phone? A comparable high-end phone (like the Galaxy S) or some of the £70 phones they chuck out


I've had a couple of cheap samsungs and most of them were good value for money, I know some people with a Galaxy S who have been very happy with them, although their wide range of phones does work in both directions:

1) Galaxy S is a top model and does very good for the entire range and image, much like for example the Mercedes SLS
2) The lower ranges could have some turds in them, which might put people off the higher ranges (for example the Mercedes A)

That said, making a statement like that (like it's a general truth) is pretty bold, esp about a phone that isn't even out yet.
My personal experience:

I bought a Desire back in the summer and love it. Autumn comes around and SWMBO's phone is due an upgrade, having played with mine a bit she quite fancies an Android phone so goes off to have a look at what's available. Eventually she decides to get a Galaxy S over the Desire as she prefers the feel of it. So by now I've spent quite a lot of time playing with both and my honest and frank opinion is that compared to the Desire the Galaxy S is more useful as a doorwedge. It's slower, less responsive, less easy to use due to it's lack of buttons and feels cheaper. About the only plus points are that the screen is good, although only about as good as the Desire, and the camera is definitely better than the Desire. Mind you even with all those bad points I think it's still better than any of the iPhone 3's that I've played with. It's just that the Desire is easily the equal of the iPhone 4.

Would I go anywhere near the Galaxy S II? Based on my experiences so far, not while there is still breath in my body.

Edited by Dogsey on Tuesday 15th February 12:15

ZesPak

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okgo said:
Surprised they bothered with the poor sales of the first one.
I understood that, with all the versions combined, it was actually a success for such a high-end phone?
Any numbers to show for?

The sources I've found is that they sold about half the volume of the iPhone 4 (not counting the Nexus S). So not a bad feat imho.
It also outsold the iPhone in South Korea, while the iPhone thrives in North America (Their countries)

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

112 months

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Teppic said:
Oh dear god, phones with Facebook buttons. We truly are in the end times.

Mr Will

12,725 posts

92 months

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CommanderJameson said:
Oh dear god, phones with Facebook buttons. We truly are in the end times.
Oh noes, a phone with a button that acts as a short-cut to a communication technology. How will we cope.

okgo

23,312 posts

84 months

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ZesPak said:
I understood that, with all the versions combined, it was actually a success for such a high-end phone?
Any numbers to show for?

The sources I've found is that they sold about half the volume of the iPhone 4 (not counting the Nexus S). So not a bad feat imho.
It also outsold the iPhone in South Korea, while the iPhone thrives in North America (Their countries)
Well I guess the guy I was talking to only looks after the UK aspect of it.

ZesPak

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Mr Will said:
CommanderJameson said:
Oh dear god, phones with Facebook buttons. We truly are in the end times.
Oh noes, a phone with a button that acts as a short-cut to a communication technology. How will we cope.
hehe

Maybe he's a touchscreen-kinda-guy, as it can really bring out the blue in the FB logo.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

112 months

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ZesPak said:
hehe

Maybe he's a touchscreen-kinda-guy, as it can really bring out the blue in the FB logo.
You can bugger off if you think that your smooth talkin' can get you a touch of my screen.

arun1uk

783 posts

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Dogsey said:
My personal experience:

So by now I've spent quite a lot of time playing with both and my honest and frank opinion is that compared to the Desire the Galaxy S is more useful as a doorwedge.
I'm in the market for a new door wedge and was wondering how this compares to the standard plastic wedge?

So on what assumptions are you basing your analysis on? Is it the quadrant "benchmarking" tests or simlpy your observations? Could you explain exactly how it the Desire is better? Is it merely perception?

I'm genuinely interested as I have a Galaxy S and the only problem I have had is with the GPS...It's due for renewal now and I'm considering the Galaxy S 2 as it's replacement, along with whatever HTC come out with.

Mrs Trackside

9,299 posts

119 months

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arun1uk said:
I have a Galaxy S and the only problem I have had is with the GPS...
Same here. The GPS was shocking when I first got the phone, but two software upgrades later, there's no problems with it at all.


Mr Will

12,725 posts

92 months

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arun1uk said:
I'm in the market for a new door wedge and was wondering how this compares to the standard plastic wedge?

So on what assumptions are you basing your analysis on? Is it the quadrant "benchmarking" tests or simlpy your observations? Could you explain exactly how it the Desire is better? Is it merely perception?

I'm genuinely interested as I have a Galaxy S and the only problem I have had is with the GPS...It's due for renewal now and I'm considering the Galaxy S 2 as it's replacement, along with whatever HTC come out with.
I have little experience of the Galaxy S, but as far as I am aware it's mainly down to Touchwiz vs HTC Sense, with HTC Sense tending to run more quickly and smoothly irrespective of hardware. Put vanilla Android on both and the Galaxy S is the faster of the two.

ZesPak

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14,137 posts

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CommanderJameson said:
You can bugger off if you think that your smooth talkin' can get you a touch of my screen.
hehe

I agree that the button is daft though, but I can imagine that the twitter/facebook icons are amongst the first shortcuts of a lot of smartphones, so a smartphone with a physical FB button is just the next step.

Would never want it though, but it's not as daft as a "facebook phone".

Mr Will

12,725 posts

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ZesPak said:
I agree that the button is daft though
Having read a little about it, it's not quite as daft as it first sounds. It doesn't just launch the facebook app, it is context sensitive and it's action depends on what you are looking at on your phone. For example, when you are looking at a picture, pressing it will share the picture on facebook. When you are looking at a contact, pressing it will take you to their profile, etc.

ZesPak

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Mr Will said:
ZesPak said:
I agree that the button is daft though
Having read a little about it, it's not quite as daft as it first sounds. It doesn't just launch the facebook app, it is context sensitive and it's action depends on what you are looking at on your phone. For example, when you are looking at a picture, pressing it will share the picture on facebook. When you are looking at a contact, pressing it will take you to their profile, etc.
Wooow.

Nope, sorry, still think it's daft hehe, not because of the functionality, but because of the "focus" -> it assumes you are on Facebook and you want to use it quite often (all the time). On top of that, there is no "dial button". But there is a FB button? That's daft to me smile

arun1uk

783 posts

84 months

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Mr Will said:
I have little experience of the Galaxy S, but as far as I am aware it's mainly down to Touchwiz vs HTC Sense, with HTC Sense tending to run more quickly and smoothly irrespective of hardware. Put vanilla Android on both and the Galaxy S is the faster of the two.
Cheers Mr Will, but again, that's not very quantitative, it's qualitative. I use my phone every day and I just don't have any lag, jerkiness (actually, I did have a problem before, but since updating to Froyo it's gone), or problems with the TouchWiz interface.

I'm just trying to work out how it is slower. Maybe it's something I havent noticed, but if pointed out, I might notice and realise it's crap. or a door wedge!

Also what does HTC have coming up that will match/better the Galaxy S 2?

Tiggsy

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138 months

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G S is not slow - i have an IP4 as well and they are the same for web browsing, app switching etc.
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